Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[PositiveCashFlow]

Imagine blaming bowman for this.

I intially did but if Elliot is saying we extended an offer to Bro and he didn’t take it it’s now more of a matter of Bro taking an extra mill rather than one mor kick at the cup

 

[Broberg Speed]

Neither player is essential but Holloway will likely be the priority.

Take the 2nd and the 4M in cap space and move on.

No, a spot just opened for Matt Savoie.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Don't see the issue here.

This magic bean should be relatively easy to flip into a player who right now today is better than Broberg.

That's certainly the hope but by no means a guarantee.

 

[McGreat One]

I don't blame Broberg for signing this offer sheet and I won't blame Bowman for walking away from it. It's just too much money and that's the reality of it all.

I don't get this from Holloway's perspective though. Sure, he may have to play in the bottom 6 this year but he have a real good chance of winning a cup this season and also have a real good chance of playing on a line with either McDavid or Drai as early as next year. In fact Holloway signing this offer sheet may even hurt his chances of making more money in the long run because you can bet there's no one in St. Louis that can drive up his production as much as the 2 superstars in Edmonton.

One thing I'm curious about is if it's possible to either match the offer sheet for Broberg then trade him for another Dman, on a team with plenty of cap, who could play in the NHL this season. Or even trade him before the deadline to match the offer and let the other team match it instead. In both scenarios we should receive more than just a 2nd in the deal. Unless there's a rule against it I'd say match the Holloway offer and say f*ck Broberg and St. Louis and trade him to a shit team with plenty of cap.

Edit: I since learned that you cannot trade a player for at least 1 year after matching an offer sheet. But my 2nd option still stands. Trade him now and let another team match.

 

[Arpeggio]

I intially did but if Elliot is saying we extended an offer to Bro and he didn’t take it it’s now more of a matter of Bro taking an extra mill rather than one mor kick at the cup

Extra mill? This was probably an extra 6-7 million. I bet the Oilers offer was under 2 million per season.

 

[McJadeddog]

I’d let Broberg go, play Stecher in his spot, and hope we can get a good one at the deadline. Again our second line wingers and our entire third line didn’t take less money just to watch it be given to Broberg

Exactly. Let Broberg walk, maybe match Holloway, but I likely wouldn't do that either actually. Play Stetcher as RHD for most of the regular season, and pick somebody up at the deadline for the playoff run to replace Stetcher. The team doesn't need Broberg this year. Where this hurts is in 2026+ really.

I liked both players, but cup contending teams against the cap lose players, its just what happens. I would have preferred to have traded them though, because the return would have been better than what we are going to get in picks for certain. That is my only real problem with this honestly.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Blues got any juicy rfas next season? Haha

 

[K1984]

Any negative news about the Oil sure does bring some "fans" out of the woodwork. Holy hell I'm reading some takes on here today.

It's unbelievable how the immediate reaction from many is "WHO CAN WE BLAME FOR THIS AND HOW CAN I MAKE IT THE PARTICULAR PERSON I LIKE THE LEAST!"

People need to calm down. Blues made a shrewd move, but there are some thing the Oilers can do to make it work. Let's see what happens.

 

[Johnny McBravo]

Yeah thats steep for Broberg but we cant just let him walk for a second. His trajectory is finally on track, we need him in the system.

 

[Fourier]

There is no lemonade here. All outcomes are bad truthfully. You walk away from them both, and look to other options.

I don't really disagree. But the lemonade may well be how he uses the assets in the future.

 

[ujju2]

So much for jeff Jackson super off season. Really dropped the ball on this one. No way can we match the broberg deal. Can't throw 4 Mill at a guy in hoping he earns it when you're cap strapped

Not really. If there's no way we can match it then there's nothing we could have done short of trading the player earlier, which wasn't going to happen. Agents aren't idiots, I'm positive the player and agent knew this might be coming and wouldn't have accepted anything less from us.

 

[Stoneman89]

I like the Oilers. This is a major problem with Broberg. St.Louis did the Oilers dirty here. Teams will know Oilers are desperate to move Ceci to make the cap work in order to match on Broberg. Hence the Oilers being slightly bent over here. Bowman has work to do. That Nurse contract is a killer right now,

Agreed. The Blues can go f*** themselves. Ridiculous offer to Broberg, and I hope it comes back to bite them. Never liked them in the first place, and this just makes my dislike stronger. Going to be tough for Bowman, but clearly, the players agents were holding out. Not going to blame Jackson at (or Bowman) at all at this point.

