Off-season thread

[Kcb12345]

 

[Satan]

lmao

 

[The Tourist]

elite

 

[LT]

elite

How did this translate to Cates above Faksa in their defense-only ranking?

Faksa is ahead in both transition and defense. He also plays the more important position.

 

[piqued]

Quick, trade Faksa to Boston for Carlo as their Bergeron replacement

 

[Johno]

How did this translate to Cates above Faksa in their defense-only ranking?

Faksa is ahead in both transition and defense. He also plays the more important position.

The role difficulty plays a big part there.

Quick, trade Faksa to Boston for Carlo as their Bergeron replacement

Definitely should trade him now if he has a boost in trade value after this defensive season.

 

[Satan]

How did this translate to Cates above Faksa in their defense-only ranking?

Faksa is ahead in both transition and defense. He also plays the more important position.

Magical numbers

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

The role difficulty plays a big part there.


Definitely should trade him now if he has a boost in trade value after this defensive season.

Definitely not on trading him now. A real GM can't always be thinking about some potentially mythical improvement from some young prospect or draft pick. You have a good role player on a reasonable salary who is very good at what they do. You were 6 wins from the Cup. You keep your good players and try to add, not subtract for some future considerations.

 

[Zapp]

Sounds like DeBrincat going to Detroit which was always the most likely scenario. Wonder if we have any other trade targets with all the fire sales going on.

 

[Satan]

Definitely not on trading him now. A real GM can't always be thinking about some potentially mythical improvement from some young prospect or draft pick. You have a good role player on a reasonable salary who is very good at what they do. You were 6 wins from the Cup. You keep your good players and try to add, not subtract for some future considerations.

yea but think about the impact a 2024 2nd round pick will have for this team in 2030 !

 

[Zapp]

yea but think about the impact a 2024 2nd round pick will have for this team in 2030 !

As if we draft anything other than elite franchise cornerstones in the 2nd round. You better check your draft privileges fren

Side note: Friedman and Marek have mentioned a few times before how hard VGK has tried to get Faksa from Dallas. You’ve seen the prices they pay. If they couldn’t get Nill to trade Faksa I doubt anyone can.

 

[Satan]

As if we draft anything other than elite franchise cornerstones in the 2nd round. You better check your draft privileges fren

Side note: Friedman and Marek have mentioned a few times before how hard VGK has tried to get Faksa from Dallas. You’ve seen the prices they pay. If they couldn’t get Nill to trade Faksa I doubt anyone can.

the org's scouts have struck a great balance between hitting absolute home runs and also whiffing on meatballs - but i guess that's drafting in a nutshell

either way- this team has a positive outlook for the foreseeable future as long as Oettinger doesnt turn into a pumpkin

 

[Zapp]

Lol

 

[Satan]

Taylor vs Tyler

 

[BrettHullsToe]

If Colorado thinks their 2C hole will be filled by Johansen and therefore does nothing to acquire another good center this offseason, we really need to send the Preds a "Thank You" card and nice gift basket for crippling our strongest divisional competitor before next season has even started.

 

[Troy McClure]

Vegas would do this.

 

[Zapp]

Vegas would do this.

Lol only retaining $1.5m? No thanks. That’s a terrible proposal. We give up Mush, Lundkvist (1st), a 1st, 2nd, and a prospect for a 33 year d-man at $10m? f*** no.

 

[The Tourist]

$1.5? Not sure about that.

 

[eartotheground]

Vegas would do this.

if you have any faith in nils (which i do) this is a lot to give up. and way too much $$$ for a health risk.

 

[M88K]

Vegas would do this.

Maybe with higher tension, that is not enough. Though getting out of Marchment is a big +

 

[David Castillo]

Lol only retaining $1.5m? No thanks. That’s a terrible proposal. We give up Mush, Lundkvist (1st), a 1st, 2nd, and a prospect for a 33 year d-man at $10m? f*** no.

The trade itself leaves Dallas with $6ish million left when all is said and done. I get the concern with Karlsson's value himself, but whatever the Stars can fit into the cap this year, they'll be able to fit long term. Harley's the only player getting a raise next year, and that's when Pavelski's gone. Johnston's the only player getting a big raise the year after, and that's when the money really starts coming off.

 

[Zrhutch]

Think you can get San Jose to retain more than that for that package, but it’s still a probable yes for me. Hate giving up Nils though.

 

[Johno]

Definitely not on trading him now. A real GM can't always be thinking about some potentially mythical improvement from some young prospect or draft pick. You have a good role player on a reasonable salary who is very good at what they do. You were 6 wins from the Cup. You keep your good players and try to add, not subtract for some future considerations.

Improvements from within are always a question mark, but he is one of the only realistic “cap relief” options right now. The defensive impact is hard to fully replace, but easier than to ask the current lineup to perform better vs. adding someone from the outside to the offensive side.

Vegas would do this.

Eh, no thank you. That is horrendous for the Stars. Drop the first and retain 1.5mil more, and maybe the Stars think about it.

Still hate the idea of adding the anchor of a contract of EK65 to our mess (Benn/Seggy)

 

[account deactivated]

Think you can get San Jose to retain more than that for that package, but it’s still a probable yes for me. Hate giving up Nils though.

Yeah, I'm probably not as sold on the future for Nils, but I'd want a bit more retention on that contract.

 

[roryjones]

Can they get that down closer to 8 mil? That is a ton to give up for only 1.5 retention. I get it’s Karlsson but he is getting old and 4 more years of his contract.