Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)

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Håkan Loob scored 26 goals in 73 NHL playoff games. 8 of those goals were shorthanded, which puts him in a tie for 4th all-time in playoff SHG, behind only Messier, Gretzky, and Kurri. Loob only scored 9 SHG in 450 regular season games.

Peter Bondra scored 32 SHG in the regular season but never scored a shorthanded goal in 80 playoff games.

Alex Oveckin is somehow a mystery in this category.

He scored 72 playoff goals, but 0 SHG. Not even SHA.

He scored 780 goals in regular season, but only 5 SHG (+ 1 SHA).
2021/2022 - 1 SHG
2008/2009 - 1 SHG
2005/2006 - 3 SHG

Why didnt they use his speed?
 

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Alex Oveckin is somehow a mystery in this category.

He scored 72 playoff goals, but 0 SHG. Not even SHA.

He scored 780 goals in regular season, but only 5 SHG (+ 1 SHA).
2021/2022 - 1 SHG
2008/2009 - 1 SHG
2005/2006 - 3 SHG

Why didnt they use his speed?
He barely comes off the ice on a PP (which is why he holds the PPG record) and if he also played the PK he'd have much less speed. How close is he to leading in overall special teams goals on the basis of his PPG alone?

Spot checking the top goal scorers, it looks like Ovechkin has the most special teams goals with 290. Brett Hull looks to be #2 with 285.
 

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To start the 1988-89 season, Rob Brown scored on 15 of the first 34 shots on net he took. Thus, at the 16-game mark, his shooting percentage was 44.1%.

(By season's end, Brown had fallen to 29%, but this was still the highest in the NHL.)
 

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Some notable defencemen scoring feats, divided into roughly 1/2 seasons:

In the final 40 games of 1970-71, Bobby Orr scored 77 points and went +78. (That's a half-season of playing at a 154-point, +156 pace... on defence.)

In the first 40 games of 1974-75, Bobby Orr scored 75 points and went +48. (That's a half-season of playing at a 150 point, +96 pace.)

In his final 40 games of 1981-82, Doug Wilson scored 25 goals (a 50-goal pace).

In his final 40 games of 1983-84, Paul Coffey scored 73 points (a 146-point pace).

In his final 40 games of 1985-86, Paul Coffey scored 31 goals (!) and 78 points (a 62-goal, 156-point pace).

In the first 40 games of 1988-89, Steve Duchesne scored 47 points and was +37. (In the latter 40 games, he was -6.)

In the final 40 games of 1990-91, Ray Bourque scored 60 points.

In the first half of 1992-93, Steve Duchesne (now with Quebec) led all NHL defence in scoring. (The second-half leaders were Bourque / Housley.)

In the latter half of 1993-94, the two leading scoring defencemen were (1) Sergei Zubov and (2) Scott Stevens.

In the last 40 games of the 2008-09 season, Mike Green scored 21 goals.

In the final 40 games of 2021-22, Roman Josi scored 54 points.
 
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In the two seasons 1984-85 and 1985-86, Jari Kurri scored exactly 100 even strength goals (151 games played). [He added 17 more in the playoffs.]

These are the only players (I'm aware of) who have scored 100 even strength goals in back-to-back regular seasons:

115 - Gretzky (1981-82 & 1982-83)

109 - Gretzky (1983-84 & 1984-85)

104 - Gretzky (1980-81 & 1981-82)

102 - Gretzky (1982-83 & 1983-84)
102 - Br. Hull (1989-90 & 1990-91)
102 - Br. Hull (1990-91 & 1991-92)

100 - Kurri (1984-85 & 1985-86)

(Kurri may have done this earlier as well, in 1983-84 & 1984-85, if not for injury. He scored 91 ES goals those two seasons, despite missing 23 games!)

There are historical players, of course, who might/would have done this if the seasons were longer. Maurice Richard in 1943-44 & 1944-45 was pacing for around 110 ES goals if not for minor injury and (mainly) shorter seasons.

Surprisingly, I don't think Bobby Hull would have ever reached 100 ES goals in back to back seasons, even if the seasons were each 10-12 games longer. Of course, scoring was pretty low in the mid-sixties...
 
