Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)

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This might be already known but the closest sweep in SCF was in 1968 where Habs outmuscled the Blues 4-0.

This is the score of such games:

Game 1: 3-2 Habs (OT)
Game 2: 1-0 Habs
Game 3: 4-3 Habs (OT)
Game 4: 3-2 Habs

- All games won by only 1 single goal.
- Lemaire scored the OT goal in game 1, Savard scored the short-handed goal to win game 2, Rousseau scored the OT goal in game 3, Henri Richard tied the game in game 4 before JC Tremblay scored the SCF GWG.
- The goalie they faced? old Glenn Hall.... nothing matters, just 0.916% and 2.43 GAA. A sweep but an honourable sweep.

Another one. With the inclusion of Pavel Datsyuk into HHOF in 2024, 2002 Detroit Red Wings became the first ever team to ice 4 HOF centres in their depth chart (Since the four lines FW became common).

1C : Fedorov (HHOF 2015)
2C : Yzerman (HHOF 2009)
3C : Larionov (HHOF 2008, TGC)
4C : Datsyuk (HHOF 2024, TGC)

3 Russians, 1 Canadian.
 

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This might be already known but the closest sweep in SCF was in 1968 where Habs outmuscled the Blues 4-0.

This is the score of such games:

Game 1: 3-2 Habs (OT)
Game 2: 1-0 Habs
Game 3: 4-3 Habs (OT)
Game 4: 3-2 Habs

- All games won by only 1 single goal.
- Lemaire scored the OT goal in game 1, Savard scored the short-handed goal to win game 2, Rousseau scored the OT goal in game 3, Henri Richard tied the game in game 4 before JC Tremblay scored the SCF GWG.
- The goalie they faced? old Glenn Hall.... nothing matters, just 0.916% and 2.43 GAA. A sweep but an honourable sweep.

Another one. With the inclusion of Pavel Datsyuk into HHOF in 2024, 2002 Detroit Red Wings became the first ever team to ice 4 HOF centres in their depth chart (Since the four lines FW became common).

1C : Fedorov (HHOF 2015)
2C : Yzerman (HHOF 2009)
3C : Larionov (HHOF 2008, TGC)
4C : Datsyuk (HHOF 2024, TGC)

3 Russians, 1 Canadian.
somewhat related: per the youngest/oldest team thread, I found it interesting that of the 12 oldest teams ever iced in the NHL, a staggering 8 were Red Wings teams between 2001 to 2011
 

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This might be already known but the closest sweep in SCF was in 1968 where Habs outmuscled the Blues 4-0.

This is the score of such games:

Game 1: 3-2 Habs (OT)
Game 2: 1-0 Habs
Game 3: 4-3 Habs (OT)
Game 4: 3-2 Habs

- All games won by only 1 single goal.
- Lemaire scored the OT goal in game 1, Savard scored the short-handed goal to win game 2, Rousseau scored the OT goal in game 3, Henri Richard tied the game in game 4 before JC Tremblay scored the SCF GWG.
- The goalie they faced? old Glenn Hall.... nothing matters, just 0.916% and 2.43 GAA. A sweep but an honourable sweep.

The Habs also swept the Sabres in the 2nd round of the 1993 playoffs:

Every score was 4-3
The three last games were decided in OT.
 

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Janne Laukkanen was a solid depth defender for the Sens in the late 90s as they went from the bottom of the league to the playoffs.

And as far as I can tell, he's the unlikely player who played the most ice time in his final NHL game, at least since ice time was tracked starting in 1997. Laukkanen was on the ice for 31 minutes and 52 seconds as the Lightning lost an overtime Game 5 to the Devils in 2003. I believe it was also his final professional hockey game.
 

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For 17th(Would have been 18 without the lock-out) straight seasons from 1998 until 2016 Vancouver Canucks leading scorer was raised to a hockeyplayer on this small outdoor rink a few kilometers away from Ornskoldsvik.

In the 54 years with Vancouver in NHL, a player from MoDo has been top 3 in scoring for the Vancouver 26 years.

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Only one player in NHL history has scored 4 points in the 3rd period of a game 7.

