Offseason GDT III

[bob77]

I think he could, but as the roster is constructed, they have so many LH D. Obviously, you mention moving one of those aforementioned left shots, only way that makes sense is if they move say Martinez and get back a comparable right shot in terms of ability and money.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Yandle one of these left handed D that always plays the right side.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Yandle one of these left handed D that always plays the right side.

He plays the left side, so it could open up the possibility of having Muzzin and Martinez to be a permanent tandem as they seemed to mesh well together, or Muzzin can pair with Doughty and Martinez with whoever they end up acquiring.

 

[Omni Owl]

I am not overly worried about Lucic.

If he doesn't sign is it poor asset management - yes - but that is in the past. Do we sign him and risk losing Toffoli or Pearson - that would be poorer asset management. Lucic is not a superstar, he is a lunch pail guy who has been slowly regressing and may be the next Clowe, Brown, etc. Yes he has a certain skill and I have always wanted him on the team, but at his age, playing style and contract demands......it scares me.

As for defence I still am wanting to sign Yandle. he is a true offensive star d-man that can run a PP. He is a huge upgrade offensively over Martinez( I love Martinez), but for 2 extra mil a season, he brings a lot that we are missing. A top 3 of Doughty- Yandle, with Muzzin anchoring the 2nd pairing is nasty. Martinez can be traded for everyones precious RHD like Pysyk to help with the 2nd or third pairing. Yandle only costs money, no picks, players, prospects, that helps asset management. We can't afford to spend anymore assets on Hamonic's, Trouba's, etc.

We need skill and speed on the back end and the forward corps. Trading guys like Toffoli and Pearson are just wrong. They are 2/3's of our true top 6 and provide skill.

I know there are people against Yandle, but his signing makes Martinez a great trade asset. He plays enough minutes to play with DD, something we have never really had, and allows Doughty to play his game and not be saddled with being the PP leader.

Well said, and I share the same concerns about Lucic as you do. That style of play wears on the human body, and power forward types rarely stay at that high level of play they once did. Sure there are exceptions, like Doan and Jagr, but those examples are few and far between.

I'm all for going after Yandle, and I think Dean will try to go after him. He'd solidify that top 4 spot nicely.

 

[The Tikkanen]

I think Lucic re-signs for 4-22 some time this week. Then I expect a trade that nobody has talked about with a player coming back that the majority of King fans are happy with to fill that 2-3 dman role. I think the bottom 6 will see some re-structuring with players that have better foot speed and can contribute offensively when forced into an offensive role by Sutter (which he does constantly to my dismay). Anze Kopitar jerseys with the "A" on it go on sale as do the Brown jerseys with the "C". And Mark Psysk is never talked about again in the Kings section of HF, a forgotten man. Stay tuned...

 

[bluesfan3109]

3 Round Mock Redux starts drafting today and still missing an owner for your team...if anyone's interested comment on it or pm me please!!!

 

[Trolfoli]

At this point Lucic signing would surprise me more then not. Lombardi's supposed to be doing his final and best offer in the next day or 2. We'll find out shortly.

Yandle: As unlikely as a Yandle/Doughty pairing is under Sutter, if Doughty has to cover for someone defensively they might as well be better at offense then Scuderi.

 

[Omni Owl]

I think Lucic re-signs for 4-22 some time this week. Then I expect a trade that nobody has talked about with a player coming back that the majority of King fans are happy with to fill that 2-3 dman role. I think the bottom 6 will see some re-structuring with players that have better foot speed and can contribute offensively when forced into an offensive role by Sutter (which he does constantly to my dismay). Anze Kopitar jerseys with the "A" on it go on sale as do the Brown jerseys with the "C". And Mark Psysk is never talked about again in the Kings section of HF, a forgotten man. Stay tuned...

There was just a 4 page thread about Pysyk to the Kings a day or 2 ago, so his name has been thrown around. I just hate the idea of losing Pearson for him. Pearson is more proven and the better player right now, but Pysyk has the potential.