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During the six playoffs from 1984-89, Mats Näslund of Montreal was the leading non-Edmonton scorer. He scored 88 pts in 91 gp, followed by teammate Bobby Smith with 79 pts in 91 gp. I think Mats Näslund tends to be a bit forgotten.

(Naturally, one can do this kind of cherry picking with many players, making them look good.)
 

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Only two players in NHL history have scored a power-play goal, a short-handed goal, a 5-on-5 goal, and a 4-on-4 goal in the same game:


Mark Messier on Apr. 14/1983 vs Calgary
Mike Ricci on Feb. 14/ 1994 vs San Jose
 

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Is there any statistics, regarding most Goals in one Powerplay?

I mean, you have 5 minutes PP sometimes. Theory says, you can score a lot goals in this time. What is the record?
And did some player scored more than 1 goal?
 

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Wasn't it Montreal back in the day that caused the rule change to where a PPG ends a 2min minor? Those guys used to score multiple PPGs on a 2min PP.

Then Edmonton had the rules changed to offsetting penalties not going to 4on4 because they'd abuse the shit out of that. At least the 4on4 came back at some point.
 

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Wasn't it Montreal back in the day that caused the rule change to where a PPG ends a 2min minor? Those guys used to score multiple PPGs on a 2min PP.

Then Edmonton had the rules changed to offsetting penalties not going to 4on4 because they'd abuse the shit out of that. At least the 4on4 came back at some point.
Just to clarify this: Edmonton did not "abuse" the 4-on-4 situation. They did nothing untoward. (People on here have argued that the Oilers tried to intentionally take penalties, which is nonsense.) They were just really good at 4-on-4 because of Gretzky-Coffey and whoever.

The person who abused this situation was Cliff Fletcher of the Flames, who used cronyism to get NHL GMs to vote to end 4-on-4 (one of the more entertaining aspects of the game), to help The Flames' chances against Edmonton.
 
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I was surprised to see Markus Näslund being the top scorer for VAN seven seasons in a row, starting as early as 1998-99. It was in 2002-03 that he won the Ted Lindsay award, and I assumed others would have been the leading VAN scorers up until say 2000-01 or so, which was the year his scoring numbers started to go up to above 1 point per game. (The internal scoring competition wasn't great in 1998-99 or 1999-2000.)

Vancouver actually had a very long string of European scoring leaders.
Bure, Bure, Bure, Mogilny, Mogilny, Bure (at no season were both top-2 at the same time)
Markus Näslund x 7
Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Henrik, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik (all 10 seasons one twin"won" while the other were 2nd)

Then came Bo Horvat!

So... 6 x Russians, 7 x Näslund. 10 x Sedin.
That's 23 seasons in a row of a European leading the team in scoring.
17 seasons in a row a Swede lead the team.
And 10 times in a row a Swedish twin lead the team. :)


Obviously there are many long sequences of a Canadian player leading his team in scoring. What might be the "record"?
 

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I was surprised to see Markus Näslund being the top scorer for VAN seven seasons in a row, starting as early as 1998-99. It was in 2002-03 that he won the Ted Lindsay award, and I assumed others would have been the leading VAN scorers up until say 2000-01 or so, which was the year his scoring numbers started to go up to above 1 point per game. (The internal scoring competition wasn't great in 1998-99 or 1999-2000.)

Vancouver actually had a very long string of European scoring leaders.
Bure, Bure, Bure, Mogilny, Mogilny, Bure (at no season were both top-2 at the same time)
Markus Näslund x 7
Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Henrik, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik (all 10 seasons one twin"won" while the other were 2nd)

Then came Bo Horvat!

So... 6 x Russians, 7 x Näslund. 10 x Sedin.
That's 23 seasons in a row of a European leading the team in scoring.
17 seasons in a row a Swede lead the team.
And 10 times in a row a Swedish twin lead the team. :)


Obviously there are many long sequences of a Canadian player leading his team in scoring. What might be the "record"?
I've always said: The Canucks should really be called "The Vancouver Swedes". ; )
 

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I was surprised to see Markus Näslund being the top scorer for VAN seven seasons in a row, starting as early as 1998-99. It was in 2002-03 that he won the Ted Lindsay award, and I assumed others would have been the leading VAN scorers up until say 2000-01 or so, which was the year his scoring numbers started to go up to above 1 point per game. (The internal scoring competition wasn't great in 1998-99 or 1999-2000.)