Matt Labanc

 

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Joe Ironside is the only goaltender in NHL History to have exactly 1 Shutout and 0 Wins. He was also the 1st Jewish goaltender to play in the league.

From Wikipedia:
He was called up to play for the Toronto Maple Leafs of the NHL. He played one game, a 0–0 tie that went to 10 minutes of overtime. Ironstone asked for double the contract rate for the game, an offer which was accepted by the Leafs' owner Conn Smythe. However, Smythe informed Ironstone that would be the last game he would ever play in the NHL, which ultimately was the case.
 
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7 NHL players have scored 35 or more points in one playoff season, occurring 11 times in total:

5 x Wayne Gretzky (47, 43, 40, 38, 35)
1 x Mario Lemieux (44)
1 x Connor McDavid (42)
1 x Paul Coffey (37)
1 x Evgeni Malkin (36)
1 x Mike Bossy (35)
1 x Doug Gilmour (35)

26 NHL players have scored 30 or more points in one playoff season, occurring 38 times in total:

6 x Wayne Gretzky (47, 43, 40, 38, 35, 34)
3 x Mark Messier (34, 31, 30)
2 x Mario Lemieux (44, 34)
2 x Connor McDavid (42, 33)
2 x Nikita Kucherov (34, 32)
2 x Leon Draisaitl (32, 31)
2 x Jari Kurri (31, 31)
1 x Paul Coffey (37)
1 x Evgeni Malkin (36)
1 x Mike Bossy (35)
1 x Doug Gilmour (35)
1 x Joe Sakic (34)
1 x Brian Leetch (34)
1 x Mark Recchi (34)
1 x Kevin Stevens (33)
1 x Brayden Point (33)
1 x Rick Middleton (33)
1 x Barry Pederson (32)
1 x Evgeny Kuznetsov (32)
1 x Evan Bouchard (32)
1 x Craig Simpson (31)
1 x Pavel Bure (31)
1 x Sydney Crosby (31)
1 x Al MacInnis (31)
1 x Daniel Brière (30)
1 x Logan Couture (30)

Amazingly, 16 of the 38 occurrences (42%) have been done by Edmonton Oilers!
 

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Borrowing this from a reddit post:

Every team that acquired Shayne Corson got worse immediately, and the team that gave him up immediately improved.

1991-92 MTL (with Corson) - 93 points >>>> 1992-93 (without) 102 points, Stanley Cup

1991-92 EDM (without Corson) - 82 points >>>>>> 1992-93 (with) 60 points

1994-95 EDM (with Corson) - 38 points in 48 games (65 point pace) >>>> 1995-96 (without) 68 points

1994-95 STL (without Corson) - 61 points in 48 games (104-point pace) >>>> 1995-96 (with) 80 points

1996-97 STL - 5-6-0 with Corson, 31-29-11 without

1995-96 MTL (without Corson) - 90 points >>>>> 1996-97 (with) 77 points

1999-00 TOR (without Corson) - 100 points >>>>> 2000-01 (with) 90 points

2002-03 TOR (with Corson) - 98 points >>>>>> 2003-04 (without) 103 points

2002-03 DAL (without Corson) - 111 points >>>>> 2003-04 (with) 97 points
 

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Janne Laukkanen was a solid depth defender for the Sens in the late 90s as they went from the bottom of the league to the playoffs.

And as far as I can tell, he's the unlikely player who played the most ice time in his final NHL game, at least since ice time was tracked starting in 1997. Laukkanen was on the ice for 31 minutes and 52 seconds as the Lightning lost an overtime Game 5 to the Devils in 2003. I believe it was also his final professional hockey game.

Equally obscure, that was not intended to be his final game. He came to 2003-04 training camp but an arthritic hip led to retirement. I cannot recall if he got into a preseason game before packing it in for good.
 
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Most of you are aware that Larry Robinson is the all-time +/- leader at +722 for his career. But there are only two franchises he didn't have a postive rating against. Can you name them without looking?

The first is somewhat surprising: the Montreal Canadiens. Robinson played 7 games against his former team while a member of the Los Angeles Kings, going a combined -3. Not shocking, as Robinson was in his late 30s and Montreal was still a very strong team in the late 80s, early 90s.

