Off-season discussion

[Tabarouette]

FFS they played on the same line most of the year, on PP and 5 on 5. The only extra minutes Plekanec got was on PK or late in game for defensive situations.

With the fans on here sometimes I wonder if any of them are older than 12 or actually watch the games.

he was also our 1st center for about 8 games, and blew it in the last 4 or 5 but we're not allowed to mention it

MT RUINED HIM AMIRITE

 

[Monctonscout]

Some observations from this season and post season for me

- this team isn't as far off as many are going to claim it is.

- while they're not far off, what they need, is going to be extremely difficult to acquire or rather, will take some creative roster manipulation

- our top 2 centers are inadequate

- The Habs need one of Beaulieu/Tinordi to take a huge step forward next year

- Tomas Plekanec is trade chip that Bergevin has to and I believe, will use (I know, not popular opinion, but this situation is coming to a head and what I've learned with Bergevin is that he's often very proactive)

- Desharnais is neither important to this teams success or failure, whether he stays or goes is irrelevant IMO, what's more important is that the coaching staff understands his strengths/weakenesses and uses him accordingly IF he's going to continue to be a member of the team

...and how would you say they could better use Desharnais to his strengths?

People are complaining that he plays with Pacioretty and in offensive situations. Being an offensive player and playmaker, would that not be playing to his strengths?

 

[AnotherHabsFan]

how many teams per year are not winning a Cup ? Even teams with better coaches and players never won a SC. I would had preferred a longer run, but I am realistic, which is something you are not. This team is not built yet to battle to the end. Any superior coaches according to your set of criterias would not had achieved more with this current team.

Go away Desharnais. Anyone with a brain can see that we are a better team than we appear to be.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Some observations from this season and post season for me

- this team isn't as far off as many are going to claim it is.

- while they're not far off, what they need, is going to be extremely difficult to acquire or rather, will take some creative roster manipulation

- our top 2 centers are inadequate

- The Habs need one of Beaulieu/Tinordi to take a huge step forward next year

- Tomas Plekanec is trade chip that Bergevin has to and I believe, will use (I know, not popular opinion, but this situation is coming to a head and what I've learned with Bergevin is that he's often very proactive)

- Desharnais is neither important to this teams success or failure, whether he stays or goes is irrelevant IMO, what's more important is that the coaching staff understands his strengths/weakenesses and uses him accordingly IF he's going to continue to be a member of the team

Agreed, I don't think we are that far off being a serious contender and for a few years. I don't really care how he does it but this summer Bergevin has work to do, find possibly 2 solid top 6 players. Petry would also be a great fit if he can convince him to stay and possibly trading away Emelin or Gilbert to make some room.

It was a good season but I think a little wasted one as well. We could have came out of the East this year.

 

[Luigi Habs]

Personnally I'd make the following moves:

Re-sign Petry. I'd say close to at whatever cost.
Re-sign Mitchell.
Trade Eller, Desharnais and Emelin.
Acquire a top 6 winger and a top 2 center.
Make the following prospects available for trade: Fucale, Abdrighetto, Tinordi, 1st round pick in 2016.

 

[Tyson]

With Edmonton getting ready to grab McDavid, would anyone here object to trying to land Yakupov? Habs have assets... Habs have to get some creative offensive players....

 

[Ezpz]

I don't think we even have desirable assets.

 

[Seb]

Personnally I'd make the following moves:

Re-sign Petry. I'd say close to at whatever cost.
Re-sign Mitchell.
Trade Eller, Desharnais and Emelin.
Acquire a top 6 winger and a top 2 center.
Make the following prospects available for trade: Fucale, Abdrighetto, Tinordi, 1st round pick in 2016.

I doubt we can acquire a top 2 center via trade and the only one worth signing in the offseason is Vermette. Someone will overpay him and I hope it's not us.

We're screwed.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

With Edmonton getting ready to grab McDavid, would anyone here object to trying to land Yakupov? Habs have assets... Habs have to get some creative offensive players....

I don't think anyone would object, thing is what are we willing to move for Yaks. He ain't going to come cheap despite his struggles

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I doubt we can acquire a top 2 center via trade and the only one worth signing in the offseason is Vermette. Someone will overpay him and I hope it's not us.

We're screwed.

Vermette would be a huge mistake, if the Hawks let Richards go I'd rather get him for a 1 year contract

 

[MTL-rules]

-Need Babcock
-Need a first line scorer
-Need a Top six winger
-Need to re-sign or find a replacement for Petry

And Dan Lacroix should already be packing...

 

[AnotherHabsFan]

Personnally I'd make the following moves:

Re-sign Petry. I'd say close to at whatever cost.
Re-sign Mitchell.
Trade Eller, Desharnais and Emelin.
Acquire a top 6 winger and a top 2 center.
Make the following prospects available for trade: Fucale, Abdrighetto, Tinordi, 1st round pick in 2016.