Vancouver actually had a very long string of European scoring leaders.
Bure, Bure, Bure, Mogilny, Mogilny, Bure (at no season were both top-2 at the same time)
Markus Näslund x 7
Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik, Henrik, Henrik, Daniel, Henrik (all 10 seasons one twin"won" while the other were 2nd)

Then came Bo Horvat!

So... 6 x Russians, 7 x Näslund. 10 x Sedin.
That's 23 seasons in a row of a European leading the team in scoring.
17 seasons in a row a Swede lead the team.
And 10 times in a row a Swedish twin lead the team. :)


Obviously there are many long sequences of a Canadian player leading his team in scoring. What might be the "record"?

The Canucks also had Europeans lead for half of the 1980s: 1981-82 (Thomas Gradin, Sweden); 1983-84 and 1984-85 (Patrik Sundstrom, Sweden); and 1985-86 and 1988-89 (Petri Skriko, Finland). Those three also usually placed near the top in the other years as well.
 
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I just realized that Martin Gelinas scored 26 goals and 46 points in his final 39 games of the 1996-97 season. From Jan 20 on, he was 3rd in goals and 6th in points in the league, far ahead of any other Canuck. Gelinas only topped 46 points in 3 other full seasons of his 20 year career.


What happened in this half season that he caught fire? And why didn’t it continue? He started the next season with 8 points in 24 games before an injury and a trade out of Vancouver.
 

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The Canucks also had Europeans lead for half of the 1980s: 1981-82 (Thomas Gradin, Sweden); 1983-84 and 1984-85 (Patrik Sundstrom, Sweden); and 1985-86 and 1988-89 (Petri Skriko, Finland). Those three also usually placed near the top in the other years as well.

Gradin also led in 80-81.

Another interesting tidbit from Canucks history:

In March 1983, the line of Darcy Rota-Gradin-Stan Smyl was on fire. The trio racked up 88 points in 16 games and ended up 2-4 on the month's leader board, with Gretzky at 36 PTS, Smyl 31, Rota 30, Gradin 27, and Marcel Dionne rounding off the top 5 with 25. Rota had 15 G (tied with Gretzky and Bossy) and Smyl had 21 A (tied with Gretzky). The Canucks scored 76 goals that month, 25% of their season GF total, and went 9-4-3.

Smyl set the team points record at 88 and was the first Canuck to crack the NHL Top 20, and Rota set the team goals record with 42 and ended up 19th in the league for goals, and Gradin hit #19 overall for assists.

Interestingly, while Gradin and Smyl had been regular linemates at that point since the 78-79 season, Rota only joined the duo as their regular left winger for the last month of the season, and would remain there thru the next season. Halfway through the year, Gradin-Smyl's traditional partner Curt Fraser was dealt to the Hawks for Tony Tanti, and Rota's partner in crime on three teams Ivan Boldirev was shipped off to Detroit for Mark Kirton. Roger Neilson had been doing a lot of line juggling right before this trio clicked and went on a tear down the stretch.

Always cool to see Smyl, who was my favorite player, rank as a historical outlier in putting up one of the highest scoring months ever.
 

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Gradin also led in 80-81.

Another interesting tidbit from Canucks history:

In March 1983, the line of Darcy Rota-Gradin-Stan Smyl was on fire. The trio racked up 88 points in 16 games and ended up 2-4 on the month's leader board, with Gretzky at 36 PTS, Smyl 31, Rota 30, Gradin 27, and Marcel Dionne rounding off the top 5 with 25. Rota had 15 G (tied with Gretzky and Bossy) and Smyl had 21 A (tied with Gretzky). The Canucks scored 76 goals that month, 25% of their season GF total, and went 9-4-3.

