Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Madness the 12th: We don't know Dickey (about any extension. Yet)

[rojac]

So, if this turns out to be a deal that you don't personally like, does that mean you no longer trust AA as the GM?

 

[Stats01]

I wonder if a fanbase has ever not wanted to trade for the reigning Cy Young winner before. What a joke.

 

[theaub]

Oh man we have our first bitter Peter Gammons tweet of the trade saga.

Gives this some credibility imo

 

[trellaine201]

Hope its rasmus plus.

 

[Canada4Gold]

So, if this turns out to be a deal that you don't personally like, does that mean you no longer trust AA as the GM?

If people don't like this deal they'd probably go back to not trusting AA as their janitor let alone their GM, some fans are so fickle.

If I don't like the deal I won't be happy with AA obviously, but I've always trusted his judgement as our GM. Everyone makes a bad deal. It might not even be a bad deal. I'll just pray it works out.

 

[cyris]

I wonder if a fanbase has ever not wanted to trade for the reigning Cy Young winner before. What a joke.

We want him we just have common sense and don't think we should pay whatever price the Mets want to do it. Dickey for a fair price awesome. Overpaying out the ass no thanks.

 

[Scion]

I think you missed the part about him saying if the leafs were close to being a contender

I am working under the premise that the Leafs are contenders. Not that it changes anything however, bad asset management is bad asset management, regardless of a teams position in the standings.

 

[Stats01]

We want him we just have common sense and don't think we should pay whatever price the Mets want to do it. Dickey for a fair price awesome. Overpaying out the ass no thanks.

We don't even know the details yet.

 

[canucksfan]

I wonder if a fanbase has ever not wanted to trade for the reigning Cy Young winner before. What a joke.

What a simplistic view of the situation.

 

[dredeye]

I'm still holding out some very slight hope for JPA, Rasmus +.

Yeah I was really hoping that was gonna be the framework for this deal. Sounds like the Mets are looking for as many years of control as possible which may have taken them out of the equation early. The waiting game has now begun.

 

[Jozay]

So, if this turns out to be a deal that you don't personally like, does that mean you no longer trust AA as the GM?

Everyone makes mistakes.

 

[trellaine201]

Jays might have a hard time extending him imo. They are basing it on the original figure reported. Which is a bargain for a cy young winner. Surely hes worth closer to sanchez type money. $15M?

Guess we will see what happens. I have doubts.

 

[cyris]

So, if this turns out to be a deal that you don't personally like, does that mean you no longer trust AA as the GM?

If I dont like the deal, I still trust him. He has made too many good moves not to.

I also admit he knows alot more than I do. I have faith in that. It doesn't mean I have to like the trade or that AA cant make a mistake.

 

[dredeye]

So, if this turns out to be a deal that you don't personally like, does that mean you no longer trust AA as the GM?

It may take away the ninja status either way. Way too much info leaked during the process and too high of a premium if the rumours are true. I'd still trust him but this could be one he loses and badly.

 

[Crispy Crust]

This is just really bad asset management if this trade is true.

 

[Cool Beans Man]

Only in Toronto (the most frustrating sports city for a fan in the world) would people be pissed about acquiring a top player, regardless of the price (which has yet to be released)

If the Jays win the World Series, it will have been worth it, and that's what its all about. If it backfires, you can look back and say it was a bad trade.

 

[cyris]

We don't even know the details yet.

No one said we did. And I haven't said I don't want Dickey. I'm just not gonna be happy with the return if we do overpay.

 

[Canada4Gold]

We don't even know the details yet.

Which is exactly what everyone is saying. If it's as reported it's overpayment, if it's a fair deal then great.

You then come up with that meaning people don't want a Cy Young winner

 

[Langdon Alger*]

It may take away the ninja status either way. Way too much info leaked during the process and too high of a premium if the rumours are true. I'd still trust him but this could be one he loses and badly.

Doesn't seem as though any of it leaked on our end. You can't help what the other side does.

 

[LV*]

Should I pull my pants down and bend over? Cause if this deal includes tda + noah, we sure got ****ed.

 

[dredeye]

What a simplistic view of the situation.

simple minds create simplistic views.

 

[Stats01]

Jays might have a hard time extending him imo. They are basing it on the original figure reported. Which is a bargain for a cy young winner. Surely hes worth closer to sanchez type money. $15M?

Guess we will see what happens. I have doubts.

Why not just give him what he's been rumoured to want. 2 years 13 mil per.

 

[cyris]

I am working under the premise that the Leafs are contenders. Not that it changes anything however, bad asset management is bad asset management, regardless of a teams position in the standings.

Some people just have no patience. We don't even know how the team we have now will perform together.

 

[dredeye]

Doesn't seem as though any of it leaked on our end. You can't help what the other side does.

Absolutely you can't stop it but you can end negotiations at least temporarily.

 

[theaub]

Only in Toronto (the most frustrating sports city for a fan in the world) would people be pissed about acquiring a top player, regardless of the price (which has yet to be released)

Yeah this has happened numerous times in the topic (oh wait it hasn't and you're just pulling stuff out of your ass)