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Oakland A's to play in Sacramento for a few years while Las Vegas stadium is built

MMC said:
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She's not doing much for the safety and well-being for residents of Oakland to begin with. The A's are the only team that really wanted to stay in Oakland and the City of Oakland turned around and threatened to sue them for that effort and then complain about a budget crisis lol. The city will continue to be in this state until a flatlander is elected mayor. These 'Oakland Hills' wannabes and folks need to not be in Oakland's politics.
 
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Hockeyholic said:
I would imagine they won't play in Oakland for a few years before leaving like the Raiders did. Probably best to get away ASAP.

I am looking at A's attendance. They were a dynasty in the 70's and didn't draw well. They never drew 3 million fans in a large market area. I think the support has been a bit overstated. Otherwise, they don't lose the Raiders twice and A's.
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A large number of the A's attendance comes from out of town and places like San Jose. Even back when I went to games with my grandfather in the 70's-2000's it was like that. I think they ended up with somewhere between 2-3 million attendance per season at their high point.

I remember the tail end of the Seals and the truth is the Bay Area just didn't 'get' hockey. While I'm not a Sharks fan, I do have to say that I'm glad the NHL waited until a time it could work and then found a place in the Bay where it would.

Oakland is very much a basketball town. The Warriors could be the worst team period and they were for long stretches and they had no problem selling out what became Oracle.

The Raiders have a very strong presence in Oakland and even today you can't wear certain jerseys in certain parts of Oakland. Ask my brother, who is not a sports fan whatsover, what happened when he wore a Bucs jersey because he 'liked how it looked'.... in Deep East Oakland. It was hilarious how many cars honked and dudes yelled 'TAKE THAT FKIN S#IT OFF!!'. It really could have been worse. But the Raiders always had a strong Oakland fanbase who tailgated with the best of them.
 
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I've proposed that UC Berkeley purchase the Coliseum and nearby arena, renovating the latter into a more intimate venue for an NCAA D1 men's ice hockey team, and reserving the Coliseum site for a new MLB-caliber baseball stadium that can be used by both an Oakland expansion team and Golden Bears baseball, the latter moving out of their current venue which was built in 1933.

So yeah, if Oakland wants any chance of an MLB expansion team, they need help from UC Berkeley.
 
GoldenSeal said:
A large number of the A's attendance comes from out of town and places like San Jose. Even back when I went to games with my grandfather in the 70's-2000's it was like that. I think they ended up with somewhere between 2-3 million attendance per season at their high point.

Oakland is very much a basketball town. The Warriors could be the worst team period and they were for long stretches and they had no problem selling out what became Oracle.
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In my time in the area, it just never occurred to me to consider "out of town, like San Jose."

The Bay Area is different from a lot of places simply because having something in San Jose, San Francisco or Oakland simply isn't an obstacle.

It's not like "Oh, the Copa America tournament is in the US, but it's at the 49ers stadium in Santa Clara, not the Oakland Coliseum. Maybe next time." It's "Copa is coming HERE!"

I went to see Chile pistol-whip Mexico 7-0 in Santa Clara. The Islanders in San Jose, Mets in San Francisco, Knicks in Oakland, Manchester City in San Francisco, NCAA Tournament in Sacramento, IndyCar at Sonoma.... I never considered myself an "out of town fan" at any of those events.
 
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KevFu said:
In my time in the area, it just never occurred to me to consider "out of town, like San Jose."

The Bay Area is different from a lot of places simply because having something in San Jose, San Francisco or Oakland simply isn't an obstacle.

It's not like "Oh, the Copa America tournament is in the US, but it's at the 49ers stadium in Santa Clara, not the Oakland Coliseum. Maybe next time." It's "Copa is coming HERE!"

I went to see Chile pistol-whip Mexico 7-0 in Santa Clara. The Islanders in San Jose, Mets in San Francisco, Knicks in Oakland, Manchester City in San Francisco, NCAA Tournament in Sacramento, IndyCar at Sonoma.... I never considered myself an "out of town fan" at any of those events.
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If you didn't grow up in Oakland, I don't think you'd understand. And you sound like one who is constantly an out of towner through your life, and that's not a knock on you. Most flatlanders don't leave Oakland and we have a very odd way of looking at things and those from outside our city, especially with how those not from here view us and the fact that economic and social gentrification is at war here. I grew up at a time when Oakland had a major rivalry with Richmond and that's a whole lot closer than San Jose. And don't get me started with how we feel about the folks from the "Oakland Hills".

