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Off Season Thread: Kings Roster Moves

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Reading through this thread figured it might help to throw together a list of players under contract along with guys likely to be resigned, and at the end list ones unlikely to be retained.

Under contract or likely to be retained;
Forwards: Kopitar, Brown, Richards, Carter, Gaborik, Williams, Stoll, Lewis, Pearson, Clifford, Toffoli, Kings, Nolan, Shore, Mersch, Sabourin, Dowd, Zykov, Weal, Kitsyn, O'Neill, Crescenzi, Vey, Andreoff, Prokhorkin (was signed about a month and a half ago right?)

Defense: Doughty, Voinov, Regher, Greene, Martinez, Muzzin, McNabb, Forbort, Ebert, Miller, MacDermid, Roach, Bodnarchuk, LoVerde

Goalies: Quick, Jones, Bartosak, Berube

Unlikely to be retained or UFA;
Forwards: Quailer, Livingston, Parker, Fraser

Defense: Mitchell, Schultz, Campbell

Goalies: none

Unsigned Prospects;
Forwards: Auger, Brodzinski, Kubalik, Lowry, Moller (guess LA still holds his rights...)

Defense: LaDue, Leslie, Gravel

What are people's thoughts on Campbell getting an offer? Was called up towards the end of the year and then was also in the first group of Black Aces called up. Of course the Kings are awful crowded on the backend with 14 D under contract already and that doesn't count Gravel.

Kubalik is the only one of the unsigned that wouldn't be eligible for an NHL/AHL contract, and the Kings are sitting at 41 contracts by my count (40 if you don't count Zykov. Could see Auger, Leslie and Lowry as possible signings, and Gravel needs a deal still.

Let me know if I'm missing anyone or have people listed wrong and I can edit this post if it would be helpful.
 
tigermask48 said:
What are people's thoughts on Campbell getting an offer? Was called up towards the end of the year and then was also in the first group of Black Aces called up. Of course the Kings are awful crowded on the backend with 14 D under contract already and that doesn't count Gravel.
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From the Kings? I think he can see that he's not really part of the Kings plans. He's been in Manchester for 6 years. He just got into his first NHL game this year. The Kings traded for another young defenseman. I'm guessing he'd like to try and advance in his career. Whether that's what another team in the NHL, or over in Europe or the KHL, I don't know.
 
The Black1963 said:
Schultz is being glorified because of the dux series. In the long haul, I think Campbell would be a better overall fit.
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Agree with this, also wasn't Soupy the captain for the Monarchs this past year?

A part of me thinks the offer is at least made to him of a one way contract and the Kings try to sneak him to Manchester. It's not like he has a glut of NHL experience and any team that picks him up has to keep him in the NHL.
Of course it may push someone like Ebert, MacDermid, or Roach to Ontario, but that's the only real downside.
 
tigermask48 said:
Agree with this, also wasn't Soupy the captain for the Monarchs this past year?

A part of me thinks the offer is at least made to him of a one way contract and the Kings try to sneak him to Manchester. It's not like he has a glut of NHL experience and any team that picks him up has to keep him in the NHL.
Of course it may push someone like Ebert, MacDermid, or Roach to Ontario, but that's the only real downside.
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I don't think he gets anything but a two way deal from any organization. I think he gets a nice deal whereby if he goes down he will make roughly $125k-$150k on his AHL deal.

He will be somewhere else next year.
 
KingCanadain1976 said:
I have always liked and wanted to see Campbell on the roster However i think the time has come and gone. I hope to see him get a shot somewhere else.
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Well I'm not entirely convinced he isn't in the Kings plan anymore. DL loves to have a couple older players ready to go in Manchester as seen by Schultz and Fraser spending time there this past year and guys like Mullen, Paddock, Rodney, Stewart, Hunter, etc being there in the past.

With Campbell getting a call-up as a black ace this year I think he may still be in the Kings plans, maybe not with the Kings but as a potential call-up in Manch.
 
tigermask48 said:
Prokhorkin (was signed about a month and a half ago right?)
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That's complicated...

  • He gets drafted by the Kings, signs a contract, and then begins playing with Manchester.
  • Moscow Dynamo comes flying in and says they already had a contract with him so his NHL deal with the Kings is voided.
  • Moscow Dynamo tells Prokhorkin that he can do a buyout of the contract, but he has to use his own money to do it -- not money provided by the Kings.
  • This summer he shells out the money, Moscow Dynamo let him out of the contract, and the Kings sign him to a contract again.
  • This time the KHL itself comes running and tells him that he should have read the fine prints of his contract because he needed to inform them first before proceeding with any buyout.

So technically he's stuck in contract limbo right now until it all eventually gets sorted out between the KHL and NHL.
 
Primakov! said:
That's complicated...

  • He gets drafted by the Kings, signs a contract, and then begins playing with Manchester.
  • Moscow Dynamo comes flying in and says they already had a contract with him so his NHL deal with the Kings is voided.
  • Moscow Dynamo tells Prokhorkin that he can do a buyout of the contract, but he has to use his own money to do it -- not money provided by the Kings.
  • This summer he shells out the money, Moscow Dynamo let him out of the contract, and the Kings sign him to a contract again.
  • This time the KHL itself comes running and tells him that he should have read the fine prints of his contract because he needed to inform them first before proceeding with any buyout.