But the second team is the San Jose Sharks. Robinson played 7 games against them in his final season, picking up an even 0 across the games. This surprised me because a) I didn't realize Robinson stuck around long enough to dress in a game against the San Jose and b) the Sharks were awful that year, dead last in goals for and goals against.

If Robinson would have stuck around an extra year, he would have got 7 more games against an even worst Sharks team, not to mention a chance to play his former team in the Stanley Cup Finals.
 

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With Leon Draisaitl’s new contract, I was thinking about his stats for Edmonton and how he’s sort of a unique player. A three-time 50-goal scorer who is also often voted “best passer” in the NHL, Leon’s offensive peak years may (too soon to tell, I guess) go down as the five-year span 2018-19 to 2022-23.

That five-year span unfortunately included the Covid-shutdown and shortened season the following year, which ate into Draisaitl (and others’) peak years. Otherwise, Draisaitl has been an iron-man, playing almost all the games during that five-year span, as well as before and beyond. He appeared in 369 of 373 Oilers’ games (98.9%).

So, how well did Leon do in those five years? He averaged 1.46 points per game, which translates to 120 points per 82 (or 117 points per 80). In none of those seasons did he dip below a 100-point pace.

Then, I was wondering: Disregarding era scoring levels, and just looking at raw stats, how many NHL players have averaged 120 points per 82 games over a consecutive five-season span? To qualify, let’s say the given player has to have appeared in a certain percentage of his team’s games. I’ll arbitrarily set it at 80% (being at 80% actually means the player played only four seasons out of five). In other words, a player has to average 1.46 points-per-game or higher for a consecutive five-season period, while playing at least 80% of the games.

Draisaitl statistically falls at the bottom-end of this, since he’s right at 120 per 82. But how many players are above him?

Okay, so the obvious two:
Gretzky 1982-1986 (2.63 PPG) = 216 points per season
Lemieux 1986-1990 (2.08 PPG) = 171 points per season
(Mario would likely be up in the 180-190 point range if we counted 1989 to 1993… but he appeared in less than 75% of the Pens’ games.)

So, with Wayne at the top and Leon at the bottom, I filled in the other players I’ve found who did this. Here’s what I got:

Gretzky 1982-1986 (2.63 PPG) = 216 points per season
Lemieux 1986-1990 (2.08 PPG) = 171 points per season
Esposito 1971-1975 (1.77 PPG) = 145 points per season
McDavid 2020-2024 (1.70 PPG) = 139 points per season
Lafleur 1975-1979 / 1976-1980 (1.65 PPG) = 135 points per season
Orr 1971-1975 (1.65 PPG) = 135 points per season
Bossy 1982-1986 (1.64 PPG) = 134 points per season
Kurri 1983-1987 (1.58 PPG) = 130 points per season
Dionne 1979-1983 (1.57 PPG) = 129 points per season
Yzerman 1989-1993 (1.57 PPG) = 129 points per season
Šťastný 1982-1986 (1.56 PPG) = 128 points per season
Jágr 1995-1999 / 1996-2000 (1.55 PPG) = 127 points per season
Trottier 1978-1982 (1.54 PPG) = 126 points per season
Coffey 1984-1988 (1.51 PPG) = 124 points per season
Oates 1990-1994 (1.49 PPG) = 122 points per season
MacKinnon 2020-2024 (1.48 PPG) = 121 points per season
Draisaitl 2019-2023 (1.46 PPG) = 120 points per season

Did I miss anyone? I'm pretty sure I didn't, but let me know if so.

(Eric Lindros was 1% shy of 80% of games-played and 0.01 points-per-game off making it onto the list for the 1994-1998 period. Sidney Crosby is close from 2007-2011, just making it to over 80% of games played at scoring at 1.42 PPG. Nikita Kucherov doesn’t make it due to the 80% of games played minimum.)

Anyway, the only post-LockOut guys to manage this are McDavid, MacKinnon, and Draisaitl. In fact, those are the only 3 to do it this century.
 

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