Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)

[reckoning]

Daryl Sittler did it on his own as did Red Berenson

Those would not count, as their teams won those games.

 

[YippieKaey]

Of the top 150 goal scorers in NHL history there have been only nine who have scored at least 15 goals in each NHL season they played in NHL:

Nash (low 15)
Kane (low 15)--Not including this season
Goulet (low 16)
Vanek (low 16)
Tavares (low 19)--Not including this season
Barber (low 20)
Lemaire (low 20)
Ovechkin (low 24)--Not including this season
Bossy (low 38)

My Best-Carey

Ovechkin?

Nvm, saw it adressed

 

[The Panther]

In the 1989-90 regular season, the (otherwise forgettable) Hartford Whalers finished as follows:

On Home-Ice
17th overall (i.e., only four teams were worse)

On the Road
2nd overall (only Boston was better)


That's utterly bizarre. Is there any comparable team in NHL history...?

 

[The Panther]

I noticed something odd about Steve Yzerman's stats in 1992-93 today...

Scoring Leaders on Home-Ice
21st place - Yzerman, 53 points
(he finished behind players like Andreychuk, Housley, Janney)

Scoring Leaders on the Road
1st place - Yzerman, 84 points
(he finished ahead of everyone)


Can anyone explain this?

 

[crobro]

Stan Makita and Bobby Hull we’re both of Slovakian Descent from the same town in Slovakia

So what’s the better Slovak Duo Makita Hull or Peter and Anton Stastny?

 

[alko]

Stan Makita and Bobby Hull we’re both of Slovakian Descent from the same town in Slovakia

Wait. Bobby Hull? How?

 

[crobro]

I’m guessing mothers side

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Roman Josi is currently the only defenseman to hold the single-season points record for a franchise.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Alex Tanguay (with a career high of 29 goals) is one of a small handful of players in NHL history to lead the league in shooting percentage twice. And he had the highest shooting percentage from 2000-2009 (min 100 games).

 

[FerrisRox]

Fifteen different Montreal Canadiens wore #29 after Ken Dryden did.

Has there ever been a player who had his number retired that had *that* many players wear the number after the honoured player retired?

 

[reckoning]

Fifteen different Montreal Canadiens wore #29 after Ken Dryden did.

Has there ever been a player who had his number retired that had *that* many players wear the number after the honoured player retired?

Don't know if it's the record, but by my count 18 different players have worn #19 with the Rangers in the time from when Jean Ratelle was traded to the retirement of the number, with Brad Richards being the most prominent.

 

[crobro]

Back then you had a waiver draft at the beginning of the season. Think expansion draft but you could protect more players.

Does anyone remember what the reaction was in Montreal when the Habs put Serge Savard on the waiver list eventually claimed by winnipeg?

 

[crobro]

Joe Niewendyks cousin is John Van Schipt born in Prince George but left for Holland at 15 to star for the Dutch national soccer team and Ajax eventually becoming manager of the Dutch national soccer team

 

[pnep]

Fifteen different Montreal Canadiens wore #29 after Ken Dryden did.

Has there ever been a player who had his number retired that had *that* many players wear the number after the honoured player retired?

Fifteen ?

17 Players:

GAME *	SEASON	TYPE	POS	PLAYER	JERSEY #	TEAM
2001030216	2001	PO	L	Gino Odjick	29	MTL
2000020135	2000	REG	D	Darryl Shannon	29	MTL
1999021052	1999	REG	R	Jim Cummins	29	MTL
1998021044	1998	REG	D	Brett Clark	29	MTL
1996020202	1996	REG	L	Shayne Corson	29	MTL
1995020516	1995	REG	D	Yves Racine	29	MTL
1992030314	1992	PO	C	Jesse Belanger	29	MTL
1990020658	1990	REG	L	Patrick Lebeau	29	MTL
1988020778	1988	REG	C	Gilles Thibaudeau	29	MTL
1987020014	1987	REG	D	Gaston Gingras	29	MTL
1984030217	1984	PO	C	Ron Flockhart	29	MTL
1984020110	1984	REG	C	John Chabot	29	MTL
1982030123	1982	PO	C	John Newberry	29	MTL
1982020573	1982	REG	C	Doug Wickenheiser	29	MTL
1981020652	1981	REG	D	David Orleski	29	MTL
1981020501	1981	REG	G	Mark Holden	29	MTL
1980020392	1980	REG	G	Richard Wamsley	29	MTL

