GDT: Official Trade Deadline Thread Part XXX

[broadwayblue]

No we won't. We will get a 1st and 2nd and people will raaaaaggggeee about how its also an underwhelming return.

Sign me up for that deal right now.

 

[effen]

And people need to chill on the Hayes front. He's the top center available on the market, we'll do well there.

Creative stipulations. I like it a lot.
That they aren't likely to hit is sort of not relevant. It's better equity wise than a 2nd and some toad taken in the 3rd round in 2017 for obvious reasons.

 

[egelband]

And Dallas’ ownership is really pushing for the team to contend, I think Zucc resigning there is going to come down to if Zuccarello wants to stay there, not if the Stars want to keep their first

I certainly hope it happens. But it’s going to require a lot to fall into place. But a small chance is better than no chance, of course.
If he doesn’t re-sign with Dallas, second option for me is him coming back to the Rangers. Though I suspect that ship has sailed.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

No we won't. We will get a 1st and 2nd and people will raaaaaggggeee about how its also an underwhelming return.

to quote effen...

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

They could have just had no conditions. That would be better for Dallas, yanno?

They essentially did... you’re asking for A barely holding on wildcard team to win two rounds and/or resign an aging forward after they’ve been public about this being a last shot and potentially rebuilding

 

[Off Sides]

At worst it's a 2nd and 3rd, at best two 1sts, Not too sure what the problem with that is given so many liked the anything can happen in playoffs ideas that went around when the Rangers were entering them, along with the ideas that extending pending UFAs was a good idea.

 

[Gardner McKay]

to quote effen...

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Lol.

You know it is bad when I am the voice of reason. I mean, I am the guy that changed his username to Fire Gorton after the Stepan deal. He's done well and he did well here too. Very well. I am really happy with this deal.

 

[NYRKING30]

Best part of the trade? Dumping Webster is better then any 1st rounder.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Best part of the trade? Dumping Webster is better then any 1st rounder.

Yes this is the oversight that everyone needs to take a look at.

 

[Gardner McKay]

They essentially did... you’re asking for A barely holding on wildcard team to win two rounds and/or resign an aging forward after they’ve been public about this being a last shot and potentially rebuilding

You're looking at it from fan eyes vs. ownership eyes.

Dallas isn't owned by Jim Dolan. They need playoff revenue. They need to compete. If Zucc goes there and catches fire, they may want to re-sign him to a 4-5 year deal. That could be worth a 2020 1st for them. Playoff revenue means millions extra for the Stars.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Jiri Hudler in 2016 returned a 2nd+4th
Mats Zuccarello in 2019 returned a 2nd+3rd which can both become 1sts

Are you saying Zucc is only that but better than Hudler?

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

You're looking at it from fan eyes vs. ownership eyes.

Dallas isn't owned by Jim Dolan. They need playoff revenue. They need to compete. If Zucc goes there and catches fire, they may want to re-sign him to a 4-5 year deal. That could be worth a 2020 1st for them. Playoff revenue means millions extra for the Stars.

If they make the playoffs(they’re on track to be a wildcard team) it’s not because of Zucc. Let’s face it they’re pushing now because Benn and Seguin are getting old

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Lol.

You know it is bad when I am the voice of reason. I mean, I am the guy that changed his username to Fire Gorton after the Stepan deal. He's done well and he did well here too. Very well. I am really happy with this deal.

Effen laid it out best....

Bobby Mac for the last month: Zucc is worth a 2nd+
2/23/2019: Zucc traded for a 2nd+
HFNYR: REEEEEEEEEE!

I mean, there are a select few people who straight up said they would be pissed if thats all he got - Those guys have every right to be upset with management. The others? They should only be mad at themselves for having unattainable expectations.

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

Here’s to hoping Hayes gets us a first rounder to ease the tensions around here

 

[InTheShift]

Perfect spot for us to take a goalie.

You sonofabitch.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Are you saying Zucc is only that but better than Hudler?

point totals 3 years prior to being traded:

Hudler:
54 in 75
76 in 78
35 in 53

Zuccarello:
59 in 80
53 in 80
37 in 46

 

[Gardner McKay]

If they make the playoffs(they’re on track to be a wildcard team) it’s not because of Zucc. Let’s face it they’re pushing now because Benn and Seguin are getting old

While true, that doesn't address my point.

 

[Glennsoe]

I don't see him signing here again this summer though..

 

[NCRanger]

I don’t know what’s worse.

Realizing Zuccarello’s point production isn’t being replaced unless they sign a UFA, or the fact the NHL thinks Keith Urban is entertaining to hockey fans.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Here’s to hoping Hayes gets us a first rounder to ease the tensions around here

He will.

The only rental forward out there who is better is Stone.

Someone is going to miss on stone/get tired of waiting on Stone and we'll do well there.

 

[Gardner McKay]

So where does Hayes go?

 

[effen]

They essentially did... you’re asking for A barely holding on wildcard team to win two rounds and/or resign an aging forward after they’ve been public about this being a last shot and potentially rebuilding

I'd rather have those conditions than a random 6th rounder.

 

[Vitto79]

Kypreos mentioned a 1st and Logan Stanley a Dman from the Jets ... he’s massive but another LD?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

So where does Hayes go?

Nashville or Calgary.

 

[Lays]

I might be late to this but did anyone mention Hayes following some Predators players a few hours ago?