Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)

[The Macho King]

I was surprised to see Glenn Anderson (442) had more career penalty minutes in the playoffs than Chris Chelios (423), which is only remarkable coupled with the fact that Anderson only played 225 games to Chelios' 266. Their regular season PIMs are skewed entirely the other way.

That Anderson is 7th all-time in playoff PIMs is something I never would have guessed...

Anderson played in intense rivalries in the early rounds more than Chelios is my guess. Chelios being a bit of a mercenary probably cooled some tempers.

 

[The Macho King]

Nothing but net! BTW, obviously this was before the invention of the lightbulb. Looks like candles-only lighting in there.

My Best-Carey

I think Stanley Kubrik was directing the broadcast.

 

[hacksaw7]

During the 1985-86 NHL regular season, the New York Rangers had 13 of their games go into OT (back when it was 5 minutes of 5-5, no loser point)

They did not win a single OT contest. 0-7-6. In the 2nd round of the playoffs they would see OT again, and actually win two games (vs Washington) though they lost their 3rd to Roy and the Habs, which for all intents and purposes ended NYR's season (Claude Lemieux OT goal)

 

[frisco]

Dominik Hasek in 1995-96 played 59 games. He led the league in save percentage, goals saved above average, goalie point shares. He finished 8th in Vezina voting.

Mike Bossy scored 15+ goals three straight playoff seasons (17 in each 1981/1982/1983). Only one other player even did this in two consecutive seasons (Mario Lemieux 16 in each 1991/1992).

My Best-Carey

 

[hacksaw7]

Dominik Hasek in 1995-96 played 59 games. He led the league in save percentage, goals saved above average, goalie point shares. He finished 8th in Vezina voting.

Mike Bossy scored 15+ goals three straight playoff seasons (17 in each 1981/1982/1983). Only one other player even did this in two consecutive seasons (Mario Lemieux 16 in each 1991/1992).

My Best-Carey

Incredibly between the deciding game of the 1980 Finals and 5/17/83 (the day they clinched their 4th Cup) Mike Bossy had played in 57 playoff games and scored 52 goals and added 38 assists for 90 points in that stretch. That's absolutely otherworldly clutch production. He was right around 50 in 50 in the playoffs

 

[The Panther]

Because he was never in the conversation for being the best player in the league?

But John MacLean was?

 

[Staniowski]

I was surprised to see Glenn Anderson (442) had more career penalty minutes in the playoffs than Chris Chelios (423), which is only remarkable coupled with the fact that Anderson only played 225 games to Chelios' 266. Their regular season PIMs are skewed entirely the other way.

That Anderson is 7th all-time in playoff PIMs is something I never would have guessed...

Jim Peplinski said that Glenn Anderson was the "toughest" player he played against in his career. I think he meant that Anderson was completely fearless. He was certainly somebody to be feared in the playoffs....very fast, a great goal scorer, and he played like he was care-free and afraid of nothing.

 

[reckoning]

I always thought Anderson was one of the worst offenders in the league when it came to causing goalie interference. I'm not surprised he got a lot of PMs.

 

[The Panther]

The 2011 Cup Final between Boston and Vancouver went seven games, which would normally suggest a fairly close even strength result, with perhaps one team winning due to better special teams.

Bruins' skaters collectively went +56, while Canucks' skaters went -60.

 

[Kahvi]

What is the best win% in playoffs for teams that ended up losing the SC final? Avs are now 13-2, and if they lose the final, in the worst case they'd still have 0.68 w% (13-6 record).

Theoretically 0.78 w% is the best possible, with 15-4 record

 

[pnep]

What is the best win% in playoffs for teams that ended up losing the SC final? Avs are now 13-2, and if they lose the final, in the worst case they'd still have 0.68 w% (13-6 record).

Theoretically 0.78 w% is the best possible, with 15-4 record

2002-03 Mighty Ducks of Anaheim Roster, Stats, Injuries, Scores, Results, Shootouts | Hockey-Reference.com

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Playoffs:
Lost Stanley Cup Final (3-4) to New Jersey Devils
Won Conference Finals (4-0) over Minnesota Wild
Won Conference Semi-Finals (4-2) over Dallas Stars
Won Conference Quarter-Finals (4-0) over Detroit Red Wings

21 Games 15 Wins 6 Loses = 71.43%

 

[Kahvi]

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Check out the latest Mighty Ducks of Anaheim Roster, Stats, Injuries, Scores, Results, Shootouts and more on Hockey-Reference.com

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Playoffs:
Lost Stanley Cup Final (3-4) to New Jersey Devils
Won Conference Finals (4-0) over Minnesota Wild
Won Conference Semi-Finals (4-2) over Dallas Stars
Won Conference Quarter-Finals (4-0) over Detroit Red Wings

21 Games 15 Wins 6 Loses = 71.43%

So if Avs lose in 7 games, the have the exact same record as the Ducks had, with the exact same series results

 

[hacksaw7]

2002-03 Mighty Ducks of Anaheim Roster, Stats, Injuries, Scores, Results, Shootouts | Hockey-Reference.com

Check out the latest Mighty Ducks of Anaheim Roster, Stats, Injuries, Scores, Results, Shootouts and more on Hockey-Reference.com

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Playoffs:
Lost Stanley Cup Final (3-4) to New Jersey Devils
Won Conference Finals (4-0) over Minnesota Wild
Won Conference Semi-Finals (4-2) over Dallas Stars
Won Conference Quarter-Finals (4-0) over Detroit Red Wings

