Tawnos
A guy with a bass
If it's the former, you don't want him?
No, if it's the latter. After growing up with Patrick Roy (i was in elementary school in the early 90s), hearing Derek Roy's name never sat right with me.
Speculation: Offseason Thread XVII: Trade a spade for a jade
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No, if it's the latter. After growing up with Patrick Roy (i was in elementary school in the early 90s), hearing Derek Roy's name never sat right with me.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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I know three team trades NEVER happen, but a trade between us, Anaheim, and Winnipeg makes a lot of sense. Anaheim needs top-6 wingers. We have that. Winnipeg needs LHD. Anaheim has that. We need RHD. Winnipeg has that.
I just don't know what pieces would be going, exactly.
I just don't know what pieces would be going, exactly.
Killem Dafoe
Hold my baby, man.
Yes. He's been vetted as of a few days ago. Dagoon is also vetted.
Someone mentioned a list of vetted posters and I think that's a good idea. We'll see if we can get something up for you guys.
GeorgeKaplan
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I'd have think the base for that deal would involve Miller, Fowler, and Trouba, with us probably adding the next biggest piece somewhere
Ghost of jas
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I think the Rangers are more likely to include Zucc or Nash. I don't see Miller being involved.
GeorgeKaplan
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Ghost of jas
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Irishguy42
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Killem Dafoe
Hold my baby, man.
Pop it in the rules thread for us
Working on it now. Should be up at some point soon. I agree, a list would make things a lot easier for everyone.
The Ducks have $7.5M in cap space with Lindholm and Rakell still to sign. You'd have to think that Lindholm will get at least what Jones and Rielly got, which is in the neighborhood of $5-5.5M per year. He's a better player so maybe he could even get a bit more on a long-term deal.
That leaves less than $2M for Rakell who is coming off a 20+23 season because they have to have some space to operate the team. With both signed, they'd have 12F, 8D, and 2G with very little space left to operate the team. I can't see them wanting to take additional cap back in any trade. If anything they'll probably sell a little cheaper on Fowler in order to get some cap space. Zucc or Nash makes no sense for them.
I wouldn't deal Miller for Fowler unless we were getting another piece, and I'm not sure if Fowler has enough value to turn around and flip him for a guy like Trouba.
That leaves less than $2M for Rakell who is coming off a 20+23 season because they have to have some space to operate the team. With both signed, they'd have 12F, 8D, and 2G with very little space left to operate the team. I can't see them wanting to take additional cap back in any trade. If anything they'll probably sell a little cheaper on Fowler in order to get some cap space. Zucc or Nash makes no sense for them.
I wouldn't deal Miller for Fowler unless we were getting another piece, and I'm not sure if Fowler has enough value to turn around and flip him for a guy like Trouba.
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
Remember seeing a tweet the other day with this scenario, which is highly unlikely, but still funny:
If Gorton really wanted the Ducks to hate him -> Offersheet one of Rakell/Lindholm, forcing the Ducks to either overpay on a longterm deal, or risk them signing an offersheet with the Rangers. And then once the Ducks then sign them and don't have room for the other, Gorton than offersheets the second RFA.
If Gorton really wanted the Ducks to hate him -> Offersheet one of Rakell/Lindholm, forcing the Ducks to either overpay on a longterm deal, or risk them signing an offersheet with the Rangers. And then once the Ducks then sign them and don't have room for the other, Gorton than offersheets the second RFA.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Getting that list would be great. As would, if possible, some kind of ranking or system of understanding what LEVEL of sources folks have. Or at the very least what the cutoff is to have an "approved" source. I mean, if we have a poster who's Gorton's brother, that's waaay different from a poster who exchanges Christmas cards with Duguay - ya know?
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Totally understood and agreed. I have a potential source myself whom I've NEVER pressed for info, and if this person ever shared anything with me unsolicited I would want this person protected. But it is very frustrating that there are so many who share "info" but we have no idea how close to the source/reliable it is. Especially when we have certain vetted posters who seem (emphasis on seem) to only come here and share info that has already been rumored... miss 9 out of 10 times... and then when they get the one right come and pound their chests... despite the fact that it's something that Dreger or McKenzie (or bobbop) ALREADY shared. Really gets my goat.
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Draft Guru
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San Jose has less than a million in cap space. Your proposed deal has them adding upwards of $5-8M.
They're not trading a major piece (which would be required to make the salary work) for Nash.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
Seems like a double-edged sword to me. I think that would be something the mods and our vetted posters would have to talk about.
I also think there just needs to be a general understanding to newcomers and whatnot that the vetted sources on the board are just relaying info they heard, which may or may not end up being correct.
Also....hmmmmmmm...I think this might be getting OT.
Killem Dafoe
Hold my baby, man.
We can't share exactly where they get their information, but at least having a list to work with will help a lot. If people are vetted, their sources are legit.
Exactly. It's because of this that we won't share who their sources are, but anyone who has inside info is urged to try and get vetted. Your sources will remain anonymous and we get to enjoy the information.
If anyone has inside info and doesn't want to get vetted because they don't want to put forward who their sources are, we completely understand, but rules are rules and they wouldn't be able to post rumors or rumblings.
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
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Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
We can't share exactly where they get their information, but at least having a list to work with will help a lot. If people are vetted, their sources are legit.
Exactly. It's because of this that we won't share who their sources are, but anyone who has inside info is urged to try and get vetted. Your sources will remain anonymous and we get to enjoy the information.
If anyone has inside info and doesn't want to get vetted because they don't want to put forward who their sources are, we completely understand, but rules are rules and they wouldn't be able to post rumors or rumblings.
Bingo. The only thing that people on this board will see is a list of vetted users who can be trusted because they have sources.
No list of who their sources are. Just a list of users who can be trusted. Just so we don't have people questioning all the time.
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Can be as simple as:
Mod-approved vetted HFNYR users with sources
- Bobbop
- Dagoon
- etc...
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Irishguy42
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