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majormajor said:
That's a bit of a stretch. Gagner hasn't hit .5PPG since 2017, and Perry has done it once or twice since then.
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Why doesn't this year (i.e. the one that we're discussing) count? Gagner is .45 PPG and Perry is .53 this season. Seems like the poster's statement that they are both "around half a point per game players" is reasonable.
 
majormajor said:
Kane and Foegele are in the top six forward scorers. After that it's McLeod (good). Then the 8th, 9th, and 10th scorers all have ten points or less.

That is relatively low. A team with good depth scoring will have a couple third liners (ranks 7, 8, 9) with 20 or so points at this point in the season (examples: Vancouver, Winnipeg, Detroit, Columbus). Average depth scoring team will have guys in those ranks with 15+ points. There are some contenders like the Avs and Bolts that have comparably weak depth scoring to the Oilers, but they'll fix that at the deadline. The Oilers have to as well.
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Key underperformances of Janmark, Ryan and Brown have driven this result. Janmark and Ryan combined for 23 goals last year, and currently have 5 combined this year. Whether those are long-term realities or short-term struggles, I can't say and neither can you. I can tell you that Gagner and his 20 goal pace (lol) have come out of the roster because those three guys are key to a PK that has been tops in the league since mid-November. Which highlights that a bottom-six that doesn't score might still be helping win games.

Also: Perry, Holloway in. Hamblin, Erne out. They're already doin' it.
 
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12ozPapa said:
Again, how is simply stating that the Oilers will not win the Cup “crying”?
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You keep posting that because you are having a little fit about the Oilers 16 game win streak that has only been done a few times in NHL history.
 
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12ozPapa said:
I think they won’t win with that core because they lack good defense and obviously goaltending has been an issue. Furthermore, I don’t think the top offensive players have the level of compete to win a Cup.
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This has to be a skit, right? Or are you just purposefuly trying to be wilfully ignorant in order to profess your Oilers derangement syndrome?

The Oilers have been one of the best defensive teams in the league since Knoblauch was hired. +47 goal differential (1st), 2.32 GA (2nd), 89% PK (1st). Skinner has a 1.41 GAA and .950 save percentage over his last 12 games. Overall, even accounting for the historically bad start to the season, the Oilers rank 5th in total goal differential, 8th in GA and 5th on the PK.

McDavid and Draisaitl don't have the "compete" to win a cup? If you were talking about Matthews and Marner, I'd say you make a valid point but this is yet another example of your ignorance after the formers' historic performances the past two post-seasons where they were let down by secondary scoring disappearing, poor defense and pathetic goaltending. This last point is completely divorced from reality and makes it obvious your opinion is formed by grievance instead of any semblance of logic.
 
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12ozPapa said:
I think they won’t win with that core because they lack good defense and obviously goaltending has been an issue. Furthermore, I don’t think the top offensive players have the level of compete to win a Cup.
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Thank you writing up an actual post, if a bit lacking in detail.

Now, since appointing Kris Knoblauch and Paul Coffey the Oilers have the following defensive numbers on the year:

3rd in CA/60
3rd in FA/60
4th in SA/60
4th in GA/60
9th in xGA/60
9th in SCA/60
8th in HDCA/60
9th in HDGA/60

And if I were to include the offensive numbers to counterbalance those defensive numbers, the picture does not improve at all for your position.

As for goaltending they are 6th in SV% in the same span.

As for competitiveness I would say players like McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse, Ekholm and Hyman are about as competitive as you'd get.

Will they win the cup? There are a lot of good teams so betting against ANY tram is a relatively safe bet. It just seems you base a high level of certainty on hunches and hearsay.

Let's just say I hope you don't give financial advice for a living.
 
mkatcherin00 said:
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The SOS thing at least partially comes down to how good a team has played. Like the 5 teams with the hardest records so far (SJ, CHI, MIN, OTT, ANA) are all pretty bad teams. Hence they lose more often, there opponents get more points. Vice versa for the 5 teams with the easiest schedules (VAN, COL, BOS, EDM, WASH).
 
TheNumber4 said:
Good thing Skinner already out dueled Helly once this year. Should be a good matchup.
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As long as EDM's goaltending can hold up when it matters they have a very very good shot at the cup. Especially with how they play now. But it all comes down to can Skinner and Pickard (assuming he's around after the deadline) and if they can make those key saves. Just like they've been doing now.
 
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KCC said:
As long as EDM's goaltending can hold up when it matters they have a very very good shot at the cup. Especially with how they play now. But it all comes down to can Skinner and Pickard (assuming he's around after the deadline) and if they can make those key saves. Just like they've been doing now.
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They need a guy they can trust to fill in for a game here and there. And a coach that is willing to do so. Not sure if they feel Pickard is the guy or not. I feel bringing Campbell back is bad juju this season.
 
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