 

[LAKings88]

There was just a 4 page thread about Pysyk to the Kings a day or 2 ago, so he his name has been thrown around. I just hate the idea of losing Pearson for him. Pearson is more proven and the better player right now, but Pysyk has the potential.

Didn't some pundit say the Kings will target a guy who hasn't really been given a top four role but has potential to do so? I don't know much about Pysyk but Buffalo fans seem high on him. Pearson would be a tough loss. The more I think about losing him the more I hope they would get a really good return. I would prefer LA keeps him moving forward.

 

[YP44]

I think Lucic re-signs for 4-22 some time this week. Then I expect a trade that nobody has talked about with a player coming back that the majority of King fans are happy with to fill that 2-3 dman role. I think the bottom 6 will see some re-structuring with players that have better foot speed and can contribute offensively when forced into an offensive role by Sutter (which he does constantly to my dismay). Anze Kopitar jerseys with the "A" on it go on sale as do the Brown jerseys with the "C". And Mark Psysk is never talked about again in the Kings section of HF, a forgotten man. Stay tuned...

I talk about Psysk alot on here..basically have taken it as far as you can on HF boards. Bottom line the Saber's fans on HF boards are high on him and he would command a big return.

 

[Omni Owl]

I'd rather go after Demers or Yandle, at least we wouldn't have to give up any more assets (that we don't have) to fill that top 4 D void.

 

[YP44]

I'd rather go after Demers or Yandle, at least we wouldn't have to give up any more assets (that we don't have) to fill that top 4 D void.

The nice thing abotu Pysyk is he is yougn and if he develops he will help extend our championship window

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

http://lakingsinsider.com/2016/06/20/big-week-ahead-for-kings-lucic/

Last week, a team source acknowledged that talks with Lucic, which appeared to have previously quieted, were “ongoing,” and that resigning the forward was a “priority.”

Whether you’re in the camp that advocates re-signing Lucic or cutting bait, were the Kings to re-sign the power forward, it would allow them flexibility to be able to trade for a young defenseman that could enhance the depth on the back end, based on conversations with team sources. Don’t expect any major news one way or another so early in the week.

If Los Angeles re-signs Lucic, reports will emerge shortly beforehand, followed by an official press release. If the team decides to move on, the realization could come in the form of reports of new contracts to the team’s other UFAs – namely, Trevor Lewis. The Kings will be hard-pressed to sign Lewis in addition to Lucic without getting highly creative, so if L.A. announces a new contract for Lewis, it’s likely an indication that Lucic will be moving on to greener pastures. (There’s a drought here; our pastures are golden-hued.)

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The nice thing abotu Pysyk is he is yougn and if he develops he will help extend our championship window

Pysyk is literally almost exactly a year younger than McNabb, 2 on doughty, 3 on muzzin.

Not at you directly but this is a 'grass is greener' scenario.

Don't understand how on one hand a lot of folks won't show any patience for McNabb but will bring yet another inexperienced d-man with even more question marks.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

"Whether you’re in the camp that advocates re-signing Lucic or cutting bait, were the Kings to re-sign the power forward, it would allow them flexibility to be able to trade for a young defenseman that could enhance the depth on the back end, based on conversations with team sources. Don’t expect any major news one way or another so early in the week."

To me, that's a big acknowledgement if Rosen is posting it. Whoa.

And sad to me that Lewis might get Frolov'ed.

 

[Omni Owl]

How exactly does re-signing Lucic give us any flexibility to trade for a young Dman in this cap environment? It just ties up more money into a LW'er. Unless he's alluding to re-signing and then trading Lucic...

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

"Whether you’re in the camp that advocates re-signing Lucic or cutting bait, were the Kings to re-sign the power forward, it would allow them flexibility to be able to trade for a young defenseman that could enhance the depth on the back end, based on conversations with team sources. Don’t expect any major news one way or another so early in the week."

To me, that's a big acknowledgement if Rosen is posting it. Whoa.

