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No matter how bad Fred's voice is and how much he derails the show, Rich doing 4 hours alone would be better than Dan Lifshatz and Joe Murray. And I am not a Rich fan either.
With all of the non-sports entertainment options available now via satellite radio and streaming, is there a market for a non-Boston sports talk centered morning show?

I’d almost we come back a Dennis and Callahan type show at this point. Just something to throw on for the drive to work.
 
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In here he says he doesn't get why it's a big deal. I hope they figure out what the problem is but it's a big deal because he is absolutely unlistenable on the air. He was already at that point with a normal voice but add this in and it can't continue this way. He also has no ability whatsoever to just ignore people on social media. That's a trait you need in his line of work.

Revs only drew 13,176 for the home opener
Fenway my man this is a bit disingenuous. It was snowing that day! They get bigger crowds as the year goes on...
 
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I wonder if they just scrap T&R and make the Bankroll Boys the morning show.
I listen more in the night show slot so if this means no Joe Murray at night I am all for it. I have no idea what the station sees in this guy. Whenever I have the misfortune of tuning into the weekend gambling spot it's unbelievable to me that anyone can listen to that. I just don't understand it. The Bankroll boys as a full time morning show would be an absolute disaster...right? Or am I underestimating the people who like hearing about Kennesaw State men's basketball?
 

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With all of the non-sports entertainment options available now via satellite radio and streaming, is there a market for a non-Boston sports talk centered morning show?

I’d almost we come back a Dennis and Callahan type show at this point. Just something to throw on for the drive to work.
If one of these stations decided to go that route give me Kirk Minihane. I wouldn't listen all the time but I would absolutely tune in more to that over the Bankroll boys. Plus the crying and whining on here would be fantastic!
 

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In here he says he doesn't get why it's a big deal. I hope they figure out what the problem is but it's a big deal because he is absolutely unlistenable on the air. He was already at that point with a normal voice but add this in and it can't continue this way. He also has no ability whatsoever to just ignore people on social media. That's a trait you need in his line of work.

Bacterial infection.
 

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I think the bottom line is that there are so many options out there now to get exactly the content you want. There’s social media. There are podcasts. Anything you want to find out about is going to be clipped and posted to Twitter.

I used to love Patriots Monday on EEI. It was must listen during my lunch break.

Now, you have all the press conferences and interviews on demand whenever you feel like listening.

The only market I really see is afternoon drive, where you want to hear them bitch about the Patriots’ lack of activity in free agency, or the Red Sox tone deafness, or Jayson Tatum choking in the final seconds.

It’s a schtick, and I’m guilty of indulging.

Felger and Mazz have taken the old formula from Glen Ordway and evolved it to fit with today’s world.

But even then, I find myself listening for 20 minutes and having heard enough for one day. Then move onto something else.

Any genre of music or talk is available in an instant.
 

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I think the bottom line is that there are so many options out there now to get exactly the content you want. There’s social media. There are podcasts. Anything you want to find out about is going to be clipped and posted to Twitter.

I used to love Patriots Monday on EEI. It was must listen during my lunch break.

Now, you have all the press conferences and interviews on demand whenever you feel like listening.

The only market I really see is afternoon drive, where you want to hear them bitch about the Patriots’ lack of activity in free agency, or the Red Sox tone deafness, or Jayson Tatum choking in the final seconds.

It’s a schtick, and I’m guilty of indulging.

Felger and Mazz have taken the old formula from Glen Ordway and evolved it to fit with today’s world.

But even then, I find myself listening for 20 minutes and having heard enough for one day. Then move onto something else.

Any genre of music or talk is available in an instant.
And technically you heard the entire show for the day. I have listened to the 2 o'clock segment and then tune back in at 5 and it is the same exact thing.
 

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In here he says he doesn't get why it's a big deal. I hope they figure out what the problem is but it's a big deal because he is absolutely unlistenable on the air. He was already at that point with a normal voice but add this in and it can't continue this way. He also has no ability whatsoever to just ignore people on social media. That's a trait you need in his line of work.


Fenway my man this is a bit disingenuous. It was snowing that day! They get bigger crowds as the year goes on...
Fred is an attention seeker. He needs social media to give him validation and when he doesn't get it, he freaks out.

