(Official) Around the NHL 8.0
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Johnny GODreau
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Johnny Hoxville
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I'm surprised he's still out there, not that I want him on the Flames but given his play in Toronto you'd think someone would be willing to give him a decent contract, maybe a team like Boston.
Pirate King Luffy
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I would welcome it as well. The only thing I wouldn't like is Smid and Engelland as the 7th and 8th Dmen. 5M+ on two players sitting in the pressbox is horrid.
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Johnny GODreau
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.Jokes aside if they can sign Franson for about half of what Dougie signed for it'll be a nice short term solution for them.
Yung Rotini
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Really unsure on why Franson hasn't been signed yet. Is he just being too picky? I can't see no teams being interested in him.
Volica
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I have a feeling he wants a longer term contract, and not many teams are willing to give it to him after the saga with the Preds.
It'd be great if Calgary could give Franson a one year deal for cheap.
Who knows if Smido will be available for the start of the season and Engels could be moved at half salary. There was a large market for him last summer.
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Having either one of them on the ice is even more horrid. I doubt Nakladal was signed for more AHL depth and we all hope Wotherspoon gets a spot anyway.
Can't imagine the Flames being interested in Franson. Giordano, Brodie, Hamilton and Wideman are all safe bets to produce offensively and Russell is no slouch. Substituting Engelland with Franson would also result in a complete lack of truculence from the back end; can't see that happening either.
Both Smid and Engelland are untradeable at this stage. No team in this cap climate is going to be interested in bottom pairing/press box defensemen with hefty cap hits and multiple years left on their contracts. Especially one with concussion issues.
And Treliving will be cognizant of needing to keep spots available for the likes Wotherspoon, Morrison, Nakladal and other prospects. No need to return to a Sutter era reputation of burying prospects for mercenary free agents.
Both Smid and Engelland are untradeable at this stage. No team in this cap climate is going to be interested in bottom pairing/press box defensemen with hefty cap hits and multiple years left on their contracts. Especially one with concussion issues.
And Treliving will be cognizant of needing to keep spots available for the likes Wotherspoon, Morrison, Nakladal and other prospects. No need to return to a Sutter era reputation of burying prospects for mercenary free agents.
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Not sure you implied Russell is good offensively or not but in case you did: he had 0.28 primary points/60 at even strength last season (0.44 in all situation combined). His shooting% was way too low even for a defenseman so he'll probably score a few more goals next season but still, Russell is bad at producing offensively.
Not a big fan of going after Franson; would rather go after Wiercoch. But on a 1-year deal, it's a different story. And Engelland's "truculence" is barely existent; he's too slow to get the proper gap distance to make those hits and as a result, he was more of a stop post than a physical presence.
Well, duh. At this point it's more about "out of ice, out of mind" than trading the two.
Doesn't really work if Smid and Engelland are #6 and #7.
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Smid has neck issues, not concussion issues. And that Sutter era reputation is a narrative that [mod: is] completely inaccurate. It's time to accept facts, lots of kids got opportunities but our prospect pool sucked so they never became much.
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Sean Bennett
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Russell can't exactly be categorized as an offensive defensemen but the 20 to 30 points he'll put up as the teams number four or five defensemen is more than good enough.
Maybe, but management has made it clear they want a guy like that on defense. They've made it clear they're not going to ice a team incapable of pushing back. Pure fantasy hockey to to go for the names instead of trying to build a functioning, diverse roster. Engelland is mediocre to bad, sure, but it's pretty much a guarantee that when his time is done, his replacement will be in a similar mold (but hopefully better).
Well, good luck with that. If they're not injured/on LTIR, and there's no legitimate reason to think either will be to start the season, keeping both as healthy scratches means risking an extra forward (e.g. Shore or Jooris) on waivers. And that's not happening either. Nor is it all that realistic to suggest that ownership would consent to paying either Smid or Engelland's NHL salaries while they toil in the AHL.
Still better than if they're #7 and #8.
Yung Rotini
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Sharks sign Frazer McLaren. Well, we might as well just give in to the 2016 Pacific division champion San Jose Sharks. No point in even playing. 
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Sharks sign Frazer McLaren. Well, we might as well just give in to the 2016 Pacific division champion San Jose Sharks. No point in even playing.
Kind of seems weird that they didn't just re-sign John Scott, who was apparently a favourite in the locker-room.
Yung Rotini
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Yeah. Doesn't make too much sense to me either.
Well, we got John Scott, Frazer McLaren and Brian McGrattan in our division.. how truculent.
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Johnny Hoxville
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As much as I didn't mind Engelland last year, it would have been cool to sign Franson this offseason to fill that spot on the team. I'm guessing you could probably get Franson today for 3 year, @ 3 per, which is essentially what we signed Engelland for last offseason. Engelland is better in his own end no doubt, but Franson has a canon of a shot and is more truculent IMO.
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