Montour @ 7.142 vs Seth Jones @ 7.03

[HockeyVirus]

I don't really understand the Florida Panthers letting Montour walk only to bring in another RD who is arguably worse and spent a first + to do so.

Who do you take between these two players? Did they get an upgrade?

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[hamzarocks]

Id take Jones at 7M over Montour at 7M

I imagine Jones will bounce back now playing on a well structured team with a lot of good support besides him

He should be a 50PT #2D

 

[olli]

I don't really understand the Florida Panthers letting Montour walk only to bring in another RD who is arguably worse and spent a first + to do so.

Who do you take between these two players? Did they get an upgrade?

I’m pretty sure they couldn’t have afforded to keep Montour unless they had let Reinhart walk. Also Montour may have preferred to be closer to family in Seattle. If he’d signed with the panthers at 8 years/5.5M he probably would get more after tax and I’m pretty sure the Panthers would’ve found a way to fit him in at that price. So yeah as odd as it sounds given he had just won a cup in Florida Montour probably preffered to sign with Seattle anyway unless the Panthers were only willing to resign him for a huge discount.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Their games are entirely different.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Between the 2 I’d take Jones at 7.
At the time they couldn’t afford Montour anymore.

 

[Ratsreign]

I don't really understand the Florida Panthers letting Montour walk only to bring in another RD who is arguably worse and spent a first + to do so.

Who do you take between these two players? Did they get an upgrade?

It all comes down to cap space.
Panthers couldn’t re-sign Montour last summer, no cap space. Knight’s cap hit going out makes the deal possible. No one was taking Knight’s contract last summer after he played all year in AHL. Knight’s play this year changed that.

 

[BB88]

I don't really understand the Florida Panthers letting Montour walk only to bring in another RD who is arguably worse and spent a first + to do so.

Who do you take between these two players? Did they get an upgrade?

Because they couldn’t afford it at the time

They re-signed the forwards+ Forlsing and went bargain shopping for defensive depth

 

[10YearsHaveGone]

I think Montour is better overall, so him.

 

[Crow]

Jones has 5 more years and Montour 6 correct? Definitely rather have a year shorter contract on these two 30 year olds.

I’m inclined to take jones on a completely level playing field anyway.

I’m pretty sure they couldn’t have afforded to keep Montour unless they had let Reinhart walk. Also Montour may have preferred to be closer to family in Seattle. If he’d signed with the panthers at 8 years/5.5M he probably would get more after tax and I’m pretty sure the Panthers would’ve found a way to fit him in at that price. So yeah as odd as it sounds given he had just won a cup in Florida Montour probably preffered to sign with Seattle anyway unless the Panthers were only willing to resign him for a huge discount.

Washington doesn’t have state taxes either.

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Obviously it would have been better to keep Montour.

However, the team didn't even have enough cap space to make depth signings above league minimum after re-signing Reinhart -- which is why Lomberg and Stenlund are gone -- so the point is moot.

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

I think either player is essentially a wash on a team at the caliber Florida is. I think Jones is the better dman overall but Montour wins you more games. Florida would be the same beast either way because both players are/were expected to fit into the cats game plan vs a team building around either player.

 

[majormajor]

The evidence for Montour supposedly being better is just overfocusing on Jones' play in Chicago, ignoring how he played before that (including a star turn in the playoffs) or how he might fit in Florida, while focusing on Montour's play last year in Florida and ignoring how he's played in Seattle since (very average).

Taken altogether I think Jones is more appealing. Or at least I'd rather have him for the playoffs. There's more high end there - if he can pull his head out of his ass.

 

[BB88]

I think either player is essentially a wash on a team at the caliber Florida is. I think Jones is the better dman overall but Montour wins you more games. Florida would be the same beast either way because both players are/were expected to fit into the cats game plan vs a team building around either player.

Not that long ago Montour was seen as an obstacle for Florida winning by many (defensively)

Overall throughout their careers Jones has easily been the better (even superior) player and now it’s turn to see how Jones can look under Maurice in that same system that made you write that about Montour

 

[Laus723]

Knight’s salary wasn’t going to allow for a Monty signing, and having just been in the A, no one was going to trade for him. He went on a great run after a rough start and Zito moved him for a needed upgrade at the position.

 

[SatanicToedrag]

A dumb thread premise in the sense already explained. Panthers didn't let Montour walk, there was zero choice. Zero. Now they are in a position to plug that hole.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I don't really understand the Florida Panthers letting Montour walk only to bring in another RD who is arguably worse and spent a first + to do so.

Who do you take between these two players? Did they get an upgrade?

1. Jones is a significant upgrade on Montour.
2. They couldn't afford to keep Montour at the time.

It's really crazy how underrated Jones has become.

 

[olli]

Jones has 5 more years and Montour 6 correct? Definitely rather have a year shorter contract on these two 30 year olds.

I’m inclined to take jones on a completely level playing field anyway.

Washington doesn’t have state taxes either.

wow im surprised, as an ignorant Canadian I thought Washington state was too far north west for that but that sure explains part of it from Montours perspective.