And sad to me that Lewis might get Frolov'ed.

He just clarified that remark.

They're not just signing him as "a means to get someone else instead." I mean, it's Milan Lucic. There's a reason he'll be as expensive as he will be. If they resigned him, they would have a surplus of LWs, as noted above by Cristobal. They would be afforded the opportunity to trade from a position of depth to address a position of weakness.

 

[YP44]

Pysyk is literally almost exactly a year younger than McNabb, 2 on doughty, 3 on muzzin.

Not at you directly but this is a 'grass is greener' scenario.

Don't understand how on one hand a lot of folks won't show any patience for McNabb but will bring yet another inexperienced d-man with even more question marks.

It was in comparison to Demers (4 years younger) and Yandle (5 years younger). I know Pysyk has more question marks then those two as well, but his cap hit is much less and he is under team control (RFA) at the end.

 

[YP44]

How exactly does re-signing Lucic give us any flexibility to trade for a young Dman in this cap environment? It just ties up more money into a LW'er. Unless he's alluding to re-signing and then trading Lucic...

he is saying not re-signing him would give flexibility to sign lewis and shore up the d

 

[Omni Owl]

he is saying not re-signing him would give flexibility to sign lewis and shore up the d

His statement doesn't make sense then, "...were the Kings to re-sign the power forward, it would allow them flexibility to be able to trade for a young defenseman that could enhance the depth on the back end..."
That's an odd way of wording it.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

His statement doesn't make sense then, "...were the Kings to re-sign the power forward, it would allow them flexibility to be able to trade for a young defenseman that could enhance the depth on the back end..."
That's an odd way of wording it.

Read what I said above. He's saying they'll have a wealth of LWers and will be able to trade one if they find a trade for a d-man. Someone like Mersch or King or possibly even Pearson in the right deal would become available.

If they don't sign Lucic then yes, they'll have the cap space to sign one instead. If they do sign Lucic, they'll have assets to trade for one.

 

[kilowatt]

His statement doesn't make sense then, "...were the Kings to re-sign the power forward, it would allow them flexibility to be able to trade for a young defenseman that could enhance the depth on the back end..."
That's an odd way of wording it.

No, I think he's saying that if the Kings can re-sign Lucic, they'll have an extra top-six forward to trade.

 

[Omni Owl]

No, I think he's saying that if the Kings can re-sign Lucic, they'll have an extra top-six forward to trade.

Yeah that's what I thought. I think the heat is ****ing with my head because I tried reading that statement about ten times and it still didn't make sense.

 

[YP44]

delete

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

It was in comparison to Demers (4 years younger) and Yandle (5 years younger). I know Pysyk has more question marks then those two as well, but his cap hit is much less and he is under team control (RFA) at the end.

Oh I know. I'm just making a blanket statement because I'm not sure that really addresses our issues. Pysyk isn't a top pairing guy, he just becomes depth/redundancy, is arguably not better than McNabb, AND we have to give up assets for him. Cap control is sure nice but it comes at a cost. Pysyk/Martinez COULD be a good 2nd pairing, but doesn't seem to be a Sutter-style pairing.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/report-several-teams-interested-in-bringing-ilya-bryzgalov-aboard/

Bryzgalov’s agent, Ritch Winter, told Russian news outlet TASS that he started speaking with teams as soon as Bryzgalov had made clear his wish to return to the NHL, and while teams were likely shocked to get the call, that doesn’t mean there hasn’t been some interest. In fact, there are currently a number of teams lining up to speak with Bryzgalov about his return.

“It is a return to the NHL, and (there are) currently six teams interested in him last week,” Winter said, via TASS.

Winter said that a decision could be made soon and Bryzgalov could have a place to play within the month. And although the veteran has missed a significant amount of playing time — he last stepped on the ice for an NHL game in February 2015 — Winter said his client has remained in good shape, though realizes it would have been “impossible to wait any longer” to make an attempt at returning to the NHL.

Think the Kings have expressed interest?