I also find Fred to be incredibly jealous and borderline vindictive. Wallach has called basketball games as a side gig for years and it is no shock that the Celtics have tapped him as Grande's backup. Fred can't handle it because he has no one to dump on and has been so nasty to Wallach since the fall. If he doesn't get offered an opportunity he wants to complain about the person who did instead of being happy for them.

I think there is more than just his voice behind him being off air this week.

I can easily see him being fired but unless they are bringing in someone from the outside I think his seat is one giant rotation.
 

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Audacy ( formerly Entercom ) 6 years ago decided to buy CBS Radio without asking the most basic question - Why was CBS getting out of radio????


CBS knew it was time to bail and hoped they could find a sucker and they did with Entercom.





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If they can't make the Chicago Bears radio contract work they are in big trouble. The woeful Bears are still #1 in that market as they are the only team everybody in the market follows.

Audacy has to be hemorrhaging red ink with the Red Sox right now.

Their stock price on the NYSE isn't good

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Please make it stop. I can’t take it anymore.
I want to take a chain saw to my big flat-screen every time I see another ad for sports betting.
Which is … every commercial break … of every game.
We get it, DraftKings. You too, FanDuel. Ditto BetMGM.
You keep telling us how easy it is to … make … it … rain.


It is implied to be free money, right? We can’t lose, right? We are smarter than the average fan, so if we just go with our instincts, we can make a bundle just sitting on our couch.

Or, more likely, we’ll end up being one of a million suckers who’ll regret ever placing that first “legal” bet.

Seriously.

Why not just attach a hose to your bank account and turn on the giant sucking machine?

Nobody ever loses in the pathetic bro-culture commercials. Everybody’s happy, surrounded by young, attractive friends, soaking up some suds and making cash without actually working. They hug. They high-five. They do cartwheels in the man cave.

Oh, and remember this, fanboys: If you purchase anything remotely, or just open your phone, there are enticing ads to “bet $5, get $200 in free bets instantly.” The Caesars Sportsbook App offers $1,500 in deposit matching credits. Others offer up to $1,000 in “risk free” bets.

It’s all legal and they are coming after you and your wallet.

It’s recruitment. Some might call it grooming. They draw you in and then you can’t get out. They can even hire academic “experts” who’ll tell us that there’s no problem here.

I wonder when we start hearing the sad stories of fanboy bros who lose a bet or two watching TV while downing brewskis, then empty their bank accounts trying to catch up.

I especially loathe the TV ad with my pal Lenny Clarke walking past Zdeno Chara and Bruins anthem singer Todd Angilly, strolling outside the Garden alongside Brian Scalabrine and Aly Raisman, then having a little quick convo with “Everywhere, Everything” anything-for-a-dollar David Ortiz. I mean, how many local heroes can we puncture in one 30-second commercial?

Swell.

Meanwhile, here in the sports media world, local TV, radio, and sports websites, including BostonGlobe.com and Boston.com, are poisoned with the stuff. The once-respectable NESN, now absent any substantive local programming other than Bruins and Red Sox games, has become a 24/7 go-to for sports bettors.

Monday morning on NESN, I stumbled into a hideous show called “Follow the Money” (not to be confused with NESN’s “Ultimate Betting Show”) and listened to two guys agonizing over the final seconds of every NCAA game from the weekend. While discussing strange happenings at the end of tourney games already won or lost, the gambling experts chastised network announcers for not calling attention to how final-minute random plays affected point spreads and betting lines.

Meanwhile, the crawl below highlighted “prop analyzers tracking past player performances … fresh betting splits sourced in real time … exclusive betting tools with the best data … bonus money by playing the squares” and urged me to buy a subscription to VSiN (Vegas Stats and Information Network).

I needed a shower after a half-hour of this garbage.
 

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Please make it stop. I can’t take it anymore.
I want to take a chain saw to my big flat-screen every time I see another ad for sports betting.
Which is … every commercial break … of every game.
We get it, DraftKings. You too, FanDuel. Ditto BetMGM.
You keep telling us how easy it is to … make … it … rain.


It is implied to be free money, right? We can’t lose, right? We are smarter than the average fan, so if we just go with our instincts, we can make a bundle just sitting on our couch.

Or, more likely, we’ll end up being one of a million suckers who’ll regret ever placing that first “legal” bet.

