Oakland A's to play in Sacramento for a few years while Las Vegas stadium is built
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LadyStanley
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A’s for art: Athletics stadium to feature Fisher art collection
Word from multiple sources familiar with John Fisher’s design plans for the future A’s ballpark is that the owner has been talking for months of developing an art program in Las Vegas.
www.reviewjournal.com
Fisher plans to display family art collection in stadium. (Similar to Allegiant Stadium art. I can think that they may want stadium tours as an income stream.)
LadyStanley
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Oakland A’s meet MLB deadline to keep revenue sharing
The Athletics had until Jan. 15 to get a binding agreement for a new stadium deal in place, or MLB planned to remove the team from its revenue sharing system.
www.reviewjournal.com
Met 1/15/24 deadline to have deal in place for new stadium (under threat of losing revenue sharing).
LadyStanley
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Fan's Fest is fan-lead celebration opportunity, not team led. Minor league Stockton Ports sponsoring event.
LadyStanley
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Move not finalized. Rumors that financing having issues.
LadyStanley
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A’s hunt for temporary home continues; is Las Vegas Ballpark on list?
The Oakland Athletics are making site visits as they try to figure out where they will play once their Oakland Coliseum lease is up after the 2024 season.
www.reviewjournal.com
Sacramento, SLC, Reno, Giants' Oracle, Oakland Coliseum and LV Ballpark under consideration. Needs to be finalized well before schedule released in July.
KevFu
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I kinda hope the A's make a deal to play in Sacramento, the Vegas deal falls through and everyone's loving the Sacramento A's and they just say "Why don't we build an MLB stadium HERE?"
LadyStanley
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A’s owner open to selling minority shares of team to Las Vegas investors - The Nevada Independent
The owner of the Oakland A's said he is willing to sell minority shares in the Major League Baseball team ahead of its 2028 move to Las Vegas.
Fisher "considering" local investors to fund stadium (but days he has $$ to fo it without) for minority ownership
Headshot77
We saw him heading straight for the mountains
Nearly 2 months later the renderings never game.
A's to release new renderings of planned Las Vegas baseball stadium
The Oakland Athletics say they will unveil new renderings of a potential stadium in Las Vegas next week.The renderings will be revealed as part of an event on Mnews3lv.com
New renderings coming
The A's make the Coyotes look competent.
PCSPounder
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If it weren’t for the timing of it, I’d venture that this would be considered expansion fodder more than anything. But the timing…
…BTW, my traffic situation will go to poop if this somehow clears all the hurdles.
LadyStanley
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Could the A's Really Disband for Three Seasons Before Landing in Las Vegas?
Recent rumors make sense for John Fisher and nobody else
www.si.com
One low possibility option is for MLB team to go dark for 3 seasons while new park being built. Lots good for owner, but union loses 40 members, etc.
KevFu
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Could the A's Really Disband for Three Seasons Before Landing in Las Vegas?
Recent rumors make sense for John Fisher and nobody else
One low possibility option is for MLB team to go dark for 3 seasons while new park being built. Lots good for owner, but union loses 40 members, etc.
Is that even possible in a 162 games in 185-day season from a schedule making standpoint?
Considering it wouldn't solve anything regarding the gap before the new Vegas ballpark is built, it's definitely expansion fodder.
No, it really isn't. Not just because they wouldn't be able to get enough games in, but because they can't have a team off every day. The NBA, NHL, and MLS can do that. Even the NFL. But MLB can't. Teams play basically 6 days a week. They need an even number of teams. There's a reason every expansion since 1961 has been two teams together (or four in 1969).
KevFu
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Yeah, I'm with you and on top of the whole even numbers thing, and the "basically no."
My brain was going for the actual math problem of it all:
There's 181 playing days to a season (not counting the ASB). Every team has 19 off-days outside the ASB. There's way more individual team off days than playing days; so making a 30-team schedule with "games vs As" are a bye; and schedule no offdays surrounding each teams series with the "Phantom A's" (so that you're adding in 2 extra off-days per series, not 3)...