21 Games 15 Wins 6 Loses = 71.43%

That and the 03-04 playoffs were maybe the absolute low point for the NHL. I've never seen worse quality, unexciting hockey being played. Sure you'd get a good game here or there but that Minnesota/Anaheim series really showed how bad things had gotten with the obstruction, conservative defensive minded play, and michelin men goalies

It was very hard to keep loving hockey back then like I did in the 80's and early 90s. Was sad to see such a deterioration of the sport

 

[The Panther]

That and the 03-04 playoffs were maybe the absolute low point for the NHL. I've never seen worse quality, unexciting hockey being played. Sure you'd get a good game here or there but that Minnesota/Anaheim series really showed how bad things had gotten with the obstruction, conservative defensive minded play, and michelin men goalies

It was very hard to keep loving hockey back then like I did in the 80's and early 90s. Was sad to see such a deterioration of the sport

I try not to even remember it. The hockey smelled like ass.

 

[The Panther]

1989-90 to 1993-94 Even-Strength Points-per-Game (min. 150 ES points scored):

1.27 Lemieux
1.03 Gretzky
0.93 Yzerman
0.89 Oates
0.85 Neely
0.83 Lafontaine
0.81 Roberts
0.80 Recchi
0.80 Hull
0.79 Jagr
0.79 Robitaille
0.79 Turgeon
0.78 Sakic
0.76 Messier
0.74 Mogilny
0.74 Gilmour
0.74 Stevens
0.74 Fedorov

 

[Staniowski]

1989-90 to 1993-94 Even-Strength Points-per-Game (min. 150 ES points scored):

1.27 Lemieux
1.03 Gretzky
0.93 Yzerman
0.89 Oates
0.85 Neely
0.83 Lafontaine
0.81 Roberts
0.80 Recchi
0.80 Hull
0.79 Jagr
0.79 Robitaille
0.79 Turgeon
0.78 Sakic
0.76 Messier
0.74 Mogilny
0.74 Gilmour
0.74 Stevens
0.74 Fedorov

Even that doesn't tell the story of Gary Roberts at his best. The first couple of those 5 years were before his real breakout, even though he was playing on an excellent line with Makarov and Nieuwendyk.

When he reached his best - which was around '92 and '93 - he was better at ES than almost anybody....maybe only Lemieux was better, or something like that.

Then the injuries....

 

[The Panther]

Todd Elik's first NHL goal was also the very first NHL goal of the 1990s.

 

[Hockeyholic]

The Montreal Canadiens are the only team to pull off this impressive feat.

1996: Win first two PO games in NY. Proceed to lose the next four (Including three at home).

2006: Win first two PO games in Raleigh. Proceed to lose the next four (Including three at home).

2011: Win first two PO games in Boston. Proceed to lose four of the next five (Including two of three at home).

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

Are there any other examples of players besides Peter Forsberg, who eventually became captain for the franchise that drafted him, but who had made their NHL debut for another franchise?

 

[The Panther]

So, there's this fun link to the NHL's worst single game plus/minuses in history:
which player had worst plus minus in one game

But does anyone know what is the most total goals-against any one skater has been on the ice for in a game?

Conversely, the most total goals-for for any one skater in a game?

 

[sr edler]

A Tampa Bay player's scored 20 or more points in a single playoffs 12 times, but none of those 12 times were by either one of their #1 overall picks Stamkos or Lecavalier (or Hamrlik for that matter). Both Stamkos or Lecavalier's hit 19 at best, as did Fredrik Modin.

N. Kucherov x4
M. St. Louis x2
B. Point x2
B. Richards
T. Johnson
V. Hedman
O. Palat

 

[Laphroaig]

In 1971-72 Dean Prentice became the first player in league history to have 20+ goal seasons with five different clubs. The following year Eddie Shack became the second. Bill Guerin is the current record holder having had 20 goal seasons with seven teams.

 

[reckoning]

I was looking through some old Sabres boxscores and came across the following game: Dec2/1972: Minnesota beat Buffalo 8-6

The interesting part is that Gerry Meehan and Rene Robert both had hat tricks for the Sabres in that game.

Has there ever been another instance of two players on the same team both getting hat tricks in a game that their team lost?

 

[crobro]

I was looking through some old Sabres boxscores and came across the following game: Dec2/1972: Minnesota beat Buffalo 8-6

The interesting part is that Gerry Meehan and Rene Robert both had hat tricks for the Sabres in that game.

Has there ever been another instance of two players on the same team both getting hat tricks in a game that their team lost?

Daryl Sittler did it on his own as did Red Berenson

 

[The Panther]

I was looking through some old Sabres boxscores and came across the following game: Dec2/1972: Minnesota beat Buffalo 8-6

The interesting part is that Gerry Meehan and Rene Robert both had hat tricks for the Sabres in that game.

Has there ever been another instance of two players on the same team both getting hat tricks in a game that their team lost?

That's a great question!!

I thought maybe the Oilers / Maple Leafs had "done" this in the entirely forgettable 11-9 game of shinny won by the Leafs on January 8th, 1986, but in fact not. Gretzky had 3 goals, but Anderson only 2.

Notable, however, in that Gretzky and Kurri each had 6 points, and were collectively +7, and their team lost.