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Confirmed with Link: NYR have Signed Igor Shesterkin and Vitali Kravtsov to ELCs (Confirmed by NYR)

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I think Lundqvist's problem is his salary more than his play. If he could split time and be paid accordingly I think we'd all love to have him continue here.
 
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I could see something like:

Gyorg: 31 games
Hank: 31 games
Shestyorkin: 22 games

With Gyorg/Shestyorkin getting in some AHL time as well. Mainly Shestyorkin.

Not sure how down Hank is for that, though.
 
If Shesterkin forces the issue, things could get interesting.

I think Lundqvist on a contender is still good enough to make some serious noise, even if he isn't going to perform miracles as consistently as he once did.

The challenge comes not from whether Lundqvist is still an NHL goalie, so much as whether the Rangers have two, young, legit NHL goalies coming up behind him.

Things can be navigated with one making his case, two would be pretty uncommon.

At that point, it really depends on what Lundqvist wants to do.
 
mschmidt64 said:
I think Lundqvist's problem is his salary more than his play. If he could split time and be paid accordingly I think we'd all love to have him continue here.
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His cap hit doesn't matter. His roster spot does. We aren't likely to carry 3 goalies and both Georgiev and Shesty are going to need games at the NHL level. We can probably manage it for a year but the year after, I can't see us still splitting games between the 3 players.

As sad as it is to say, Hank's time is over. He won't be our starter when we are ready to compete again.
 
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UnSandvich said:
If Hank wants to retire prior to the end of his contract, good for him, go for it
If Hank wants to be traded to a contender, we should work to make that happen.
If Hank wants to stay until the end of his contract, he's earned that right
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He's earned the right for what he's entitled to under his contract and nothing more. We're running a team, not a charity.
 
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mschmidt64 said:
I think Lundqvist's problem is his salary more than his play. If he could split time and be paid accordingly I think we'd all love to have him continue here.
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In what way is his, or any of the other bad contracts, an obstacle for this team in their remaining 2 seasons? Our salary cap commitments are fairly small, seeing how we are the youngest team in the league (lots of ELCs) and we will only continue to get younger this off season.

I would be more concerned with one of the many d men blocking a roster spot from a young deserving player. This is why I expect we will see a buyout of one of those guys next summer, if not this one. We have cap space in spades for the next couple seasons
 
Edge said:
At that point, it really depends on what Lundqvist wants to do.
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I cannot see a scenario where he accepts a trade. I can (hopefully, maybe, if all the conditions come to be) see one where he accepts a job in the organization. But then again, Henke is such a competitor, I cannot believe he would hang it up with something still in the tank.
 
I think people are trying to drive Lundqvist out and that has something to do with his salary more than his non usefulness.

Yes, his numbers were down this year, but scoring across the league is up in general, no? And he has a pretty bad defense in front of him.

I like Georgiev but I do wonder if he's getting the backup QB treatment.
 
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mschmidt64 said:
I think people are trying to drive Lundqvist out and that has something to do with his salary more than his non usefulness.

Yes, his numbers were down this year, but scoring across the league is up in general, no? And he has a pretty bad defense in front of him.

I like Georgiev but I do wonder if he's getting the backup QB treatment.
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I think it's more about what happens if Shesterkin is the indeed the real deal.

Georgiev has shown he's an NHL goalie. But if Shesterkin transitions his talent, we're only going to be able to delay his promotion to the NHL for so long.

I don't think salary is a factor, but playing time would be.

If Shesterkin is indeed ready sooner rather than later, I just don't see Hank being happy to be in a 3 goalie rotation.

To me, that's the biggest factor. Not money, or even Hank's ability.
 
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As far as Shestyorkin he's had it kind of easy playing for SKA St. Petersburg which has been a top KHL team since he's been there. He's certainly not been seeing 40 or 50 shots a night. He's probably going to have to deal with that whether in Hartford or New York next year. So to me--he's got the cultural differences that come with starting a new life in North America--added to the smaller rinks and the more physical play and crowding of his crease but he's also going to have a D that's not always going to be defending very well in front of him. In this respect both Henrik and Alex have it all over him--they're use to getting bombed.

Shestyorkin also has always shared duties with his KHL team which might work to his benefit. I certainly don't him taking over as No. 1 next year.

A comment on Georgiev--no question in my mind that he was our best goaltender in the second half of the season. He absolutely stole some games the Rangers had no business winning. He does have a clunker now and again though.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
He's earned the right for what he's entitled to under his contract and nothing more. We're running a team, not a charity.
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Considering he has a full No Move Clause in his contract, then he is entitled to exactly what that previous poster said.

He can demand a trade if he wants or he can stay if he wants. Can't be traded against his will or sent to the AHL or put on waivers. It's entirely up to him.

The Rangers could have 15 young hot shot prospects chomping at the bit behind him and it is irrelevant because of, as you said, what he is entitled to in his contract.
 
Glen Sathers Cigar said:
Considering he has a full No Move Clause in his contract, then he is entitled to exactly what that previous poster said.

He can demand a trade if he wants or he can stay if he wants. Can't be traded against his will or sent to the AHL or put on waivers. It's entirely up to him.

The Rangers could have 15 young hot shot prospects chomping at the bit behind him and it is irrelevant because of, as you said, what he is entitled to in his contract.
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And that's fine, but it's not because he was such a swell guy for us, but because legally he's entitled to this.
 
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And that's fine, but it's not because he was such a swell guy for us, but because legally he's entitled to this.
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Well, yeah obviously.

Although you could forgive people saying he earned the right to do as he wants from the view that since he earned his contract - full NMC and all - as a result of his stellar play his whole career, that he has in fact earned the right to do as he wants. Sentimentally and literally.
 
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notwolfy said:
Why does he deserve whatever he wishes. It is about the team. Babe Ruth was traded, Wayne Gretzky was traded, etc. Team comes first. To let go 23 year old goalie Georgiev who has shown such potential would be a disaster so that Lundqvist feels respected. Nope, Georgiev on another team would be a star.
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Not to argue against your point, but the Gretzky trade is far from an example of "team comes first".
 
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Give away Georgiev and you are giving away the next Hasek. The only difference is Georgiev is 23, Hasek was almost 26 when the Blackhawks traded him to Buffalo for the legendary Stephane Beauregard.
 
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