Official 9th Baseball ATD Discussion Thread Part II

[UL Washington]

Big Ed is great value here. One of the best pre-1900 players.

 

[ryan callahan]

Big Ed is great value here. One of the best pre-1900 players.

Hopefully he won't jump out of the train when we are going away

 

[Winger for Hire]

Non baseball protip- Always have a backup pair of tongs in the kitchen.

Was trying to flip a London broil and the tongs broke. Had to MacGyver it

 

[ryan callahan]

Also I like the Delahanty pick for me since it lets me institute a bit of a platoon. Against righties, Oh will go to 1st and against lefties it will be Delahanty. Carew moves to 2nd. Lou Whit takes a big L at the end of the day but whatever.

 

[td_ice]

Doubling up, starting at whatever round, is fine with me.

But I am just one vote. Guessing it would have to be unanimous to move forward with it though. As it is a pretty significant change to pre-existing rules set forth.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Hey guys im here sorry for delay i got mandatoried at my job and we arent allowed to have phones in the facility so i could not check hf(worked a 16 hr shift)

 

[Porn*]

I'm fine with doubling whenever but it should start with the last pick....

 

[Winger for Hire]

How did you get WAR for a career Negro League pitcher, Pwn? Don't you need a baseline average of the players in the league to determine where replacement level is?

 

[Pwnasaurus]

Assuming that the league average runs/game is 4.50, you can calculate Smith's pythagenpat winning percentage in each year and subtract replacement level (0.420) from this winning percentage, and multiply by innings pitched divided by 9.

Not an exact science but gives some sort of context to go on. I can't take credit for doing that work though.

 

[Winger for Hire]

Much obliged.

A whole lot of assuming in it, but at least there's a method.

 

[bluesfan94]

I like Delahanty a lot.

 

[Pwnasaurus]

Much obliged.

A whole lot of assuming in it, but at least there's a method.

Eh, the BBHOF released league average data, Eric Chalek who has done a lot of work on NEL data did estimates for RC/game. RA+ calculated from that and the data in the earlier post derived WAR from RA+. Some assumptions (specifically around defensive support) but I would not backhandedly compliment all that work with the caviat of it being a whole lot of assumptions. Especially since the engine was from the BBHOF. We know stats from that league/era are rough, but we have to try.

 

[NJDevs26]

So if it gets to 4:09 and nobody's picked yet do both picks get skipped?

And if Vegeta does pick does darko's clock reset to start whenever that pick is made?

 

[Pwnasaurus]

So if it gets to 4:09 and nobody's picked yet do both picks get skipped?

And if Vegeta does pick does darko's clock reset to start whenever that pick is made?

Yes.
No.

 

[darko]

Picking shortly.

 

[NJDevs26]

Finally broke the logjam

 

[Winger for Hire]

I like the Blue pick, he was on my shortlist

 

[Porn*]

I like the Blue pick, he was on my shortlist

Thanks I like having 3 Lefties... might be able to use one of them out of the bullpen :p

 

[td_ice]

Was hoping to get Sale. Nice one.

 

[NJDevs26]

I had Sale queued up a couple rounds ago but needed to pick a couple of pen arms before a #5 SP/swing guy, plus I wanted another 2B and Grich was the last of the upper-tier guys. Thought maybe I'd pick Sale on this turn, oh well.

 

[td_ice]

I like the Grich pick. Would have gone him had Cano been taken.

 

[td_ice]

There definitely is a big difference between a 16 team league and a 20. All these teams are ridiculously good.

 

[NJDevs26]

There definitely is a big difference between a 16 team league and a 20. All these teams are ridiculously good.

I wasn't here for the 20-team league (I think I'm one of the two rookies in this draft by my calculation) but one thing I find, I've been using the previous year or two's pick numbers to help determine value but the longer you go in the draft the less accurate it seems to be. Last year's pick #250 was round 13, this year's pick #250 is round 16 for example - the drafting philosophy and needs are a lot different between those three rounds.

 

[Porn*]

guys who went late previously went earlier and vice a versa... outside of the top 2 or 3 rounds... things vary a great deal i find.

 

[le_sean]

Relief pitchers went a lot earlier this year. That is the big difference.