Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)

[The Panther]

With his assist last night, Connor McDavid tied Paul Coffey for 5th-place on the list of most assists in Oilers' history. He'll likely pass Glenn Anderson this season, too. As of October 20th, 2022:
1086 - Gretzky
642 - Messier
569 - Kurri
489 - Anderson
460 - McDavid

Interestingly, McDavid's current career total would also be 5th in Maple Leafs' history and (in a couple of weeks) will very soon be enough for 5th in Canadiens' history, also. (He would only be 8th in Red Wings' history and 9th in Blackhawks' and Bruins' history.)

 

[alko]

All 3 gwg in Wednesday games were score by a defensman. It pretty rare in NHL.

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

I just read on instagram that Rasmus Dahlin with goals in three games straight has tied the record for “longest season opening goal streak by a defenseman”. Apparently, Hedman in 2014-15 and Calle Johansson in 1992-93 are the other ones to do it.

Mike Green has the record for the longest goal scoring streak at any point in a season, with eight games and ten goals in 2008-09.

 

[alko]

David Poile - first GM in NHL with 3000 games.

What is amazing, only with 2 franchises: Capitals (1982-1997) and Predators (1998 - counting).

 

[Hockey Outsider]

I think these are the only nine players to score 1,400+ points for a single franchise:

1. Gordie Howe (1,809)
2. Steve Yzerman (1,755)
3. Mario Lemieux (1,723)
4. Wayne Gretzky (1,669)
5. Joe Sakic (1,641)
6. Ray Bourque (1,506)
7. Stan Mikita (1,467)
8. Sidney Crosby (1,420)
9. Alex Ovechkin (1,417)

 

[Kahvi]

Ryan Poehling played one game in his first NHL season and scored a hattrick, putting him #1 on the NHL list of best seasons based on PPG (tied) and GPG

Elite Prospects - NHL Stats All-time season

All-time/historical regular season stats and leaders per season for NHL, including top goal scorers, most games played, PPG leaders and more.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[MarkusKetterer]

This can’t be right, can it? Surely it must have happened when bench clearing brawls were a thing

 

[MadLuke]

Interestingly, McDavid's current career total would also be 5th in Maple Leafs' history and (in a couple of weeks) will very soon be enough for 5th in Canadiens' history, also. (He would only be 8th in Red Wings' history and 9th in Blackhawks' and Bruins' history.)

And maybe sadly, would be enough to be the most since 1980 for Montreal.

 

[pnep]

This can’t be right, can it? Surely it must have happened when bench clearing brawls were a thing

also

Hartford Whalers - Philadelphia Flyers - Feb 25, 1984 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Hartford Whalers vs. Philadelphia Flyers, Feb 25, 1984 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

Detroit Red Wings - Toronto Maple Leafs - Oct 29, 1977 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Detroit Red Wings vs. Toronto Maple Leafs, Oct 29, 1977 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

and

Chicago Blackhawks - Detroit Red Wings - Mar 15, 1940 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Chicago Blackhawks vs. Detroit Red Wings, Mar 15, 1940 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

g + a + major

 

[MarkusKetterer]

also

Hartford Whalers - Philadelphia Flyers - Feb 25, 1984 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Hartford Whalers vs. Philadelphia Flyers, Feb 25, 1984 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

Detroit Red Wings - Toronto Maple Leafs - Oct 29, 1977 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Detroit Red Wings vs. Toronto Maple Leafs, Oct 29, 1977 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

and

Chicago Blackhawks - Detroit Red Wings - Mar 15, 1940 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Chicago Blackhawks vs. Detroit Red Wings, Mar 15, 1940 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

g + a + major

I’m gonna trust you here, but the links don’t show penalties. Just scoring. So I can’t see if the thing I posted is actually correct, even though I’m fine being wrong.

EDIT: I’m wrong, and the person I showed is wrong. Although it’s still crazy that that’s happened only four times in NHL history

 

[pnep]

but the links don’t show penalties

?

or

Philadelphia Flyers vs. Hartford Whalers Box Score: February 25, 1984 | Hockey-Reference.com

Get the latest box score updates on the Philadelphia Flyers vs. Hartford Whalers game played on February 25, 1984 on Hockey-Reference.com

www.hockey-reference.com

 

[MarkusKetterer]

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or

Philadelphia Flyers vs. Hartford Whalers Box Score: February 25, 1984 | Hockey-Reference.com

Get the latest box score updates on the Philadelphia Flyers vs. Hartford Whalers game played on February 25, 1984 on Hockey-Reference.com

www.hockey-reference.com

I’m stuck using an IPhone. Sometimes webpages don’t fully load.

 

[Kahvi]

There are several examples of brothers who have played in the NHL, even in the same team at the same time. But how about two brothers who both are goalies? There's also been brothers where the other is goalie and the other skater.
Asking just because I noticed that Carl Lindbom and Olof Lindbom both have been drafted in the last couple of years, of course it's a long way to NHL for both of them

Carl Lindbom - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Carl Lindbom, 2003-05-20 Stockholm, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the AHL with Henderson Silver Knights. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Olof Lindbom - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Olof Lindbom, 2000-07-23 Stockholm, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the Liiga with Pelicans. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

There are several examples of brothers who have played in the NHL, even in the same team at the same. But how about two brothers who both are goalies? There's also been brothers where the other is goalie and the other skater.
Asking just because I noticed that Carl Lindbom and Olof Lindbom both have been drafted in the last couple of years, of course it's a long way to NHL for both of them

Carl Lindbom - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Carl Lindbom, 2003-05-20 Stockholm, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the AHL with Henderson Silver Knights. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Olof Lindbom - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Olof Lindbom, 2000-07-23 Stockholm, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the Liiga with Pelicans. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Pretty interesting topic. I really doubt two brothers have dressed for the same NHL team in one season, as goalie brothers even facing each other from different teams are rare. The only ones I can think of are Ken and Dave Dryden, but I’m sure there’s more.