Seriously.

Why not just attach a hose to your bank account and turn on the giant sucking machine?

Nobody ever loses in the pathetic bro-culture commercials. Everybody’s happy, surrounded by young, attractive friends, soaking up some suds and making cash without actually working. They hug. They high-five. They do cartwheels in the man cave.

Oh, and remember this, fanboys: If you purchase anything remotely, or just open your phone, there are enticing ads to “bet $5, get $200 in free bets instantly.” The Caesars Sportsbook App offers $1,500 in deposit matching credits. Others offer up to $1,000 in “risk free” bets.

It’s all legal and they are coming after you and your wallet.

It’s recruitment. Some might call it grooming. They draw you in and then you can’t get out. They can even hire academic “experts” who’ll tell us that there’s no problem here.

I wonder when we start hearing the sad stories of fanboy bros who lose a bet or two watching TV while downing brewskis, then empty their bank accounts trying to catch up.

I especially loathe the TV ad with my pal Lenny Clarke walking past Zdeno Chara and Bruins anthem singer Todd Angilly, strolling outside the Garden alongside Brian Scalabrine and Aly Raisman, then having a little quick convo with “Everywhere, Everything” anything-for-a-dollar David Ortiz. I mean, how many local heroes can we puncture in one 30-second commercial?

Swell.

Meanwhile, here in the sports media world, local TV, radio, and sports websites, including BostonGlobe.com and Boston.com, are poisoned with the stuff. The once-respectable NESN, now absent any substantive local programming other than Bruins and Red Sox games, has become a 24/7 go-to for sports bettors.

Monday morning on NESN, I stumbled into a hideous show called “Follow the Money” (not to be confused with NESN’s “Ultimate Betting Show”) and listened to two guys agonizing over the final seconds of every NCAA game from the weekend. While discussing strange happenings at the end of tourney games already won or lost, the gambling experts chastised network announcers for not calling attention to how final-minute random plays affected point spreads and betting lines.

Meanwhile, the crawl below highlighted “prop analyzers tracking past player performances … fresh betting splits sourced in real time … exclusive betting tools with the best data … bonus money by playing the squares” and urged me to buy a subscription to VSiN (Vegas Stats and Information Network).

I needed a shower after a half-hour of this garbage.
Welcome to the new world of sports betting

I knew it was coming but even so I didn't appreciate the virtual tsunami of ads that would be introduced.

i am clearly aging out since I watch sports to see who won and who lost....but the " cool kids " ( at least if you watch the ads) are more interested in whether Pasta has 3.5 shots a game on net or if Tatum continues to be 2-9 in fourth quarter 3 points attempts.

ahh for the day when the headlines read Bs handle HaBs 5-2..... today we are heading towards headlines that read last second shot undermines total game over-under line
 
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Welcome to the new world of sports betting

I knew it was coming but even so I didn't appreciate the virtual tsunami of ads that would be introduced.

i am clearly aging out since I watch sports to see who won and who lost....but the " cool kids " ( at least if you watch the ads) are more interested in whether Pasta has 3.5 shots a game on net or if Tatum continues to be 2-9 in fourth quarter 3 points attempts.

ahh for the day when the headlines read Bs handle HaBs 5-2..... today we are heading towards headlines that read last second shot undermines total game over-under line
We are already there with the headlines. Fantasy sports has been prepping us for this, and the regrettable day is here.
 
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NASCAR used to be that way w/ no alcohol sponsorships.....of any type......until Crown Royal/Diageo shattered that ceiling.....
my dad once told me I would know I was getting old when I started saying" I remember when...." your NASCAR memory is mine of NHL players without helmets or the tail end of goalies without masks

he also said that while getting old wasn't great it sure beat the alternative
 

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I put 50 bucks in a Draft Kings account. I had my balance up to just under 400 bucks. I then lost a bunch (including losing out on 200 bucks on a parlay on that Philly game a few games ago where they blew the game with .2 seconds to go) and I got my balance back down to 50 bucks. I withdrew it and am out just like I said I would be.

That shit is a trap and it’s going to ruin people. People can go on and on about “freedom of choice” all they want but the “incentives” they offered are full on meant to reel you in to what equates very closely to a drug addiction. For the first week you can lose every single bet and they’ll throw money at you to keep your balance up to make you think you know what you’re doing/can beat the house (you can’t).

