Post-Game Talk: NYR VS Sharks 10/23/17

[GregSirico]

AV emphatic in saying NYR's problem isn't personnel. "This personnel is good."

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Why are the Rangers above tanking? Because they play in "The Worlds Most Famous Arena"? This franchise is way too arrogant for its own good.

It's not about the Rangers specifically. I would imagine that any professional athlete would be really upset if management told them to throw games.

 

[Machinehead]

The Pens and Hawks say otherwise. That is the way the system is set up. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

The Kansas City Penguins had the system rigged for them.

We can't compare ourselves to that.

 

[Trxjw]

Not giving up on this team until at least Thanksgiving. If they still look like trash then, take your medicine, sell off expendable pieces, and work on developing what young talent is there.

Trying to stay in that same boat. Though it's hard to see any silver linings with the way this team is playing.

Something tells me that if they lose to the Yotes later this week, that will spell the end of AV's tenure here. Then it'll be time to see how the team does under a new regime, and with our luck it'll be just good enough to be a bubble team.

 

[GregSirico]

Why are the Rangers above tanking? Because they play in "The Worlds Most Famous Arena"? This franchise is way too arrogant for its own good.

If the Yankees can do it. Anyone can. It’s a poor excuse.

 

[nevesis]

Why are the Rangers above tanking? Because they play in "The Worlds Most Famous Arena"? This franchise is way too arrogant for its own good.

That arrogant franchise is a business first.

 

[JT Kreider]

It's not about the Rangers specifically. I would imagine that any professional athlete would be really upset if management told them to throw games.

With the severe lack of talent, regardless of what management says, we are on the fast track to an extended stay in the East cellar.

 

[NikC]

No but tanking is?
That's a real chicken **** way out..

Lol, this is the mentality that perpetuates the losing culture in this organization. They don't deserve to win anything. ..
Time to sick it up and build a real team on talent. ... not lighting in a bottle signings and retreads...

The lundqvist Era is over

 

[NYR]

If the Yankees can do it. Anyone can. It’s a poor excuse.

Making it to game 7 of the the ALCS isn't exactly tanking..

 

[Trxjw]

This tanking talk is already tired. They're actively trying to win right now and are in 28th place. They don't have to "tank" to get a high pick at this rate, because they're already playing themselves into a lottery pick.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

With the severe lack of talent, regardless of what management says, we are on the fast track to an extended stay in the East cellar.

If that's in the cards, then fine - it is what it is - My only point is that I can't see professional athletes being ok with deliberately tanking.

 

[Machinehead]

If the Yankees can do it. Anyone can. It’s a poor excuse.

The Yankees didn't tear it down. They traded a few replaceable veterans and finished above .500.

They brought in veterans like Matt Holliday and Chris Carter at the start of the year.

 

[JT Kreider]

That arrogant franchise is a business first.

They'll make their money regardless. The majority of the people who go to the games are financial execs taking their friends out for a night on the town and the only player they can even name is the goalie.

 

[NYR]

Lol, this is the mentality that perpetuates the losing culture in this organization. They don't deserve to win anything. ..
Time to sick it up and build a real team on talent. ... not lighting in a bottle signings and retreads...

The lundqvist Era is over

You're talking a few years of tanking. Not just one.
You think this team is an 18 year old Dahlin away from competing?

 

[GregSirico]

Making it to game 7 of the the ALCS isn't exactly tanking..

Who’s saying anything about this year? This year is the first step toward development. The rebuild was last year. They are just 2Y ahead of pace.

 

[JT Kreider]

The Yankees didn't tear it down. They traded a few replaceable veterans and finished above .500.

They brought in veterans like Matt Holliday and Chris Carter at the start of the year.

In a well run organization anyone is replaceable.

 

[E-Train]

This tanking talk is already tired. They're actively trying to win right now and are in 28th place. They don't have to "tank" to get a high pick at this rate, because they're already playing themselves into a lottery pick.

Yeah, I don't get the tanking talk. It's happening organically.

 

[Petey Pucks]

Well this may give some people here a semblance of hope

In AV's first season with us in 2013/14 we went 3-7-0 in our first 10 games collecting 6 pts and we ended the season 45-31-6 with 96 pts. Good enough for 2nd in the metro right behind Pittsburgh , who we overcame a 3-1 deficit in the playoffs while also beating them for the first time in the playoffs.

In our first 10 games this season we are 2-6-2 with 6 pts......but as someone else pointed out earlier we would have to play the rest of the season at a 102 point pace from here on out like we did in 2013/14

Something. Needs. To . Be . Done . Soon......Otherwise this is just pure hoping

 

[GregSirico]

The Yankees didn't tear it down. They traded a few replaceable veterans and finished above .500.

They brought in veterans like Matt Holliday and Chris Carter at the start of the year.

They traded their most tradable parts at the deadline for core pieces to add to what they have been developing. Holliday and Carter are veterans to help guide the young core. It’s not about last year and this year they didn’t expect to develop that fast.

 

[Machinehead]

In a well run organization anyone is replaceable.

Bullshit.

McDonagh is as hard for the Rangers to replace as Aaron Judge is for the Yankees.

Probably harder, because the Yankees don't have a hard cap.

 

[JT Kreider]

You're talking a few years of tanking. Not just one.
You think this team is an 18 year old Dahlin away from competing?

Dahlin is a damn good start

 

[GregSirico]

Well this may give some people here a semblance of hope

In AV's first season with us in 2013/14 we went 3-7-0 in our first 10 games collecting 6 pts and we ended the season 45-31-6 with 96 pts. Good enough for 2nd in the metro right behind Pittsburgh , who we overcame a 3-1 deficit in the playoffs while also beating them for the first time in the playoffs.

In our first 10 games this season we are 2-6-2 with 10 pts......but as someone else pointed out earlier we would have to play the rest of the season at a 102 point pace from here on out like we did in 2013/14

Something. Needs. To . Be . Done . Soon......Otherwise this is just pure hoping

That team had a different feeling to it. This team just looks checked out. That starts at the coach.

 

[NYR]

Who’s saying anything about this year? This year is the first step toward development. The rebuild was last year. They are just 2Y ahead of pace.

The rebuild was last year huh?

 

[NYR Viper]

Trying to stay in that same boat. Though it's hard to see any silver linings with the way this team is playing.

Something tells me that if they lose to the Yotes later this week, that will spell the end of AV's tenure here. Then it'll be time to see how the team does under a new regime, and with our luck it'll be just good enough to be a bubble team.

If they bring in another coach, it will take weeks to implement a system. I think if Gorton changes coaches, by the time they start to get the system they will be way down in the standings

 

[Machinehead]

They traded their most tradable parts at the deadline for core pieces to add to what they have been developing. Holliday and Carter are veterans to help guide the young core. It’s not about last year and this year they didn’t expect to develop that fast.

But they still didn't tear it down. They haven't had a losing season in 25 years.

They probably could have made a run at the 2016 playoffs and decided not to. I predict the Rangers will get hot and probably end up a few points out at the deadline. If we decided at that point to sell and forget the playoffs, I fully support it.

What I don't support is trading McDonagh, trading Zuccarello, trading Kreider, trading Shattenkirk, and picking zeroeth overall for the next ten years.