So technically he's stuck in contract limbo right now until it all eventually gets sorted out between the KHL and NHL.
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My head is spinning after reading your summary. :amazed:

Jeebus, hope this thing gets resolved once and for all.
 
I doubt Campbell remains in the Kings system, he has a shot this year to make an NHL roster somewhere and actually play on an NHL team.

If I was Campbell I would go to UFA, look at playing with Florida,EDM,Jets ETC.
 
tigermask48 said:
Well I'm not entirely convinced he isn't in the Kings plan anymore. DL loves to have a couple older players ready to go in Manchester as seen by Schultz and Fraser spending time there this past year and guys like Mullen, Paddock, Rodney, Stewart, Hunter, etc being there in the past.

With Campbell getting a call-up as a black ace this year I think he may still be in the Kings plans, maybe not with the Kings but as a potential call-up in Manch.
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I would love to have him on the roster as 7th defense man However to many players need to get a roster spot. He has spent more then his fair share of time in the ahl I expect him to get a nhl job which hes got the talent to play. I wish him all the best thou and look forward to watching him play.
 
With Mitchell gone and McNabb moving up, I would think the Kings may look at a veteran to sign to a two-way deal, similar to what they did with Jeff Schultz. Or they can just bring Schultz back on a similar contract.
 
The Black1963 said:
Schultz is being glorified because of the dux series. In the long haul, I think Campbell would be a better overall fit.
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It's more of an issue of the team running into injuries and needing someone to step in who can play the PK. I'd be happy with Campbell coming back since he's put his time in, but I could also see him moving on. Same goes for Schultz if they find a better opportunity of cracking a top 6-7 spot on a roster.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
With Mitchell gone and McNabb moving up, I would think the Kings may look at a veteran to sign to a two-way deal, similar to what they did with Jeff Schultz. Or they can just bring Schultz back on a similar contract.
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They don't sign two way deals, they can't. It's a one way deal that they end up clearing waivers. Anyone could have claimed Shultz when the Kings sent him down after training camp.

(Edit)I don't think Lombardi signed Shultz for insurance, I actually think he was brought in to win a spot on the NHL roster. The Blue-Line coming out of Camp had holes.

No one knew if Muzzin/A-Mart/Greene/Mitchell were going to play well. Also Manchester had no one able to call up(No one ready).
 
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damacles1156 said:
They don't sign two way deals, they can't. It's a one way deal that they end up clearing waivers. Anyone could have claimed Shutltz when they Kings sent him down after training camp.
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Schultz wasn't earning a minor league salary in Manchester? I know he cleared waivers, two-way contracts have nothing to do with waivers. I don't think a team would sign a guy close to $1M to be their 8th defenseman playing in Manchester.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Schultz wasn't earning a minor league salary in Manchester? I know he cleared waivers, two-way contracts have nothing to do with waivers. I don't think a team would sign a guy close to $1M to be their 8th defenseman playing in Manchester.
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He was earning an NHL salary. Read my edit above. Veterans like Shultz with his Experience, don't sign to play for AHL wages. They can simply go to Euro and earn twice as much.

The KHL/Swiss/DEL would have payed Shultz to play at least around 100k. The average AHL salary (two way contract) is about 40-60k.

It's why Bud Holloway and Moller remain in the Euro, they both want One way deals.

I know people don't think much of him, but Shultz is a legit NHL Defender.
 
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Well, the thing with Schultz last year was that not many were knocking at his door so he saw an opportunity to at least stay in North America and still make a decent salary playing in the minors. There are lots of players in that situation who find themselves in limbo as to whether they swallow their pride and play in the minors or just try to make as much as they can in Europe.

Who knows if Schultz's situation changes now considering how he was useful in the second round, some team may look at giving him more of a regular role as a #6-7 guy as opposed to being a minor league call up. Same applies for Campbell who probably wants a shot at a #6-7 spot. With the Kings, they'll be #8-9.

Although now that I think about it, the Kings might have their #8 guy in Bodnarchuk who has one more year left on his two-way contract.
 
Sadly Bods (I think) is not in the Kings plans. He was by far the most dominant Defender on the Monarchs last year.....Didn't even get a cup of coffee.

Heck the Kings went out and traded for McNabb with Bods having just a Dominant season, what does that tell you ?

Now Gravel/Forbort are in the mix. Campbell and Bods are just not part of the Kings plans.
 
Buffalo is good place for Nolan to go to. He can play for his dad. It'd be funny if he ever gets healthy scratched there. Has that ever happened? Ever?
 
MynameisKing said:
Buffalo is good place for Nolan to go to. He can play for his dad. It'd be funny if he ever gets healthy scratched there. Has that ever happened? Ever?
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The only way he gets scratched is if he plays so well he helps them out of the basement.

Erhoff, wtf?
 
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