There's totally enough space in the schedule to do that.... if MLB's schedule was balanced.
The complex math problem is "you have to schedule everyone to 162 games... without playing the A's." You have four groups of teams needing more games to play instead of playing the A's.
- 14 teams (NL but not SF) need 3 more games each
- 7 teams (six in the AL East/Central, plus SF) needs 6 more games each.
- 4 teams (in the AL East/Central) need 7 more games each
- 4 teams (AL West) need 13 more games each.
And THAT'S when my head exploded.
ponder719
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KevFu
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The crazy thing is that the A's and Oakland actually were QUITE CLOSE on a Howard Terminal deal.
It was like their owner was so close to the finish line, realized he was about to stay in Oakland for 30 years, and panicked/bolted because he just didn't want to be in Oakland (ahem, sell the team if that's the case).
The Las Vegas project that's been a cocktail napkin theory no where close to the definitive structure of the Howard Terminal project just seems like, tiny, small, half-assed and nonsensical.
The A's site is smaller than the T-Mobile Arena site, and I'm not sure if you know this, but baseball stadiums are WAAAAAAAAAAY bigger than NHL arenas.
I really don't understand how every MLB owner isn't like trying to trap the A's owner into a Donald Sterling situation. The A's going up for sale and staying in Oakland is absolutely the best thing for Major League Baseball.
It was like their owner was so close to the finish line, realized he was about to stay in Oakland for 30 years, and panicked/bolted because he just didn't want to be in Oakland (ahem, sell the team if that's the case).
The Las Vegas project that's been a cocktail napkin theory no where close to the definitive structure of the Howard Terminal project just seems like, tiny, small, half-assed and nonsensical.
The A's site is smaller than the T-Mobile Arena site, and I'm not sure if you know this, but baseball stadiums are WAAAAAAAAAAY bigger than NHL arenas.
I really don't understand how every MLB owner isn't like trying to trap the A's owner into a Donald Sterling situation. The A's going up for sale and staying in Oakland is absolutely the best thing for Major League Baseball.
mouser
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Basic math says it should be possible to create a schedule with 29 teams. 181 days in the season, the league would need 1 and only 1 team idle on at least 162 of those 181 days.
While technically possible, I agree it’s practically impossible. You’d have to eliminate a lot of travel days, plus rebalance the usual divisional and league games.
LadyStanley
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Las Vegas mayor on A's planned relocation to desert: 'They've got to figure out a way to stay in Oakland' - Yahoo Sports
Mayor Carolyn Goodman offered a surprising take on the A's planned move to her city as the sports world descends on Las Vegas.
Clarification on Mayor's statement: in a perfect world, they'd figure out how to stay on Oakland.
LadyStanley
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Rob Manfred says MLB needs to know Oakland A's plan for 2025 home 'in the next few months' - Yahoo Sports
The MLB commissioner said work on the 2025 MLB schedule needs to begin this summer.
Deadline looming
TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
Well….
A’s, Oakland and county officials to meet on Coliseum lease extension
KevFu
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Does Oakland have any reason to say anything BUT "if you're willing to talk about staying in Oakland and doing the Howard Terminal deal, we can talk. But if not, then GTFO" ?
The A's own half the land if they ever want anything there. They would get money from the A's if they used the stadium extra years. The A's have other options too.
Oakland isn't in good enough of a bargaining position to demand an enormous take it or leave it change your entire future plans ultimatum for them to use a terrible stadium for 1-3 more seasons, only to have to use that same terrible stadium an additional 2-4 years after that if they did.
ponder719
M-M-M-Matvei and the Jett
"Leave the team name with the city, and secure an ironclad deal from MLB that we'll get the next expansion team as soon as we find an ownership group, and we'll let you stay as long as you need without tying you down beyond that."
That gives Oakland the As and no John Fisher, so I think they'd be all in for that version.