* - last Player game

 

[pnep]

Has there ever been a player who had his number retired that had *that* many players wear the number after the honoured player retired?

Sid Abel?

number 12 retired April 29, 1995


43 Players:

GAME *	SEASON	TYPE	POS	PLAYER	JERSEY #	TEAM
1994020582	1994	REG	L	Bob Errey	12	DET
1994020223	1994	REG	C	Mike Sillinger	12	DET
1992020604	1992	REG	C	James Carson	12	DET
1990020574	1990	REG	R	Sheldon Kennedy	12	DET
1990020145	1990	REG	D	Brad McCrimmon	12	DET
1989020134	1989	REG	L	Adam Graves	12	DET
1986020736	1986	REG	C	William Carroll	12	DET
1985020188	1985	REG	C	Adam Oates	12	DET
1984030163	1984	PO	C	Ivan Boldirev	12	DET
1982020412	1982	REG	R	Thomas Rowe	12	DET
1981020837	1981	REG	R	Theodore Nolan	12	DET
1981020258	1981	REG	C	Brent Peterson	12	DET
1980020411	1980	REG	L	Loran Thompson	12	DET
1977020232	1977	REG	C	Fern LeBlanc	12	DET
1977020025	1977	REG	C	Jean-Paul Leblanc	12	DET
1975020173	1975	REG	C	Bryan Hextall Jr.	12	DET
1974020715	1974	REG	C	Marcel Dionne	12	DET
1973020621	1973	REG	L	Danny Gruen	12	DET
1973020417	1973	REG	L	Garnet Bailey	12	DET
1972020384	1972	REG	C	William Hogaboam	12	DET
1972020274	1972	REG	R	Bob Cook	12	DET
1971020543	1971	REG	C	Henry Boucha	12	DET
1971020344	1971	REG	D	Randy Manery	12	DET
1971020195	1971	REG	L	Ab McDonald	12	DET
1970020543	1970	REG	C	Tom Miller	12	DET
1970020344	1970	REG	C	Bruce MacGregor	12	DET
1965020150	1965	REG	L	Ron Murphy	12	DET
1963030217	1963	PO	R	John MacMillan	12	DET
1963030212	1963	PO	C	Bob Dillabough	12	DET
1963030211	1963	PO	C	Alex Faulkner	12	DET
1963020167	1963	REG	C	Howie Menard	12	DET
1963020146	1963	REG	L	Paul Henderson	12	DET
1963020108	1963	REG	C	Pit Martin	12	DET
1961020208	1961	REG	L	Val Fonteyne	12	DET
1958020209	1958	REG	C	Stu McNeill	12	DET
1958020128	1958	REG	C	Gene Achtymichuk	12	DET
1958020073	1958	REG	R	Chuck Holmes	12	DET
1958020021	1958	REG	R	Dunc Fisher	12	DET
1957030114	1957	PO	L	Tony Leswick	12	DET
1957020144	1957	REG	C	Metro Prystai	12	DET
1957020084	1957	REG	R	Bill Dineen	12	DET
1955020021	1955	REG	L	Ed Sandford	12	DET
1954030217	1954	PO	C	Glen Skov	12	DET
1951030214	1951	PO	C	Sid Abel	12	DET

* - last Player game

 

[Robert Gordon Orr]

Stan Makita and Bobby Hull we’re both of Slovakian Descent from the same town in Slovakia

So what’s the better Slovak Duo Makita Hull or Peter and Anton Stastny?

