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Confirmed with Link: NYR have Signed Igor Shesterkin and Vitali Kravtsov to ELCs (Confirmed by NYR)

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notwolfy said:
Give away Georgiev and you are giving away the next Hasek. The only difference is Georgiev is 23, Hasek was almost 26 when the Blackhawks traded him to Buffalo for the legendary Stephane Beauregard.
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Agreed, except not only younger but better Hasek
 
You could start Hank 45 games next year, where he's still the nominal starter. Give Georgiev 25 starts and the rest to Shesterkin, or some other breakdown depending on how those two play. You do it next year.

Then, heading into the final year of his deal, you have a frank conversation with him that he's now the backup to whoever, and that the organizational preference would be to try to send him somewhere else that he's open to. He'll be due "only" $5.5M and $1M of that is a signing bonus. Maybe he's open to being moved in his final year, or maybe he's ready to retire.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
You could start Hank 45 games next year, where he's still the nominal starter. Give Georgiev 25 starts and the rest to Shesterkin, or some other breakdown depending on how those two play. You do it next year.

Then, heading into the final year of his deal, you have a frank conversation with him that he's now the backup to whoever, and that the organizational preference would be to try to send him somewhere else that he's open to. He'll be due "only" $5.5M and $1M of that is a signing bonus. Maybe he's open to being moved in his final year, or maybe he's ready to retire.
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By season's end wasn't Georgiev playing over 50% of the games? Why would it revert in any way next season?
 
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So, he could fill that LW need.
 
nyr2k2 said:
You could start Hank 45 games next year, where he's still the nominal starter. Give Georgiev 25 starts and the rest to Shesterkin, or some other breakdown depending on how those two play. You do it next year.

Then, heading into the final year of his deal, you have a frank conversation with him that he's now the backup to whoever, and that the organizational preference would be to try to send him somewhere else that he's open to. He'll be due "only" $5.5M and $1M of that is a signing bonus. Maybe he's open to being moved in his final year, or maybe he's ready to retire.
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If we are going with 45 games for Lundqvist, that leaves 37 games for the other 2.

Give Georgiev 16 games so he remains waiver exempt throughout the season, give Shestyorkin 16. That leaves 5 games to divide among these 2 in the final 2-3 weeks when all 3 goalies are on the team.

A buyout in 2020 would definitely make sense. He still gets paid, he can be offered a role in the organization, maybe as Allaire's assistant or something
 
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romba said:
By season's end wasn't Georgiev playing over 50% of the games? Why would it revert in any way next season?
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I mean, didn't Georgiev do the same two years ago? Playing out the string in a rebuilding season? There's a difference between closing out a failed campaign by giving the young guy more starts and starting off a fresh season doing the same. It's definitely possible--I'm not saying it's a guarantee that Hank is penciled in as the starter next year. It's just kind of my assumption, given the respect the organization seems to show Lundqvist. We'll see, I guess.
 
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Make your dumb personal comments all you want, you sound like the Blackhawks before they traded Hasek. My opinion comes from my father a goalie who worked with Craig Anderson when he was a youth in Park Ridge Il. my dad knows a thing or two about the goalie position and talent potential. With that you tire me. No more need to converse, I will just come back and laugh at all you clowns if a trade is made.
 
notwolfy said:
Make your dumb personal comments all you want, you sound like the Blackhawks before they traded Hasek. My opinion comes from my father a goalie who worked with Craig Anderson in Park Ridge Il. my dad knows a thing or two about the goalie position and talent potential. With that you tire me. No more need to converse, I will just come back and laugh at all you clowns if a trade is made.
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I haven't seen Park Ridge I, so please, no spoilers.
 
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notwolfy said:
Make your dumb personal comments all you want, you sound like the Blackhawks before they traded Hasek. My opinion comes from my father a goalie who worked with Craig Anderson in Park Ridge Il. my dad knows a thing or two about the goalie position and talent potential. With that you tire me. No more need to converse, I will just come back and laugh at all you clowns if a trade is made.
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I mean, you name yourself in reference to one of the looniest posters we've ever had, and then compare our backup to arguably the most talented goaltender to play the game. And you expect to be taken seriously with that?
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Maybe he's open to being moved in his final year, or maybe he's ready to retire.
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Gut says none of the above

Remember, give Henke more rest, he could be better. Which means that some highly touted names as far as the wins column become more evident
 
notwolfy said:
Make your dumb personal comments all you want, you sound like the Blackhawks before they traded Hasek. My opinion comes from my father a goalie who worked with Craig Anderson when he was a youth in Park Ridge Il. my dad knows a thing or two about the goalie position and talent potential. With that you tire me. No more need to converse, I will just come back and laugh at all you clowns if a trade is made.
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My dad taught high school English, but I'm pretty sure I've never quoted Shakespeare on here.
 
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haveandare said:
Georgiev was also horrendous in the NHL at the start of this year. And Igor hasn’t played a single game.

Let them all compete and the best players sort out. I don’t think it’s set that hank is anything but number 1 of this group now, let alone being number 3.
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It's not that Hank is worse, hes just not part of the future. He will turn 38 during the next season. He's 14 years older than Geo and Shesterkin. We want them in the NHL, going through their growing pains, but learning to be NHL stars. If that results in a few extra loses, so what? We get a higher draft pick. What does Lundqvist playing do to help us win the Cup in the future?
 
Maybe I'm sentimental, but if Georgiev is a borderline NHL starter but really more of a quality backup, and Shesterkin is the real star moving forward, I'm kinda willing let Hank ride out the rebuild and be part of a duo with Shesterkin if he wants to try to last long enough for another playoff run here, and I'll accept that I have to maybe move on from Georgiev.

We have a ton of high caliber goalie talent in our system that probably projects to be at least backup caliber. If I have to sacrifice Georgiev to another team to make the best goalie in our recent history happy, I'll probably do so.

Within reason. I'm not gonna promise Hank he can start over Shesterkin. I'm not gonna re-sign him to a high paying deal. But if he wants to play into his 40s and platoon with Prince Igor and/or back him up, so long as he can stay in NY and finish his career here and be around for when the team is competing for a Cup again... I'm not gonna cry over losing Georgiev, when we have Wall, Halverson, Huska, Lindbom, etc, all in the pipeline.
 
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