Official 9th Baseball ATD Discussion Thread Part II

[NJDevs26]

Relief pitchers went a lot earlier this year. That is the big difference.

Blame the 2016 postseason I guess

But yeah that's the biggest shift in value...a lot of hitters and even some SP's draft position went way down while relievers' went up for the most part.

 

[Winger for Hire]

I was guilty of neglecting RPs last year, that's why I snagged 3 in a row in the midst of the RP run

 

[UL Washington]

Relievers are going earlier because they tend to start going when most people have 7 or 8 batters and at least their top 3 starters. So with 4 less teams, it makes sense that relievers are going 50 picks earlier than last year.

 

[le_sean]

Relievers are going earlier because they tend to start going when most people have 7 or 8 batters and at least their top 3 starters. So with 4 less teams, it makes sense that relievers are going 50 picks earlier than last year.

Well in a 20 team league I had Eck-Reardon-Tug as relievers and it didn't help me much. People still tend to focus on batting order and rotation when judging teams.

 

[UL Washington]

Well in a 20 team league I had Eck-Reardon-Tug as relievers and it didn't help me much. People still tend to focus on batting order and rotation when judging teams.

I liked your team quite a bit last year. I think I had it in my top 3.

 

[td_ice]

Relievers are going earlier because they tend to start going when most people have 7 or 8 batters and at least their top 3 starters. So with 4 less teams, it makes sense that relievers are going 50 picks earlier than last year.

This.

 

[NJDevs26]

Relievers are going earlier because they tend to start going when most people have 7 or 8 batters and at least their top 3 starters. So with 4 less teams, it makes sense that relievers are going 50 picks earlier than last year.

It took me a while to do the math on that, but when I did that's when I picked my next two relievers before the quality dropped further. Ironically there's still one or two guys on the board that I was considering before I picked Uehara (Foulke was one).

 

[td_ice]

I liked your team quite a bit last year. I think I had it in my top 3.

Same, I think I had them 3rd as well.

 

[bluesfan94]

I liked your team quite a bit last year. I think I had it in my top 3.

I have no idea where I had that team but for what it's worth, I also couldn't tell you my last pick.

 

[bluesfan94]

Hrabosky was the top of my shortlist.

 

[Porn*]

Last year i had a short bp and it killed me...

 

[ryan callahan]

Melancon is a great steal at this point and I still kick myself for not selecting him. Apart from the strikeouts, he's not that different from relievers like Chapman and Jansen.

 

[Winger for Hire]

Yeah, Melancon's a really elite modern day closer, but lacking those K's and radar gun readings.

That cutter tho...

And on top of that, he's super nice guy. I've had season tickets from the Pirates for some years now and my seats are right next to the bullpen door and he gives away balls and autographs to kids like crazy. I've also seen a former Pirates' pitcher get a pizza delivered to the bullpen from a concession stand. It was hilarious.

 

[darko]

Last year i had a short bp and it killed me...

You really want a 6-man bullpen. 5 is passable. I think you had 3 or 4.

 

[Winger for Hire]

Yeah, you went ultra short pen with 4 arms. Even with Smoltz being your "long guy", I couldn't envision the workload with only 9 pitchers.

There would be a lot of occasions where you could literally have your entire pen "unavailable".

 

[le_sean]

What's the rule now for time seeing as how it was at night?

 

[NJDevs26]

It's been 16 hours, go ahead and pick. There's no clock freeze at night here.

 

[UL Washington]

Kaat - 283 career wins, picked 283rd in this draft. Coincidence? Or something darker?

 

[Winger for Hire]

 

[le_sean]

Well I didn't pick him to pitch. I picked him to do colour commentary for Royals games. Should have been clearer.

 

[Porn*]

Yeah, you went ultra short pen with 4 arms. Even with Smoltz being your "long guy", I couldn't envision the workload with only 9 pitchers.

There would be a lot of occasions where you could literally have your entire pen "unavailable".

yes... i had 3/4 real relievers but had 6 starters... figured one could slot in but was clearly wrong lol

 

[bluesfan94]

Never mind

 

[darko]

yes... i had 3/4 real relievers but had 6 starters... figured one could slot in but was clearly wrong lol

Also depends whether your 6th starter had pitched out of pen before. It's minor but still matters.

 

[Winger for Hire]

So we're tripling up on picks moving forward?

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I think bullpens are weirdly judged in this. We're looking at an all time league and applying today's standard of what a reliever is.