That is incorrect. The Hulls (Bobby, Dennis and Brett) has no Slovak roots at all.
Their roots are English through and through.
Bobby's paternal grandparents were both natives of Leicester, England, where they also married in 1896.
From Bobby's maternal side they were all from Canada (coming from England in the 1700s).

 

[FerrisRox]

Fifteen ?

17 Players:

GAME *	SEASON	TYPE	POS	PLAYER	JERSEY #	TEAM
2001030216	2001	PO	L	Gino Odjick	29	MTL
2000020135	2000	REG	D	Darryl Shannon	29	MTL
1999021052	1999	REG	R	Jim Cummins	29	MTL
1998021044	1998	REG	D	Brett Clark	29	MTL
1996020202	1996	REG	L	Shayne Corson	29	MTL
1995020516	1995	REG	D	Yves Racine	29	MTL
1992030314	1992	PO	C	Jesse Belanger	29	MTL
1990020658	1990	REG	L	Patrick Lebeau	29	MTL
1988020778	1988	REG	C	Gilles Thibaudeau	29	MTL
1987020014	1987	REG	D	Gaston Gingras	29	MTL
1984030217	1984	PO	C	Ron Flockhart	29	MTL
1984020110	1984	REG	C	John Chabot	29	MTL
1982030123	1982	PO	C	John Newberry	29	MTL
1982020573	1982	REG	C	Doug Wickenheiser	29	MTL
1981020652	1981	REG	D	David Orleski	29	MTL
1981020501	1981	REG	G	Mark Holden	29	MTL
1980020392	1980	REG	G	Richard Wamsley	29	MTL

* - last Player game

I didn't have Corson or Wickenheiser on the list. They must have worn it for just a single game before switching to #27 and #25.

 

[pnep]

I didn't have Corson or Wickenheiser on the list. They must have worn it for just a single game before switching to #27 and #25.

Wickenheiser - 1 game (February 6, 1983)
Corson - 6 games (October 30, 1996 - November 9, 1996)

 

[FerrisRox]

Wickenheiser - 1 game (February 6, 1983)
Corson - 6 games (October 30, 1996 - November 9, 1996)

I know Corson's usually #27 was being worn by David Wilkie and once the road trip was over, Wilkie switched to #3 and Corson to #27.... but why would Wickenheiser, years into his career, switch for one game?

 

[frisco]

The first four times Paul Coffey was traded his old team immediately went to the Stanley Cup Finals four times and three times won the Cup:

1987-88 Oilers-Won Cup
1991-92 Penguins-Won Cup
1992-93 Kings-Lost Cup Finals
1996-97 Redwings-Won Cup (and the year after)

Coffey obviously played on the Cup winners in Edmonton before he was dealt. Same with Pittsburgh in 1991.

My Best-Carey

 

[McGarnagle]

Fifteen different Montreal Canadiens wore #29 after Ken Dryden did.

Has there ever been a player who had his number retired that had *that* many players wear the number after the honoured player retired?

25 Bruins wore #22 after Willie O'Ree before they decided to retire it for clout last year.

Willie O'Ree 1961

Irv Spencer 1963

Bill Knibbs 1965

Bob Dillabough 1966-1967

Grant Erickson 1969

Bill Lesuk 1969

Jim Lorentz 1969-1970

Tom Webster 1969

Ivan Boldirev 1971-1972

Chris Oddleifson 1973-1974

Rick Adduono 1976

Brad Park 1976-1983

Mike Gillis 1984

Butch Goring 1985

Michael Thelvén 1986-1990

Bob Beers 1992

Jozef Stümpel 1993-1995

Rick Tocchet 1996-1997

Ken Baumgartner 1998-1999

Mikko Eloranta 2000-2002

Dennis Bonvie 2002

Michal Grosek 2003-2004

Brian Leetch 2006

Shean Donovan 2007

Shawn Thornton 2008-2014

Peter Cehlarik 2019-2020

 