Smyl set the team points record at 88 and was the first Canuck to crack the NHL Top 20, and Rota set the team goals record with 42 and ended up 19th in the league for goals, and Gradin hit #19 overall for assists.

Interestingly, while Gradin and Smyl had been regular linemates at that point since the 78-79 season, Rota only joined the duo as their regular left winger for the last month of the season, and would remain there thru the next season. Halfway through the year, Gradin-Smyl's traditional partner Curt Fraser was dealt to the Hawks for Tony Tanti, and Rota's partner in crime on three teams Ivan Boldirev was shipped off to Detroit for Mark Kirton. Roger Neilson had been doing a lot of line juggling right before this trio clicked and went on a tear down the stretch.

Always cool to see Smyl, who was my favorite player, rank as a historical outlier in putting up one of the highest scoring months ever.
Your post reminded me of this statistical deep-dive I did (with help from a few other posters) a few years ago. It's every player since expansion who recorded 30 or more scoring points in one regular season calendar month.

(The parenthetical is games played, goals, assists, and plus/minus):


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FROM OCTOBER 1967 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


1967-68
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1967-69
31 Phil Esposito -- January 1969 (14GP: 9G, 22A +20)
1969-70
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1970-71
31 Phil Esposito -- December 1970 (14GP: 19G, 12A +10)
31 Bobby Orr -- March 1971 (15GP: 8G, 23A +26)
1971-72
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1972-73
32 Phil Esposito -- March 1973 (15GP: 15G, 17A +6)
1973-74
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1974-75

30 Phil Esposito -- December 1974 (13GP: 15G, 16A +3)
35 Bobby Clarke -- March 1975 (15GP: 7G, 28A +24)
30 Rick MacLeish -- March 1975 (15GP: 13G, 17A +16)
1975-76
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1976-77