I began checking the Wikipedia for brothers in the NHL.

Brothers Len and Ken Broderick dressed for at least one game for the Toronto Marlboros junior team in the 1950s, and both had brief NHL stints, but never in the same season. Ken Broderick was the more accomplished of the two with the longer career, and was named best goaltender of the Olympic tournament backstopping Team Canada to a bronze medal in 1962.

If the Wikipedia page is complete, I’m pretty sure the Brodericks and Drydens are the only two brother pairs to make the NHL as goalies.

 

[alko]

But where is Gretzky?

 

[The Panther]

But where is Gretzky?

Excepting one season (1983-84), Gretzky didn't score a lot of goals on the PP.

The guy with by far the longest games/goals streak in Oilers' history is AHL-level plugger, Dave Lumley.

 

[The Panther]

Jaromir Jágr first led an NHL club in scoring in 1993-94, and he last led an NHL club in scoring in 2015-16 --- a span of 22 years. (What's more, both these clubs finished in 1st place in their respective divisions.)

So, Jágr has to be longest gap for this, right? Ones I can come up with:
22 years -- Jágr (1994 / 2016)
19 years -- Howe (1951 / 1970
19 years -- Gretzky (1980 / 1999)
18 years -- M. Lemieux (1985 / 2003)
17 years -- Robitaille (1987 / 2004)
16 years -- Yzerman (1984 / 2000)
16 years -- Crosby (2006 / 2022)
16 years -- Ovechkin (2006 / 2022)
15 years -- Beliveau (1956/1971)
15 years -- Sundin (1993 / 2008)

Who else makes it to the 15-year span??

(Believe it or not, Ray Ferraro was 2 points away, in 1986, from joining the 15-year group.)

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

Jaromir Jágr first led an NHL club in scoring in 1993-94, and he last led an NHL club in scoring in 2015-16 --- a span of 22 years. (What's more, both these clubs finished in 1st place in their respective divisions.)

So, Jágr has to be longest gap for this, right? Ones I can come up with:
22 years -- Jágr (1994 / 2016)
19 years -- Howe (1951 / 1970
19 years -- Gretzky (1980 / 1999)
18 years -- M. Lemieux (1985 / 2003)
17 years -- Robitaille (1987 / 2004)
16 years -- Yzerman (1984 / 2000)
16 years -- Crosby (2006 / 2022)
16 years -- Ovechkin (2006 / 2022)
15 years -- Beliveau (1956/1971)
15 years -- Sundin (1993 / 2008)

Who else makes it to the 15-year span??

(Believe it or not, Ray Ferraro was 2 points away, in 1986, from joining the 15-year group.)

17 years — Joe Sakic (1990/2007)
16 years — Joe Thornton (2000/2016)

Ray Whitney has a 14 year span (1998/2012), but he also has the best p/gp on the Stars in the lockout shortened 2012-13 season: 4 points behind Benn in 9 fewer games.

Kopitar also has a 14 year span (2008/2022) and is still going strong. As of today, however, he’s trailing Fiala on his team by 6 points.

 

[nhlman]

Who else makes it to the 15-year span??

Teemu Selänne with 19 years: first led in 1993 and last in 2012.

Edit: Ron Francis with 19 as well, 1983 to 2002.

 

[The Panther]

 

[MarkusKetterer]

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Stastny >> McDavid confirmed

 

[markymarc1215]

Jeff Toms, fringe NHL AHL player known as a physical guy and not for any touch, once had a hat trick with the Rangers during the 01-02 season on a li e with Lindros and York. That is obscure as anything Ive seen in hockey.

 

[The Panther]

In 1983-84, the Edmonton Oilers' short-handed scoring percentage was 9.3%.

In 2021, the Anaheim Ducks power-play scoring percentage was 8.9%.

 

[markymarc1215]

In the 93-94 season, there was an unusual player in the Top 25 for Goals per Game. AHL'er Brent Grieve, acquired in a trade for minor leaguer Marc Laforge, scored 13 goals in 24 games with the Oilers. That was good enough for .481 goals per game, 25th in the league. The best part...#29 was Wayne Gretzky with .469

 

[The Panther]

In the 93-94 season, there was an unusual player in the Top 25 for Goals per Game. AHL'er Brent Grieve, acquired in a trade for minor leaguer Marc Laforge, scored 13 goals in 24 games with the Oilers. That was good enough for .481 goals per game, 25th in the league. The best part...#29 was Wayne Gretzky with .469

Well, this is a good example of why 24 games should be irrelevant in comparisons of ___-per game.

My general rule for per-game things is a player has to play at least 50% of a season, or 50% of a substantial time period (in a comparison of multiple seasons). But even 50% is being kind of generous.