[pnep]

25 Bruins wore #22 after Willie O'Ree before they decided to retire it for clout last year.

31 Players:

GAME *	SEASON	TYPE	POS	PLAYER	JERSEY #	TEAM
2019020248​	2019​	REG	L	Peter Cehlarik	22​	BOS
2013030217​	2013​	PO	L	Shawn Thornton	22​	BOS
2006021218​	2006​	REG	R	Shean Donovan	22​	BOS
2005021204​	2005​	REG	D	Brian Leetch	22​	BOS
2003021222​	2003​	REG	L	Michal Grosek	22​	BOS
2001030111​	2001​	PO	R	Dennis Bonvie	22​	BOS
2001020123​	2001​	REG	L	Mikko Eloranta	22​	BOS
1998030222​	1998​	PO	L	Kenneth Baumgartner	22​	BOS
1996020791​	1996​	REG	R	Rick Tocchet	22​	BOS
1995020606​	1995​	REG	L	Jozef Stumpel	22​	BOS
1991030121​	1991​	PO	D	Bob Beers	22​	BOS
1989020276​	1989​	REG	D	Michael Thelven	22​	BOS
1984030115​	1984​	PO	C	Robert Goring	22​	BOS
1983030113​	1983​	PO	L	Michael Gillis	22​	BOS
1982030316​	1982​	PO	D	Brad Park	22​	BOS
1973030215​	1973​	PO	C	Douglas Gibson	22​	BOS
1973020409​	1973​	REG	C	Christopher Oddleifson	22​	BOS
1971020117​	1971​	REG	C	Ivan Boldirev	22​	BOS
1969030314​	1969​	PO	C	Jim Lorentz	22​	BOS
1968030215​	1968​	PO	R	William Lesuk	22​	BOS
1968030214​	1968​	PO	L	Garnet Bailey	22​	BOS
1968020358​	1968​	REG	R	Steve Atkinson	22​	BOS
1968020231​	1968​	REG	L	Grant Erickson	22​	BOS
1968020183​	1968​	REG	R	Thomas Webster	22​	BOS
1966020209​	1966​	REG	C	Bob Dillabough	22​	BOS
1964020210​	1964​	REG	C	Bill Knibbs	22​	BOS
1963020200​	1963​	REG	D	Don Awrey	22​	BOS
1963020194​	1963​	REG	C	Ron Schock	22​	BOS
1963020118​	1963​	REG	L	Ted Irvine	22​	BOS
1962020210​	1962​	REG	D	Irv Spencer	22​	BOS
1961020209​	1961​	REG	R	Dick Meissner	22​	BOS
1960020210​	1960​	REG	L	Willie O'Ree	22​	BOS

* - last Player game

 

[overpass]

Håkan Loob scored 26 goals in 73 NHL playoff games. 8 of those goals were shorthanded, which puts him in a tie for 4th all-time in playoff SHG, behind only Messier, Gretzky, and Kurri. Loob only scored 9 SHG in 450 regular season games.

Peter Bondra scored 32 SHG in the regular season but never scored a shorthanded goal in 80 playoff games.

 

[reckoning]

Poor Brad Park. He has a Hall of Fame calibre career for two different franchises, and in both cases the number is retired for somebody else.

 

[sr edler]

Messier once got a 1st place vote for the Byng. This was in his last season with NYR before leaving for VAN. Perhaps NYR saw that vote and realized he'd gotten all nice and soft, and let him go.

Loob only scored 9 SHG in 450 regular season games.

I was too young to follow his Calgary career, but 8 of those came in the same season so I guess it was probably just a case of usage. I remember Loob from the SEL being very effective short-handed, playing keep away. Quite shifty skater and good with the puck.

You can see this with Kent Nilsson in NA too. 16 short-handed goals concentrated over 3 consecutive seasons, and nothing before (3 seasons) or after (2 seasons).