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1977-78
31 Bryan Trottier -- November 1977 (15GP: 14G, 17A +18)
30 Guy Lafleur -- February 1978 (13GP: 9G, 21A +15)
1978-79
36 Bryan Trottier -- December 1978 (14GP: 16G, 20A +26)
1979-80
30 Wayne Gretzky -- March 1980 (13GP: 14G, 16A +8)
1980-81
35 Wayne Gretzky -- January 1981 (14GP: 10G, 25A +11)
31 Kent Nilsson -- January 1981 (16GP: 10G, 21A +6)
30 Marcel Dionne -- January 1981 (15GP: 15G, 15A +5)
30 Wayne Gretzky -- February 1981 (14GP: 15G, 15A +14)
34 Wayne Gretzky -- March 1981 (14GP: 11G, 23A +14)
1981-82
37 Wayne Gretzky -- November 1981 (13GP: 18G, 19A +19)
44 Wayne Gretzky -- December 1981 (14GP: 19G, 25A +12)
38 Wayne Gretzky -- January 1982 (15GP: 17G, 21A +14)
35 Wayne Gretzky -- February 1982 (11GP: 15G, 20A +20)
34 Mike Bossy -- February 1982 (14GP: 11G, 23A +21)
32 Bryan Trottier -- February 1982 (14GP: 17G, 15A +23)
30 Wayne Gretzky -- March 1982 (13GP: 10G, 20A +10)
1982-83
35 Wayne Gretzky -- November 1982 (13GP: 12G, 23A +12)
32 Wayne Gretzky -- December 1982 (13GP: 10G, 22A +2)
36 Wayne Gretzky -- January 1983 (15GP: 14G, 22A +11)
36 Wayne Gretzky -- March 1983 (13GP: 15G, 21A +17)
31 Stan Smyl -- March 1983 (16GP: 10G, 21A +7)
30 Darcy Rota -- March 1983 (16GP: 15G, 15A +8)
1983-84
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49 Wayne Gretzky -- November 1983 (14GP: 17G, 32A +32)
36 Jari Kurri -- November 1983 (14GP: 16G, 20A +19)
37 Wayne Gretzky -- December 1983 (13GP: 12G, 25A +8)
30 Bryan Trottier -- December 1983 (14GP: 14G, 16A +22)
40 Wayne Gretzky -- January 1984 (13GP: 19G, 21A +22)
1984-85
30 Wayne Gretzky -- October 1984 (10GP: 11G, 19A +26)
38 Wayne Gretzky -- November 1984 (14GP: 13G, 25A +17)
40 Wayne Gretzky -- December 1984 (12GP: 16G, 24A +21)
30 Jari Kurri -- December 1984 (12GP: 13G, 17A +22)
37 Wayne Gretzky -- January 1985 (15GP: 13G, 24A +18)
1985-86
44 Wayne Gretzky -- December 1985 (14GP: 8G, 36A +16)
43 Wayne Gretzky -- January 1986 (15GP: 12G, 31A +10)
30 Mike Bossy -- January 1986 (13GP: 12G, 18A +9)
33 Wayne Gretzky -- February 1986 (11GP: 7G, 26A +13)
31 Mario Lemieux -- February 1986 (12GP: 13G, 18A -1)
37 Wayne Gretzky -- March 1986 (14GP: 6G, 31A +23)
1986-87
33 Wayne Gretzky -- October 1986 (12GP: 11G, 22A +14)
36 Wayne Gretzky -- December 1986 (13GP: 18G, 18A +18)
35 Wayne Gretzky -- January 1987 (14GP: 10G, 25A +23)
32 Wayne Gretzky -- March 1987 (15GP: 7G, 25A +7)
1987-88
34 Wayne Gretzky -- November 1987 (13GP: 11G, 23A +13)
32 Steve Yzerman -- December 1987 (15GP: 12G, 20A +12)
35 Mario Lemieux -- January 1988 (16GP: 17G, 18A +6)
38 Wayne Gretzky -- March 1988 (14GP: 5G, 33A +9)
36 Mario Lemieux -- March 1988 (14GP: 11G, 25A +9)
32 Hakan Loob -- March 1988 (14GP: 15G, 17A +16)
1988-89
38 Mario Lemieux -- October 1988 (11GP: 16G, 22A +14)
31 Wayne Gretzky -- November 1988 (14GP: 10G, 21A +5)
30 Steve Yzerman -- November 1988 (13GP: 17G, 13A +15)
30 Bernie Nicholls -- November 1988 (14GP: 17G, 13A +17)
43 Mario Lemieux -- December 1988 (14GP: 19G, 24A +12)
33 Steve Yzerman -- December 1988 (14GP: 12G, 21A 0)
31 Wayne Gretzky -- December 1988 (13GP: 9G, 22A +10)
30 Bernie Nicholls -- December 1988 (14GP: 9G, 21A +7)
33 Mario Lemieux -- January 1989 (12GP: 11G, 22A +6)
30 Mario Lemieux -- March 1989 (13GP: 18G, 12A -1)
1989-90
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1990-91
30 Wayne Gretzky -- January 1991 (13GP: 10G, 20A +5)
30 Adam Oates -- January 1991 (13GP: 6G, 24A +7)
30 Brett Hull -- February 1991 (13GP: 17G, 13A, +4)
30 Wayne Gretzky -- February 1991 (14GP: 5G, 25A +9)
30 Adam Oates -- February 1991 (14GP: 7G, 23A -2)
33 Wayne Gretzky -- March 1991 (14GP: 4G, 29A +8)
1991-92
37 Mario Lemieux -- December 1991 (14GP: 11G, 26A +6)
36 Pat Lafontaine -- January 1992 (14GP: 19G, 17A +6)
31 Luc Robitaille -- February 1992 (15GP: 16G, 15A +3
30 Wayne Gretzky -- February 1992 (14GP: 8G, 22A +6)
36 Mario Lemieux -- March 1992 (13GP: 12G, 24A +9)
1992-93
36 Mario Lemieux -- October 1992 (11GP: 16G, 20A +8)
30 Pat Lafontaine -- October 1992 (11GP: 10G, 20A, +4)
36 Mario Lemieux -- December 1992 (12GP: 8G, 28A +11)
37 Mario Lemieux -- March 1993 (13GP: 18G, 19A +12)
1993-94
30 Pavel Bure -- March 1994 (16GP: 19G, 11A +5)
1995 work-stoppage season
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1995-96
32 Mario Lemieux -- November 1995 (11GP: 13G, 19A +7)
30 Jaromir Jagr -- November 1995 (14GP: 13G, 17A, +14)
34 Mario Lemieux -- December 1995 (14GP: 12G, 22A +5)
32 Jaromir Jagr -- December 1995 (14GP: 13G, 19A, +6)
1996-97
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- - - - - - - - - - - - - DEAD PUCK ERA, from OCTOBER 1997 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


