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If they can find an owner quickly enough, the optimal solution here would seem to be for Fisher to sell the As to someone who will keep them in Oakland, pursuing one of the existing plans that Fisher refused, and for Fisher to be granted an expansion team in Vegas, which allows him to not field a team until he has a field for said team, while not interrupting the history of the As in Oakland.
Apparently Oakland near top of the list for expansion team
If they can find an owner quickly enough, the optimal solution here would seem to be for Fisher to sell the As to someone who will keep them in Oakland, pursuing one of the existing plans that Fisher refused, and for Fisher to be granted an expansion team in Vegas, which allows him to not field a team until he has a field for said team, while not interrupting the history of the As in Oakland.
Granted, it sounds like they're not doing that, but it feels like it alleviates all of the problems all at once if they'd put the effort in (and there's a new owner willing to step in.)
The issue with that solution (which is the second-best option from my perspective) is that if you ship off the current roster to Vegas, they have nowhere logical to play until the stadium is built. If you find a new owner in Oakland, and set up Fisher with an expansion team, he can build the stadium, then the team takes the field once that's done. No interregnum period where the team has to play the nomad game, no period where Oakland doesn't have a team. The only person who has to wait or be inconvenienced in any way is Fisher.Nah, the optimal thing is "The Cleveland Browns Solution" where the A's move to Vegas and take a new name, leaving the Oakland Athletics as the expansion team.
Which is precisely why it will never happen that way.The only person who has to wait or be inconvenienced in any way is Fisher.
The issue with that solution (which is the second-best option from my perspective) is that if you ship off the current roster to Vegas, they have nowhere logical to play until the stadium is built. If you find a new owner in Oakland, and set up Fisher with an expansion team, he can build the stadium, then the team takes the field once that's done. No interregnum period where the team has to play the nomad game, no period where Oakland doesn't have a team. The only person who has to wait or be inconvenienced in any way is Fisher.
In the scenario KevFu was proposing, yes. In the one I was advocating for, no.He wouldnt be though.
Fisher would own the Vegas franchise and the league would take ownership of the A's name and give it to the expansion team, making Oakland the ones to wait
The issue with that solution (which is the second-best option from my perspective) is that if you ship off the current roster to Vegas, they have nowhere logical to play until the stadium is built. If you find a new owner in Oakland, and set up Fisher with an expansion team, he can build the stadium, then the team takes the field once that's done. No interregnum period where the team has to play the nomad game, no period where Oakland doesn't have a team. The only person who has to wait or be inconvenienced in any way is Fisher.
Meetings start today. Vote is expected ThursdayThe vote is supposed to be tomorrow, no?
I find it hilarious how some people on this board, and outside of it, consider it appalling, and an indictment on the NHL that the Coyotes play out of Mullett...yet seem to willingly ignore that Fisher and co. have had no real idea on where the A's will play until the Vegas stadium gets built for the *entirety* of this saga as we stand, and freely admit that they are effectively going to mooch off of other stadiums, Triple A or otherwise, until that point. And that not only does Manfred and the other owners sign off on it, but they gleefully support it even when Fisher hasn't had a clue on a sort of plan for months now. And especially with the Nevada teachers union putting up a fight against funding for the eventual new stadium, and general on the ground word of mouth on this 'relocation' is extremely negative, Fisher still has no real plan in place that isn't haphazard at best, and absolutely pie in the sky at worst.Still no details known of where they will play 2025 through 2027...maybe later
I find it hilarious how some people on this board, and outside of it, consider it appalling, and an indictment on the NHL that the Coyotes play out of Mullett...yet seem to willingly ignore that Fisher and co. have had no real idea on where the A's will play until the Vegas stadium gets built for the *entirety* of this saga as we stand, and freely admit that they are effectively going to mooch off of other stadiums, Triple A or otherwise, until that point. And that not only does Manfred and the other owners sign off on it, but they gleefully support it even when Fisher hasn't had a clue on a sort of plan for months now. And especially with the Nevada teachers union, and general on the ground word of mouth on this 'relocation' is extremely negative, Fisher still has no real plan in place that isn't haphazard at best, and absolutely pie in the sky at worst.
Really just kind of underlines my continued belief that the 'please like my sport' nature of most NHL fans extends to their belief that their problems are somehow worse then others.
The Coyotes *had* an infinitely more solid plan with Tempe then Fisher has had since Howard Terminal. The Coyotes are doing infinitely more work in trying to get a plan B done then Fisher has since he told Oakland's political leaders to pound sand in the eleventh hour, that he would be running to Vegas for cheaper, and still cannot get the stadium he believes will 'save' the A's (forgetting that he'll run the Vegas A's like he did in Oakland, that being cheap and fire sale-ing any worthwhile players once their first contracts end)nah, Mullett is still an embarrassment of epic proportions. The AAA stadium in Vegas is still double the capacity (10k)
nah, Mullett is still an embarrassment of epic proportions. The AAA stadium in Vegas is still double the capacity (10k)