I encourage everyone to either avoid it altogether or make a NO EXCEPTIONS commitment to put money in once, take the bonus’s to see what happens, and then get the f*** out before ever putting another penny in.
 

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Please make it stop. I can’t take it anymore.
I want to take a chain saw to my big flat-screen every time I see another ad for sports betting.
Which is … every commercial break … of every game.
We get it, DraftKings. You too, FanDuel. Ditto BetMGM.
You keep telling us how easy it is to … make … it … rain.


It is implied to be free money, right? We can’t lose, right? We are smarter than the average fan, so if we just go with our instincts, we can make a bundle just sitting on our couch.

Or, more likely, we’ll end up being one of a million suckers who’ll regret ever placing that first “legal” bet.

Seriously.

Why not just attach a hose to your bank account and turn on the giant sucking machine?

Nobody ever loses in the pathetic bro-culture commercials. Everybody’s happy, surrounded by young, attractive friends, soaking up some suds and making cash without actually working. They hug. They high-five. They do cartwheels in the man cave.

Oh, and remember this, fanboys: If you purchase anything remotely, or just open your phone, there are enticing ads to “bet $5, get $200 in free bets instantly.” The Caesars Sportsbook App offers $1,500 in deposit matching credits. Others offer up to $1,000 in “risk free” bets.

It’s all legal and they are coming after you and your wallet.

It’s recruitment. Some might call it grooming. They draw you in and then you can’t get out. They can even hire academic “experts” who’ll tell us that there’s no problem here.

I wonder when we start hearing the sad stories of fanboy bros who lose a bet or two watching TV while downing brewskis, then empty their bank accounts trying to catch up.

I especially loathe the TV ad with my pal Lenny Clarke walking past Zdeno Chara and Bruins anthem singer Todd Angilly, strolling outside the Garden alongside Brian Scalabrine and Aly Raisman, then having a little quick convo with “Everywhere, Everything” anything-for-a-dollar David Ortiz. I mean, how many local heroes can we puncture in one 30-second commercial?

Swell.

Meanwhile, here in the sports media world, local TV, radio, and sports websites, including BostonGlobe.com and Boston.com, are poisoned with the stuff. The once-respectable NESN, now absent any substantive local programming other than Bruins and Red Sox games, has become a 24/7 go-to for sports bettors.

Monday morning on NESN, I stumbled into a hideous show called “Follow the Money” (not to be confused with NESN’s “Ultimate Betting Show”) and listened to two guys agonizing over the final seconds of every NCAA game from the weekend. While discussing strange happenings at the end of tourney games already won or lost, the gambling experts chastised network announcers for not calling attention to how final-minute random plays affected point spreads and betting lines.

Meanwhile, the crawl below highlighted “prop analyzers tracking past player performances … fresh betting splits sourced in real time … exclusive betting tools with the best data … bonus money by playing the squares” and urged me to buy a subscription to VSiN (Vegas Stats and Information Network).

I needed a shower after a half-hour of this garbage.

I’m willing to bet that over 98% of people who bet more than 5K a year, don’t win their 5K back.
 
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I put 50 bucks in a Draft Kings account. I had my balance up to just under 400 bucks. I then lost a bunch (including losing out on 200 bucks on a parlay on that Philly game a few games ago where they blew the game with .2 seconds to go) and I got my balance back down to 50 bucks. I withdrew it and am out just like I said I would be.

That shit is a trap and it’s going to ruin people. People can go on and on about “freedom of choice” all they want but the “incentives” they offered are full on meant to reel you in to what equates very closely to a drug addiction. For the first week you can lose every single bet and they’ll throw money at you to keep your balance up to make you think you know what you’re doing/can beat the house (you can’t).

I encourage everyone to either avoid it altogether or make a NO EXCEPTIONS commitment to put money in once, take the bonus’s to see what happens, and then get the f*** out before ever putting another penny in.
I carried over $34 from old DFS into FD. Used that and the bonus crap and made like $600. Withdrew into Venmo and back down to the $34. Couple hockey bets tonight. If I don’t win cya later, thanks for the money. Unfortunately most people will continue to line their pockets.
 

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