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Darren Helm holds the record for most playoff goals scored before scoring a regular season goal with 6 (over two seasons).
Håkan Loob scored 26 goals in 73 NHL playoff games. 8 of those goals were shorthanded, which puts him in a tie for 4th all-time in playoff SHG, behind only Messier, Gretzky, and Kurri. Loob only scored 9 SHG in 450 regular season games.
Peter Bondra scored 32 SHG in the regular season but never scored a shorthanded goal in 80 playoff games.
He barely comes off the ice on a PP (which is why he holds the PPG record) and if he also played the PK he'd have much less speed. How close is he to leading in overall special teams goals on the basis of his PPG alone?Alex Oveckin is somehow a mystery in this category.
He scored 72 playoff goals, but 0 SHG. Not even SHA.
He scored 780 goals in regular season, but only 5 SHG (+ 1 SHA).
2021/2022 - 1 SHG
2008/2009 - 1 SHG
2005/2006 - 3 SHG
Why didnt they use his speed?
Just to clarify this: Edmonton did not "abuse" the 4-on-4 situation. They did nothing untoward. (People on here have argued that the Oilers tried to intentionally take penalties, which is nonsense.) They were just really good at 4-on-4 because of Gretzky-Coffey and whoever.Wasn't it Montreal back in the day that caused the rule change to where a PPG ends a 2min minor? Those guys used to score multiple PPGs on a 2min PP.
Then Edmonton had the rules changed to offsetting penalties not going to 4on4 because they'd abuse the shit out of that. At least the 4on4 came back at some point.
I've always said: The Canucks should really be called "The Vancouver Swedes". ; )I was surprised to see Markus Näslund being the top scorer for VAN seven seasons in a row, starting as early as 1998-99. It was in 2002-03 that he won the Ted Lindsay award, and I assumed others would have been the leading VAN scorers up until say 2000-01 or so, which was the year his scoring numbers started to go up to above 1 point per game. (The internal scoring competition wasn't great in 1998-99 or 1999-2000.)
Vancouver actually had a very long string of European scoring leaders.
Bure, Bure, Bure, Mogilny, Mogilny, Bure (at no season were both top-2 at the same time)
Markus Näslund x 7
Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Henrik, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik (all 10 seasons one twin"won" while the other were 2nd)
Then came Bo Horvat!
So... 6 x Russians, 7 x Näslund. 10 x Sedin.
That's 23 seasons in a row of a European leading the team in scoring.
17 seasons in a row a Swede lead the team.
And 10 times in a row a Swedish twin lead the team.
Obviously there are many long sequences of a Canadian player leading his team in scoring. What might be the "record"?
I was surprised to see Markus Näslund being the top scorer for VAN seven seasons in a row, starting as early as 1998-99. It was in 2002-03 that he won the Ted Lindsay award, and I assumed others would have been the leading VAN scorers up until say 2000-01 or so, which was the year his scoring numbers started to go up to above 1 point per game. (The internal scoring competition wasn't great in 1998-99 or 1999-2000.)
Vancouver actually had a very long string of European scoring leaders.
Bure, Bure, Bure, Mogilny, Mogilny, Bure (at no season were both top-2 at the same time)
Markus Näslund x 7
Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Henrik, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik (all 10 seasons one twin"won" while the other were 2nd)
Then came Bo Horvat!
So... 6 x Russians, 7 x Näslund. 10 x Sedin.
That's 23 seasons in a row of a European leading the team in scoring.
17 seasons in a row a Swede lead the team.
And 10 times in a row a Swedish twin lead the team.
Obviously there are many long sequences of a Canadian player leading his team in scoring. What might be the "record"?
The Canucks also had Europeans lead for half of the 1980s: 1981-82 (Thomas Gradin, Sweden); 1983-84 and 1984-85 (Patrik Sundstrom, Sweden); and 1985-86 and 1988-89 (Petri Skriko, Finland). Those three also usually placed near the top in the other years as well.
Your post reminded me of this statistical deep-dive I did (with help from a few other posters) a few years ago. It's every player since expansion who recorded 30 or more scoring points in one regular season calendar month.Gradin also led in 80-81.
Another interesting tidbit from Canucks history:
In March 1983, the line of Darcy Rota-Gradin-Stan Smyl was on fire. The trio racked up 88 points in 16 games and ended up 2-4 on the month's leader board, with Gretzky at 36 PTS, Smyl 31, Rota 30, Gradin 27, and Marcel Dionne rounding off the top 5 with 25. Rota had 15 G (tied with Gretzky and Bossy) and Smyl had 21 A (tied with Gretzky). The Canucks scored 76 goals that month, 25% of their season GF total, and went 9-4-3.
Smyl set the team points record at 88 and was the first Canuck to crack the NHL Top 20, and Rota set the team goals record with 42 and ended up 19th in the league for goals, and Gradin hit #19 overall for assists.
Interestingly, while Gradin and Smyl had been regular linemates at that point since the 78-79 season, Rota only joined the duo as their regular left winger for the last month of the season, and would remain there thru the next season. Halfway through the year, Gradin-Smyl's traditional partner Curt Fraser was dealt to the Hawks for Tony Tanti, and Rota's partner in crime on three teams Ivan Boldirev was shipped off to Detroit for Mark Kirton. Roger Neilson had been doing a lot of line juggling right before this trio clicked and went on a tear down the stretch.
Always cool to see Smyl, who was my favorite player, rank as a historical outlier in putting up one of the highest scoring months ever.
Samorukov was just traded to St. Louis so that's what his career stats with the Oilers looks like.Oilers D Dmitri Samorukov played his first NHL game last night and finished with -2 and 2:28 TOI, and was sent back to AHL after the game. So most likely he'll have -1 per 1:14 TOI for a while until he gets more games.