1997-98
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1998-99
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1999-00
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2000-01
31 Jaromir Jagr -- March 2001 (15GP: 15G, 16A +7)
2001-02
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2002-03
--
2003-04
--
2005-06
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2006-07
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2007-08
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2008-09
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2009-10
--
2010-11
--
2011-12
--
2012-13
--
2013-14
--
2014-15
--
2015-16
--
2016-17
--
2017-18
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2018-19
30 Nikita Kucherov -- December 2018 (14GP: 9G, 21A +7)
2019-20
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2021
--
2021-22
--


NOTES:
-- Wayne Gretzky scored 30+ points in one month an unfathomable 36 times. (He is the only player who did it in 1979-80 and in 1986-87, when he did it four times!) As it has happened 87 times in history, Gretzky by himself did it 41.3% of the time in history.
-- Gretzky and Mario Lemieux are (not surprisingly) the only players since 1979 to scored 40+ points in one month -- Gretzky six times, Lemieux once.
-- Besides Gretzky and Lemieux, Jari Kurri & Pat Lafontaine (each with 36, once each) are the only players to score 35+ points in one month since October 1979.
-- Gretzky scored a staggering, all-time record 49 points in November 1983... while going +32 that same month.
-- Speaking of plus/minus, Mario (twice) and Adam Oates are the only players to achieve the rather unique feat of scoring 30+ points in one month while being a 'minus' at even-strength.
-- Stan Smyl & Darci Rota in 1982-83 must be the most stunning and surprising names on this list.
-- Marcel Dionne missed doing this (again) by one point in 1983-84 and again by one point in 1984-85.
-- Jari Kurri missed by just one point, in December 1985, doing this for a third time.
-- Likewise, Paul Coffey missed by one point in December 1985.
-- Kevin Stevens missed by one point in October 1992.
-- Sergei Fedorov missed by one point in December 1993.
-- By the way, when Teemu Selanne scored his record 20 goals in a calendar month (in 14 games in March 1993), he picked up "only" 7 assists, for 27 points (prior to that, in January 1993, he'd also had 27 points in one month).
-- It's interesting that nobody, as far as I know, scored 30+ points in a month during 1989-90, the only season from 1979 (or earlier) through 1993-94 when this never occurred.
-- Players who have never done this: Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Peter Stastny, Denis Savard, Dale Hawerchuk, Doug Gilmour, Joe Sakic, Alex Mogilny, Sergei Fedorov, Joe Thornton, Alex Ovechkin, Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Connor McDavid.


Unless someone can correct me, the 30-point month has occurred only twice in the past 26 years, once by Jagr at the height of the DPE, and almost four years ago by Kucherov.

I thought for sure McDavid had done this in 2021, but there weren't a lot of months to include and they didn't have many games therein. (He did score 21 points in the 8 games the Oilers played in the season's final month.)

There were a few close calls last season: Draisaitl scored 27 in November 2021. And Patrick Kane and Johnny Gaudreau both scored 26 points in March 2022.
 
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Oilers D Dmitri Samorukov played his first NHL game last night and finished with -2 and 2:28 TOI, and was sent back to AHL after the game. So most likely he'll have -1 per 1:14 TOI for a while until he gets more games.
Samorukov was just traded to St. Louis so that's what his career stats with the Oilers looks like.
 

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In 1980-81 Charlie Simmer of the Los Angeles kings was a first team all star and his linemates Marcel Dionne and Dave Taylor were on the 2nd team. No line has ever swept the post season all star team since

But…

few years earlier Bobby Clarke and Bill Barber were on the first team and Reggie leach was on the second team we’re they actually a line?
 

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