SettlementRichie10
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Offseason GDT III
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WHOneedsSOX
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Not if Lucic agrees to a deal with someone else. Unless Lucic agreed to bring that deal back to Dean.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
If everyone had their way, who actually makes up our bottom six? Lots of people seem to want King, Shore, Lewis, Clifford, Nolan gone.
I actually think this team is going to surprise (this board) next year. Positively, I mean.
You would think this is a ****ing lottery team the way this thread is going.
I actually think this team is going to surprise (this board) next year. Positively, I mean.
You would think this is a ****ing lottery team the way this thread is going.
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ScoreZeGoals
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Not unless Kopi, Doughty, or Quick go down. The big three is too good for us to suck
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Add Carter to that list. Kopitar, Carter, Doughty, Quick. Everyone else is replaceable.
Ziggy Stardust
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Don't worry guys, Dustin Brown will lead the Kings....
... in shots on goal...
... and have the lowest shooting percentage on the team.
... in shots on goal...
... and have the lowest shooting percentage on the team.
ScoreZeGoals
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Mersch Dowd Kempe/Brown
Andreoff Shore Nolan
???/Auger
I wanted two of King/Nolan/Clifford traded for picks.
Probably won't happen now with Lucic gone.
LA was fine without King most of last year.
Clifford is loved by management but has had too many concussions already.
Andreoff Shore Nolan
???/Auger
I wanted two of King/Nolan/Clifford traded for picks.
Probably won't happen now with Lucic gone.
LA was fine without King most of last year.
Clifford is loved by management but has had too many concussions already.
Don't worry, Lombardi isn't going to sit around and settle for a fringe team. I think it's pretty clear that DL has a new direction at this point (conference call). If anything Lombardi has shown he will make the move to go for it all. He has a short time to turn it around.
Hold on to your butts because I think we're going to be in for a bit of a ride!
It's a solid gamble, but with Benning out there... who's to say he won't do a 7X7.
If the Kings can pull it off there's a really good RHD at the top of next years draft. Just saying.
Matt13
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All the power to him if he does. However, I am just thinking of Looch saying he wants to stay in LA. If the best he can get is 5x5, he will know his market. Or if the best he gets is 6mil x 5, and he wants to stay in LA, would he then be willing to say the LA deal isnt so bad and sign it after all?
Its just thought on my part. I am guessing though that Looch is as good as gone, but Dean did do something here that I have never seen another GM, and there is reasoning for it.
WHOneedsSOX
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I'm not even sure it's about his market value. If it takes the Kings 2-3 years to get this thing turned around is it worth having Lucic on the tail end of a long contract or with 1 year left when the next window opens? He just may not fit the Kings window.
A similar argument could be made for Yandle at 30. Does he fit the Kings next window? Are the Kings better off going with youth at this point?
kingsboy11
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I really only want Nolan gone. But I won't lose any sleep if King is traded. I'd prefer to keep Lewis, but only if he doesn't over price himself. If he wants more than 3 million per year then forget it.
I believe so but what do I know? Kopitar, Doughty, Quick, Carter are the perfect teachers. theyve been through it all and know what it takes to win
BigKing
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Been saying that all along: this team still makes the playoffs last season with Williams instead of Lucic. Lucic is the better player but he cost a lot of assets and is now gone for nothing.
Only drawback would be having Williams on the hook for this season, although him at $3.5MM or whatever and the current state of the forward corp sans Lucic isn't really a problem.
They most likely wind up in the same spot: first round exit. It is just so much easier to make this call in hindsight.
As a season seat holder, I was excited for Lucic for entertainment purposes. Really bummed that we got contract year, soft Lucic instead of the animal. All I got was one playoff win and barely any fights or ass-kicking moments at Staples. Now he'll go to a rival, get his retirement contract and have no problem crushing Kings for the next several years.
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We have seen Lucic's play change over the last couple of years. I would not want to sign him to a long term contract. He nor Yandle.
This is just not true. Williams and Brown are no longer top 6 forwards. Having both on the team last year would have been disastrous.
People are confusing the Williams that was with the the Williams that is.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
The Kings don't make the playoffs with Williams vs. Lucic?
Are you kidding me? This was hilariously awful when someone mentioned it late in the year, and it's still awful.
The Kings were 24, let me say that again TWENTY FOUR points into a playoff spot last year. You really think Lucic made a 24 point difference in the Kings place in the standings?
Quite possibly the most ridiculous thing since people were trying to say Smyth made Kopitar into a Selke candidate.
Again, not saying Lucic was bad by any stretch, but 24 points is 12 wins. Very very few players any probably no one in the NHL is worth 12 more wins than Williams would have been, and Lucic ain't in that group.
Are you kidding me? This was hilariously awful when someone mentioned it late in the year, and it's still awful.
The Kings were 24, let me say that again TWENTY FOUR points into a playoff spot last year. You really think Lucic made a 24 point difference in the Kings place in the standings?
Quite possibly the most ridiculous thing since people were trying to say Smyth made Kopitar into a Selke candidate.
Again, not saying Lucic was bad by any stretch, but 24 points is 12 wins. Very very few players any probably no one in the NHL is worth 12 more wins than Williams would have been, and Lucic ain't in that group.
I was thinking the same thing.
Could've spent 3.5 on JW and we would have had a 1st, Miller and an asset likely acquired for Jones ie another high pick or prospect.
BigKing
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I know what the final numbers were for Williams bad 2015 season and how they aren't terribly far off from Lucic last season while playing with a rejuvenated Kopitar.
Lot of guys were not up to speed in '15...not sure why you have it out for Williams when there were a lot of guys that didn't perform as needed in '15.
'15 team with Williams missed the playoffs by a point with a negative anomaly of an OT/SO record. '16 team earned over 100 points by having a positive anomaly of an OT record in a division that didn't have two teams play well over their respective heads like VAN/CGY in '15.
Kings still make the playoffs with Williams. Only argument to be made is that the '15 team was better due to Regher being on the team instead of the trash trotted out near the end of the season and into the playoffs in '16.
Regardless, keeping Williams would have led to the same amount of Cups as trading for Lucic except the Kings would have valuable assets. It's horrible asset management to trade valuable commodities for a one-season increase of like six goals.
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