I agree except that rather than Eller we should use Plekanec. Plekanec isn't getting better, he costs more, he only has a few years left on his contract, and he has been worst than Eller this post season. In my opinion, Eller is currently a part of our core along with Gally, Chucky, Subban, Max, and Price.

 

[DaHabMan]

id rather go with a Pleks-Galchenyuk as top 2 centers next yr. Takes some of the pressure off him while still giving him extra responsibility. he needs to develop and needs to play center.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I agree except that rather than Eller we should use Plekanec. Plekanec isn't getting better, he costs more, he only has a few years left on his contract, and he has been worst than Eller this post season. In my opinion, Eller is currently a part of our core along with Gally, Chucky, Subban, Max, and Price.

Agreed.

I wanted Eller moved at the deadline but after watching another disappearing act from turtleneck I think it's time for the Habs to move him.

 

[HabsDieHard*]

Personnally I'd make the following moves:

Re-sign Petry. I'd say close to at whatever cost.
Re-sign Mitchell.
Trade Eller, Desharnais and Emelin.
Acquire a top 6 winger and a top 2 center.
Make the following prospects available for trade: Fucale, Abdrighetto, Tinordi, 1st round pick in 2016.

I wouldn't trade Eller or Emelin.

Eller is a great 3rd line center, and Emelin has a full NTC until next Summer and brings a nice physical element too. His vlaue to the team greatly outweighs his value in any trade.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

he was also our 1st center for about 8 games, and blew it in the last 4 or 5 but we're not allowed to mention it

MT RUINED HIM AMIRITE

Welcome to the dark side.

 

[Hope Of Glory]

I hope we re-sign Mitchell. We need that righty center and he's a fine 4th liner.

 

[Luigi Habs]

I doubt we can acquire a top 2 center via trade and the only one worth signing in the offseason is Vermette. Someone will overpay him and I hope it's not us.

We're screwed.

I think guys like Staal or Thornton could be had via trade.

I also hesitated between Eller and Plekanec. I don't mind either. But Galchenyuk needs to play center next year no matter what.

 

[Luigi Habs]

I wouldn't trade Eller or Emelin.

Eller is a great 3rd line center, and Emelin has a full NTC until next Summer and brings a nice physical element too. His vlaue to the team greatly outweighs his value in any trade.

If we'd like to keep Petry we have no choice, Emelin has to go. No money available under the cap to acquire a top 6.

 

[Habit11]

id rather go with a Pleks-Galchenyuk as top 2 centers next yr. Takes some of the pressure off him while still giving him extra responsibility. he needs to develop and needs to play center.

This year, Monahan's 2nd year, Hartley played him 19:37 per game at center. That paid off very well. Galchenyuk in his 3rd year played 16:25 per game at wing barring a dozen games. This organization needs to grow a pair and do what Calgary did. Enough with the half measures and the aging centermen who aren't going to get any better, play Galchenyuk where you drafted him to play and keep him there no matter what. The alternative is to trade for a number 1, which will be costly, or continue with Pleks/DD, which we know the outcome.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

I think guys like Staal or Thornton could be had via trade.

I also hesitated between Eller and Plekanec. I don't mind either. But Galchenyuk needs to play center next year no matter what.

Keep Eller, trade Pleks. Sometimes a change is in order and Pleks, who I have a lot of time for, has worn out his time here. 4 points in 12 playoff games is unacceptable for a veteran of his stature.

 

[Habsawce]

It's now painfully obvious that the centre depth on this team is a ****ing joke. The only one (actually playing centre) that is worth **** in the playoffs is Eller. The rest can go for all I care.

Go out and get a real centre, a legit top centre. Eric Staal, Joe Thornton I don't know and I don't care. But this team needs some centres or they won't win. You just flat out need top centremen to win the playoffs and they don't have them.

 

[Luigi Habs]

Also forgot Parenteau. This guy is gone it's a no-brainer. Might have to buy him out though cuz I doubt anyone would take him.

 

[HabsDieHard*]

If we'd like to keep Petry we have no choice, Emelin has to go. No money available under the cap to acquire a top 6.

That's not true at all.

Especially since with a Beaulieu/Pateryn 5/6 pairing they'd have a pretty solid 3rd pairing at under 2 million a year for at least next year.

They could find a way to clear out some of the 7.5 in dead weight being used on the French Connection to find money to improve the forward depth on offence.

 

[Habit11]

If we'd like to keep Petry we have no choice, Emelin has to go. No money available under the cap to acquire a top 6.

He still has a NTC this coming season, so it might be tough.