Confirmed with Link: NYR/OTT: Namestnikov ($750K retained) to Ottawa for 2021 4th Rnd pick and Nick Ebert

[Tawnos]

Completely understand... but Spooner is done... turned him into Strome... ok fine. It’s just that we NEVER seem to have a clue when giving out contracts. Names and Smith also. I won’t lump Staal in because of diff circumstances and Sather was in then... but we just can’t seem to get it right. Skjei may prove that again (I REALLY hope not).

Kreider and Zibanejad were good deals.

Gorton hasn’t had much opportunity though. Smith, Namestnikov and Spooner are transitional figures who weren’t signed to long-term deals. It’s easy to over-exaggerate the meaningfulness of those contracts against the overall picture.

 

[Larrybiv]

Worst trade in NHL history, Ottawa just got revenge for the Zibanejad trade

We ripped them so bad with that......JG must have badly. I mean, we dont need powerhouse Ottawa being pissed with us for years on end. That would mean, we would never be able to "rip them" again. We wouldnt want that now, would we?
Chiarelli anyone? You know what I mean?

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Not that I’m really complaining, value isn’t too surprising, but was the immediate cap space that necessary?

Gut reaction is why not try to flip him at the deadline with the hope of getting more? Not that it’s a huge deal.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

Guessing the mandate remains to rebuild with strings attached . The Trouba and Panarin moves were to prevent losing more tushies in the seats. If they hang around near a playoff spot near the deadline, they now have the picks, prospects and cap room to make a minor move. If they suck again, they prolly just sold high in October by getting a high 4th for an expensive bottom-6.

Play the kids.

 

[mti79]

I'm confused. I feel like over the summer people were saying to trade Namestnikov for a bag of pucks just to get his contract off the books. Now we're 2 games into the season and people are upset with the return?

He was a serviceable player for us but I'm ok with trading him. Frees up cap space and a roster spot

 

[Tawnos]

Not that I’m really complaining, value isn’t too surprising, but was the immediate cap space that necessary?

Gut reaction is why not try to flip him at the deadline with the hope of getting more? Not that it’s a huge deal.

There’s no guarantee that a deal would be available at that time. What if the trade market at the deadline is like last years? Or Namestnikov could get hurt. Point is, if he’s not part of the future, move him when you can.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Not that I’m really complaining, value isn’t too surprising, but was the immediate cap space that necessary?

Gut reaction is why not try to flip him at the deadline with the hope of getting more? Not that it’s a huge deal.

Given he was demoted to the fourth line and Lemieux already benefited from his drop in ice time, perhaps Gorton finally got a deal that was acceptable. Again, who knows what follows this move.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Not that I’m really complaining, value isn’t too surprising, but was the immediate cap space that necessary?

Gut reaction is why not try to flip him at the deadline with the hope of getting more? Not that it’s a huge deal.

Given that they were absolutely unable to move anyone other than Vesey in the offseason, the moment the deal presents itself you take it.

(Also, by doing it now, you bank a ton more cap space.)

 

[Gresch04]

Well that is an underwhelming return but I guess its good to dump that salary.

Chytil back up. Kravtsov has a lot of adjustment to do.

Kravtsov is a kid who traveled thousands of miles thinking if he played well he'd earn a spot. He played well enough to do so and now is doing what a kid far from home might do when disappointed. Management needs to not F this up.

 

[Trxjw]

Freed up some cap room and a roster spot for a guy who was gone in 9 months and was likely never going to build up his value before then. It's a good move for the Rangers for a guy who has been on the block for a long while.

Also, the mental gymnastics performed in this thread to try and turn this into a disaster is just downright hilarious.

 

[QJL]

As mentioned by others, DeAngelo must be pissed.

Will be interesting to see who gets called up of Chytil, Kravtsov, and Nieves.

I also think this opens up the space to bring Lindgren up comfortably sometime soon.

 

[LORDE]

Kreider and Zibanejad were good deals.

Gorton hasn’t had much opportunity though. Smith, Namestnikov and Spooner are transitional figures who weren’t signed to long-term deals. It’s easy to over-exaggerate the meaningfulness of those contracts against the overall picture.

I didn’t think I was over exaggerating. Just saying it gave me pause. Didn’t mean to exaggerate at all

 

[Larrybiv]

I wonder if the Rangers would sign Brian Boyle. Maybe a late signing? Provides vet leadership, size, grit and faceoffs. Maybe Names did request a trade.