It isn't insomuch how you look at it, its how we look at you, if that makes sense. No offense to you on any level. Travelling is good for the soul.
 
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Two baseball teams play in Oakland today. One kept its promises.

It’s hard to imagine any of those questions getting even partially answered on Tuesday, or even throughout the Ballers’ slate of home games this summer. There’s a long journey between now and whenever those matters become pertinent. For now, the Ballers’ goal is to provide professional baseball that the community can take pride in. As far as that journey is concerned, they’re starting off on the right foot.
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Athletics' temporary Sacramento ballpark will have hydration element because of summer heat

A new artificial turf surface at the Oakland Athletics' temporary home in Sacramento, California, will have a hydration element because of summer heat at the open-air ballpark. “We think that’s the best that we can do in terms of playing surface in the heat,” baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred...
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Turf installation to have special feature to reduce heat issues
 
A “hydration element,” eh?

They’re called sprinklers. Or maybe a hose or two.

Before you chuckle, we in Portland have chuckled about the Timbers grounds crew watering the artificial surface on all but rain days… but it does supposedly cool down the turf. And sometimes the crew is considerate enough to hydrate the front rows of Timbers Army.
 
GoldenSeal said:
If you didn't grow up in Oakland, I don't think you'd understand. And you sound like one who is constantly an out of towner through your life, and that's not a knock on you. Most flatlanders don't leave Oakland and we have a very odd way of looking at things and those from outside our city, especially with how those not from here view us and the fact that economic and social gentrification is at war here. I grew up at a time when Oakland had a major rivalry with Richmond and that's a whole lot closer than San Jose. And don't get me started with how we feel about the folks from the "Oakland Hills".

It isn't insomuch how you look at it, its how we look at you, if that makes sense. No offense to you on any level. Travelling is good for the soul.
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I hear you, and appreciate the insight. I didn't mean that like "it's all the same, who cares" or people aren't proud of where they are from within the area.

Your description very much reminds me of New York, where people don't leave their boroughs or neighborhoods (the Dodgers left Brooklyn because if they have to move to Queens, what's the difference?)

I meant that event attending is really easy in the arena due to the infrastructure. If you grow up in a different neighborhood, one without a stadium, you can just go to the stadium. Like, you've revealed your Oakland Roots (word play intended), and you're on a hockey board... I assume you've been to Sharks games? Just hop on BART, Uber a couple blocks, piece of cake.

That really shrinks the distance. (I was coming in from further way, so it would always be fun to see who gets on BART stops wearing jerseys when I went to Giants, As or Sharks games).


Ultimately, Sacramento is definitely a bridge too far for the A's. And the team leaving Oakland for anywhere but a different BART stop is absolutely horrible for baseball and the Bay Area.
 
Takuto Maruki said:
Two baseball teams play in Oakland today. One kept its promises.
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One changed ownership and management quite abit and the City Of Oakland has spent DECADES refusing on all levels to allow the team to build a new home, even with private financing, including filing a lawsuit agains the A's for wanting to buy the Coliseum property, you know, the one they actually play at. City of Oakland would LOVE to tell everyone it's the A's, the Warriors and the Raiders faults for leaving the city but the bottom line is, the City of Oakland's priorities are to have NO priorities. That's why there's rampant crime, a school district ran into the ground with no financing, loss of businesses, including sports, that helped actually BUILD the city up due to the city council's ineffectiveness to do anything beyond sit on the council, talk and leave.

You want to know who didn't keep promises? ANYONE and EVERYONE who sat on the city council. It's easy to blame everyone else, but they and only they are at fault for the disaster that Oakland has become.

The Port of Oakland is a major shipping port in the US and the city, for some reason, is unable to tap into that revenue. And no one talks about that. I wonder why.

There's a word I won't mention here, but it seems to run rampant at all levels here. I'll let you guess what it is.
 
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LadyStanley said:
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Fisher apologizes to A's fans for failing to keep team in Oakland

Oakland Athletics owner John Fisher wrote a lengthy letter to fans ahead of the team's final series in the city it has called home since 1968.
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Apologies to fans
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A's fan here, with how bad Oakland has become and the absolute tone-deafness of those running the city, it's long past time to go. City of Oakland should be the ones apologizing to every single flatlander for all the failures they are responsible for. Generational poverty. Generational crime. Generational bad leadership. Where does it end?
 
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