I think they are weakest on defence by far, so I think you have to bite the bullet and match Broberg for sure. Too bad we have a 9 million plus dman that still has to be babysat. And that portion of the Campbell buyout would sure be helpful right about now.

 

[dustrock]

Don't forget Broberg already asked out and Holland couldn't find the right trade.

I don't want a guy who doesn't want to be around a team that was 1 game from winning the Cup. Hard pass.

 

[sepHF]

4.5 for Broberg? Jesus christ thats crazy

 

[Fourier]

Well it does if its a sign that players don’t want to play under Bowman. It probably is more money related though. But we won’t likely know. Broberg probably doesn’t mind a fresh start though.

I am not sure how much I blame JJ/Bowman for not signing these guys earlier though. Which UFA would of people sacrificed to sign them? Skinner, Henrique, Arvidsson?

In reality we probably needed to move Kane and/or Nurse. But that’s very difficult.

Oilers are in a bad spot here. Neither guy is really worth those deals.

This is a money issue almost for sure. Neither player was going to get close to that amount anytime soon. The offers also set the next QO's which could either be a big win or a problem for the player.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Yeah thats steep for Broberg but we cant just let him walk for a second. His trajectory is finally on track, we need him in the system.

Which two NHLers are you dumping to keep Broberg?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

haha, 110%. But the million dollar question is: are you confident enough in Broberg's ability to do that to trade Ceci to make the cap space?

That is a MASSIVE bet on Broberg, and one that simply has to work out or you are boned. You at least know what you have in Ceci. It's a tough call, and I think I'd let Broberg walk myself, but its not an obvious decision I don't think.

Here are the current D that signed about the same contract as UFAs:
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Just to give an idea of what type of player you get in UFA season for Broberg's money.

This is f***ing absurd, I know you're partly shit posting, but come on even you don't believe the Ceci v. Broberg nonsense. Broberg has a good chance to be better than Nurse this season, he's already much better than Ceci.

 

[ujju2]

Those of you smarter than myself on these matters, we don't have to be cap-compliant in the offseason to match, do we? In other words, could we match on Broberg and then trade him elsewhere for more than a 2nd?

 

[Frank the Tank]

Wonder if Holland shared the worse case scenario (contract wise for these 2 players) with his buddy Armstrong on his way of being escorted out the door.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I intially did but if Elliot is saying we extended an offer to Bro and he didn’t take it it’s now more of a matter of Bro taking an extra mill rather than one mor kick at the cup

Unless we know what the offer was to Broberg, its all just talk. If Broberg was being offered a 1 year deal below 2M, I don't care if he loses his cup chance, I fully understand taking the guaranteed 9M.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Not sure we can have these guys around when others are taking less to win.

Let them go to St Louis and lose while we contend.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Those of you smarter than myself on these matters, we don't have to be cap-compliant in the offseason to match, do we? In other words, could we match on Broberg and then trade him elsewhere for more than a 2nd?

Can't trade Broberg if you sign him.

 

[oXo Cube]

Exactly. Let Broberg walk, maybe match Holloway, but I likely wouldn't do that either actually. Play Stetcher as RHD for most of the regular season, and pick somebody up at the deadline for the playoff run to replace Stetcher. The team doesn't need Broberg this year. Where this hurts is in 2026+ really.

I liked both players, but cup contending teams against the cap lose players, its just what happens. I would have preferred to have traded them though, because the return would have been better than what we are going to get in picks for certain. That is my only real problem with this honestly.

Would it? We're getting a 2nd round pick from a team that's most likely going to miss the playoffs for a player who is 5 years post draft and has no track record of being a consistent NHL player. I'd actually argue the return pick is on the higher end of what his expected trade value would be.

It is becoming quite clear from reading this thread that I am not on the same page as most of you in regards to Philip Broberg.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Those of you smarter than myself on these matters, we don't have to be cap-compliant in the offseason to match, do we? In other words, could we match on Broberg and then trade him elsewhere for more than a 2nd?

If you match the offer sheet you can't trade him for a calendar year.

 

[KCC]

Tough to wake up to this but edm just can’t match it. Maybe bowman can work some magic but if not, for sure broberg is gone. sucks. Edm have next no one ready to take that next step, and they might lose both of them. Lol.