If I were he, I would as well. I wanna play. Obviously apparent, he wasnt here. Ottawa? Oh crap. Can I take mh request back?.......sorry Names, its a done deal.

 

[Kovalev27]

@Edge called this return last week I think. Hope everyone who whinged incessantly about trading Namestnikov is satisfied.

I certainly am.

 

[Tawnos]

Given that they were absolutely unable to move anyone other than Vesey in the offseason, the moment the deal presents itself you take it.

(Also, by doing it now, you bank a ton more cap space.)

I’ve been meaning to clear this up for a while, but my understanding has always been that you don’t really bank space in the sense that you can use it on additions. Your daily roster total, annualized, can’t exceed the cap under any circumstances except LTIR. What happens with trades is that you end up pro-rating the acquired players cap hit. So if there’s half the season left, you’re only responsible for half the cap hit, which allows you to acquire a player worth twice as much as your available space.

The only thing you can really bank space for is being able to account for bonuses on that year’s cap.

At least that’s always been my understanding. Maybe someone can correct me with a link to reliable articles or other info.

 

[Tawnos]

I didn’t think I was over exaggerating. Just saying it gave me pause. Didn’t mean to exaggerate at all

I guess from my perspective, it giving you pause comes from giving more meaning to these things than they deserve.

 

[Svenhart2008]

Kravtsov is a kid who traveled thousands of miles thinking if he played well he'd earn a spot. He played well enough to do so and now is doing what a kid far from home might do when disappointed. Management needs to not F this up.

Kravtsov did not play well enough to earn a NHL spot. I know opinions are subjective but he's been largely ineffective during preseason. No issue with him being sent down. If it hurts his feelings, we may have a different situation on our hands.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Half the board was whining we didn’t move Names this summer. Now, people are complaining about the return.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I know it's early, but, hockey seasons are not static. I know many of us think this team is at best a fringe playoff team. But, each season takes on a life of its own. Pittsburgh has already lost Malkin for an extended time. And, the Rangers are watching Zibanejad possibly reach another level, Panarin smoothly fit in, and Trouba look like he's going to be worth what the price they paid. They see the holes, and while I'm not saying screw the rebuild, if the proper opportunity presents itself to acquire the right piece that fits the plan, who knows where things go from here. Gorton has almost certainly gauged the market, and knows who he can target and the likely price for that player.

 

[bleedblue94]

A deadline move perhaps ?

Do they have potential bonuses that could roll over to next year that they perhaps can pay this year with the added space and keep more space available for next season if they make another move this summer?

 

[FIRE DRURY]

ADA’s agent was furious when this trade was announced.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I know it's early, but, hockey seasons are not static. I know many of us think this team is at best a fringe playoff team. But, each season takes on a life of its own. Pittsburgh has already lost Malkin for an extended time. And, the Rangers are watching Zibanejad possibly reach another level, Panarin smoothly fit in, and Trouba look like he's going to be worth what the price they paid. They see the holes, and while I'm not saying screw the rebuild, if the proper opportunity presents itself to acquire the right piece that fits the plan, who knows where things go from here. Gorton has almost certainly gauged the market, and knows who he can target and the likely price for that player.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

ADA’s agent was furious when this trade was announced.

Hahahaha. I love Bill Hader.

(Will not comment on the guy he's lampooning.)

 

[Ghost of jas]

Really? If the right young center who could slide in behind Zibanejad and work with Kreider and Kakko became available, you'd be against that move?

 

[GAGLine]

I’ve been meaning to clear this up for a while, but my understanding has always been that you don’t really bank space in the sense that you can use it on additions. Your daily roster total, annualized, can’t exceed the cap under any circumstances except LTIR. What happens with trades is that you end up pro-rating the acquired players cap hit. So if there’s half the season left, you’re only responsible for half the cap hit, which allows you to acquire a player worth twice as much as your available space.

The only thing you can really bank space for is being able to account for bonuses on that year’s cap.

At least that’s always been my understanding. Maybe someone can correct me with a link to reliable articles or other info.

No, you can absolutely bank cap space (but not LTIR space).

Imagine the cap is 100 million and there are 200 days in the season. The team can spend up to 500k per day. Let's say the team spends 475k per day for the first 100 days. That means they can then spend 525k per day for the remaining 100 days. We banked 25k for 100 days, which is an extra 2.5 mil.