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I went on and expanded the list to all players with 100+ playoff GP and no Cup:
When I started expanding the list, I hoped to get to Mats Sundin, but it didn’t happen within the top 100 playoff losers. He appeared in 91 playoff games, which places him among the 496 through 509 players with the most playoff GP. Another island of a star, Dale Hawerchuk, played 97 games (424th most, with 18 others), which is pretty crazy considering his teams only made it past the second round once, in his last season with the Flyers where they were swept in the finals. He had 11 first round exits, four of them in 3-game sweeps.
Anyhow. 409 skaters have gotten to 100 playoff appearances. Only 25.2% of them never won a cup. If you’re one of about 400 who played 100 games in the playoffs, there’s basically a 3/4 chance you won at least once. If you add just 10 games to become one of the top 300, the odds increase from 74 to 78%. If you’ve made it to the top 20 in playoff GP, you had a 9/10 chance of winning. If Pavelski decides he’s played his last NHL game, there are 20 players ahead of him who all won cups, with Bourque and Perry being the only guys to just manage once.
Top 10 playoff GP for goalies without a cup:
- Joe Pavelski 201 (21)
- Patrick Marleau 195 (25)
- Joe Thornton 187 (30)
- Dale Hunter 186 (31)
- Steve Thomas 174 (49)
- Adam Oates 163 (69)
- Brad Park 161 (75)
- Brian Propp 160 (77)
- Jeremy Roenick 154 (91)
- Mike Fisher 146 (107)
- Dan Girardi 143 (115)
- Marc-Edouard Vlasic 142 (119)
- Dino Ciccarelli 141 (122)
- Shayne Corson* 140 (128)
- Scott Mellanby 136 (149)
- Ryan Suter 133 (162)
- Peter Sezel 131 (178)
- Dave Poulin 129 (185)
- Russ Courtnall 129 (185)
- Marc Staal 128 (191)
- Keith Primeau 128 (191)
- Matt Carle 127 (196)
- Cliff Ronning 126 (202)
- Mel Bridgman 125 (205)
- Brian Boyle 124 (208)
- Daniel Briére 124 (208)
- Daniel Alfredsson 124 (208)
- Trevor Linden 124 (208)
- Chris Kreider 123 (216)
- Bryan Smolinski 123 (216)
- Jean Ratelle 123 (216)
- Zach Parise 122 (225)
- Paul Martin 122 (225)
- Mike Gartner 122 (225)
- Ryan Callahan 121 (231)
- Derek Stepan 120 (235)
- Brent Burns 120 (235)
- Craig Janney 120 (235)
- Charlie Coyle 119 (240)
- Justin Braun 119 (240)
- Sergio Momesso 119 (240)
- Kelly Miller 119 (240)
- Bernie Nicholls 118 (246)
- Kevin Hatcher 118 (246)
- Murray Craven 118 (246)
- Derick Brassard 118 (246)
- Paul Stastny 118 (246)
- Brenden Morrow 118 (246)
- James Patrick 117 (255)
- Logan Couture 117 (255)
- Stu Barnes 116 (258)
- Dave Ellett 116 (258)
- Mike Ramsey 115 (267)
- Chris Phillips 114 (270)
- Rick Middleton 114 (270)
- Gerald Diduck 114 (270)
- Dave Babych 114 (270)
- Anton Strålman 113 (282)
- Ryan Reaves 113 (282)
- Roman Hamrlik 113 (282)
- Joe Juneau 112 (290)
- Bob Murray 112 (290)
- Dave Manson 112 (290)
- Chico Maki* 112 (290)
- Dave Lowry 111 (296)
- James Neal 110 (301)
- Marcus Johansson 109 (306)
- Pierre Turgeon 109 (306)
- Don Sweeney 108 (314)
- Terry O’Reilly 108 (314)
- Peter McNab 107 (325)
- Bruce MacGregor* 107 (325)
- Randy Burridge 107 (325)
- Dainius Zubrus 106 (332)
- Wade Redden 106 (332)
- Martin Straka 106 (332)
- Norm Ullman 106 (332)
- Jyrki Lumme 105 (346)
- Calle Johansson 105 (346)
- Mattias Ekholm 105 (346)
- Henrik Sedin 105 (346)
- Chris Therien 104 (358)
- Ron Sutter 104 (358)
- Mike Ridley 104 (358)
- Dennis Hull 104 (358)
- Bob Sweeney 103 (369)
- Todd Gill* 103 (369)
- Curt Giles 103 (369)
- Keith Brown 103 (369)
- Jamie Benn 102 (378)
- Daniel Sedin 102 (378)
- Sami Salo 102 (378)
- Al Secord 102 (378)
- Sylvain Cote 102 (378)
- Dave Christian 102 (378)
- Ryan Kesler 101 (392)
- Dominic Moore 101 (392)
- Rhett Warrener 101 (392)
- Mike Grier 101 (392)
- Mark Howe 101 (392)
- Scott Hannan 100 (401)
- Mario Marois 100 (401)
- Pit Martin 100 (401)
- Shayne Corson’s a funny one. He played 3 games in his debut with the Habs in 1986, but none in that cup run, and moves to Edmonton during the 1993 season. Ouch.
- Maki is credited at nhl.com for winning the Cup in 1961 despite not playing a single game, having his regular season debut in 1961-62, and making his playoff debut in 1963. I don’t think so.
- Bruce MacGregor I now learned shares the dubious record with Propp, having five cup finals appearances without a win.
- Todd Gill played for the Red Wings between 1999-2001, and for the Avs in 2001-02. A precious kind of unlucky.
When I started expanding the list, I hoped to get to Mats Sundin, but it didn’t happen within the top 100 playoff losers. He appeared in 91 playoff games, which places him among the 496 through 509 players with the most playoff GP. Another island of a star, Dale Hawerchuk, played 97 games (424th most, with 18 others), which is pretty crazy considering his teams only made it past the second round once, in his last season with the Flyers where they were swept in the finals. He had 11 first round exits, four of them in 3-game sweeps.
Anyhow. 409 skaters have gotten to 100 playoff appearances. Only 25.2% of them never won a cup. If you’re one of about 400 who played 100 games in the playoffs, there’s basically a 3/4 chance you won at least once. If you add just 10 games to become one of the top 300, the odds increase from 74 to 78%. If you’ve made it to the top 20 in playoff GP, you had a 9/10 chance of winning. If Pavelski decides he’s played his last NHL game, there are 20 players ahead of him who all won cups, with Bourque and Perry being the only guys to just manage once.
Top 10 playoff GP for goalies without a cup:
- Curtis Joseph 133 (7)
- Henrik Lundqvist 130 (10)
- Tuukka Rask 104* (19)
- Tony Esposito 99* (21)
- Ron Hextall 93 (24)
- Carey Price 92 (25)
- Pekka Rinne 89 (27)
- Sergei Bobrovsky 87 (29)
- Evgeni Nabokov 86 (30)
- Kelly Hrudey* 85 (31)
- Tuukka did win as a backup of course, but didn’t play during the run. Esposito was behind Vachon and Worsley for the Habs in 1969, without a playoff GP. Hrudey debuted for the Islanders in 1983-84, but was behind Smith and Melanson for the run.