LT
Global Moderator
- Jul 23, 2010
- 42,416
- 14,118
Off-season thread
- Thread starter M88K
- Start date
-
HF Sportsbook has been reset for the new season - Click here to play.
people in NHL circles likely know who's invoved and who isn't - if you're signing a contract in 2023, chances are they've been cleared
M88K
irreverent
- May 24, 2014
- 9,768
- 7,941
Pretty sure it's why Alex Formenton is not in the NHL anymore
Pretty sure he admitted he stopped trying. Explains how bad he was that season.
Do we wonder if there are suspensions imminent, and that was why Nill thought there would be some activity in mid-July?
Nah that has little to nothing to do it with it. Still free agents that need to make decisions and then you have situations like DeAngelo to Carolina, where the Flyers have to wait for a full year to pass before they can retain on him. Just a lot going on and teams need to get themselves squared away on paper before they start pulling the trigger on trades.
Edit: I am curious as to why Calgary hasn’t done shit. Trying to repair relationships with current players? If that doesn’t play out the way they want they’re gonna have a lot of work to do in a short period of time.
Troy McClure
Suter will never be scratched
My guess is trade prices and free agent prices will drop as the summer moves along. There are still several teams who need to clear cap space, and they'll eventually have to bite the bullet to give guys away.
Hockey Dad
Registered User
Not sure if I would be interested or not but if the cap is going up next year. What would a Seth Jones trade look like. He is overpaid so would not give up too much
Elysian
Emo Stars Fan
account deactivated
Finns > Swedes
Denver Post: - Nichushkin involved in incident that prompted police/medical response
Might as well start a thread for this, so it doesn’t clutter up the injury thread. Denver Post story. Still a lot of questions to be answered.
No idea what Chicago would want but how do you fit in his cap hit?
I would love to add him to the team. I wanted to see it happen 2 years ago or whenever he was available
M88K
irreverent
- May 24, 2014
- 9,768
- 7,941
Just to make it work this year alone, we'd have to clear 9mil in cap space. There's no way you're getting any significant retention for 7yrs.
So you'd need to look at the ways you could create 9mil in space to fit him.
Seguin (NMC)
Benn (NMC)
Lindell +Marchment (NMC and 10t NTC)
Duchene+Faksa+Suter (5t NTC, NMC)
Duchene+Pavelski +Faksa(NMC, 5 NTC)
Of the players you would move to open that space, there's NMC involved, and even if they were willing to waive for Chicago, a lot have negative value.
Jones doesn't have a ton value anymore himself especially with that horrid contract but would still hold more value than most of the $ we'd have to ship out.
Of the players we can trade without concern for an NMC, you're gutting the depth to add jones.
All this is to say that there's no scenario where it works for this season, and even if you could make the money work, why would you want to anchor yourself to that horrible of a contract. We're finally getting towards the end of Benn/Seguin. We don't need to take on another washed up player with a bad hit and tons of term.
Why is Seth Jones' contract "horrid"? That's what #1 defensemen get paid in the NHL.
He's a top pairing defenseman with the good enough IQ to have positive value into his 30s. It's not like he's in his mid 30s, slowed down, with negative possession metrics relative to his teammates. I'd much rather have Seth Jones than Erik Karlsson.
He's a top pairing defenseman with the good enough IQ to have positive value into his 30s. It's not like he's in his mid 30s, slowed down, with negative possession metrics relative to his teammates. I'd much rather have Seth Jones than Erik Karlsson.
M88K
irreverent
- May 24, 2014
- 9,768
- 7,941
Because he's not a #1 defenseman, has been trending down for the last few years, some of that can be attributed to Chicago being a bad, but he's signed until he's 35, he's decent at preventing defensive zone entry but otherwise gets caved in while in the defensive zone, good offensively.
He'd instantly be our 2nd best d-man, and it would benefit him to be behind heiskanen, but he's already not a 9.5m player(there's a reason everyone laughed at that contract when it was signed he's done nothing to redeem it) and considering his last 3yrs it doesn't bode well for the remaining 7, regardless if being on bad Chicago and Columbus teams can explain some of it
has he? or did one bad season in 2020-21 + a massive contract cause public perception of him to change
Elysian
Emo Stars Fan
Im not aware of the off ice stuff but he’s still one hell of a player
Member the Jones v Klingberg discussion?
I’m curious if anyone has changed their tune now.
Not everyone loves hockey so much that they can stomach full games of other teams, but being a DAL and CBJ fan made it easy to make the distinction for me. Klingberg was never as good as Jones and CBJ’s defense hasn’t been the same since he left. Go back and watch the Tampa Bay sweep if you wanna see what Miro looks like right-handed.
I’m curious if anyone has changed their tune now.
Not everyone loves hockey so much that they can stomach full games of other teams, but being a DAL and CBJ fan made it easy to make the distinction for me. Klingberg was never as good as Jones and CBJ’s defense hasn’t been the same since he left. Go back and watch the Tampa Bay sweep if you wanna see what Miro looks like right-handed.
Hockey Dad
Registered User
Would like to add Jones but that would really f*** up the viability of this thing long term with how the “core” contracts are set up. Don’t even know how you’d move that money around.
Yeah unless part of that cap hit gets eaten by Chicago or a 3rd team, Jones isn’t happening. I think he and Heiskanen would benefit a lot playing with each other though.
starsfan86
Registered User
- Sep 27, 2006
- 4,666
- 3,485
Ad
Upcoming events
-
NLCS Los Angeles Dodgers @ New York Mets - Best of 7 - Game 5 - LA Dodgers leads series 3-1Wagers: 1Staked: $176.00Event closes- Updated:
-
-
-
ALCS New York Yankees @ Cleveland Guardians - Best of 7 - Game 4 - NY Yankees lead series 2-1Wagers: 1Staked: $5,000.00Event closes
- Updated:
-