Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYR] F Alexis Lafreniere signs extension with the Rangers (7 years, $7.45M AAV)

[Shlep]

I dont care about David Quinn lol you are being disingenuous about this player.

THREE DIFFERENT guys thought he wasn't good enough for consistent PP1 time. Does that not tell you something?

Like I said, Laf is a fine 2nd line winger. That is it and he is nearly 350 games into his career. This hope that he is going to somehow make some huge jump is not based in fact. That rarely happens for guys who are this far into their careers.

Four coaches deemed Ehlers to not be good enough for PP1, now he's finally on it and the Jets have the best powerplay in the league. Several coaches pigeonholed Jared McCann as a bottom 6 defensive forward despite his defensive numbers being porous, and now he's a top goal scorer in the league. Sometimes coaches just accept what the last guy did, and sometimes they're just wrong.

 

[ploppsdman]

Can’t we just all agree that it’s scrumptious to watch the rangers collapse into a blackstar?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Four coaches deemed Ehlers to not be good enough for PP1, now he's finally on it and the Jets have the best powerplay in the league. Several coaches pigeonholed Jared McCann as a bottom 6 defensive forward despite his defensive numbers being porous, and now he's a top goal scorer in the league. Sometimes coaches just accept what the last guy did, and sometimes they're just wrong.

Or maybe Laf is just mid?

 

[SladeWilson23]

Four coaches deemed Ehlers to not be good enough for PP1, now he's finally on it and the Jets have the best powerplay in the league. Several coaches pigeonholed Jared McCann as a bottom 6 defensive forward despite his defensive numbers being porous, and now he's a top goal scorer in the league. Sometimes coaches just accept what the last guy did, and sometimes they're just wrong.

At that time, the Jets still had Byufglien and Blake Wheeler in their primes.

I personally believe Laf not being on PP1 is mostly due to because Zib and Kreider are being paid too much not to be given those spots.

I guarantee Juan Soto is gonna be hitting no lower than 5th during the duration of his 15 year contract.

 

[DJB]

I had higher expect of him this year . I expected more

 

[UnSandvich]

Even in what’s definitely been a disappointing season, and during a long scoring drought, Lafreniere is Top 50 in the league in 5v5 pts. His 19 is tied with Stutzle and Matt Tkachuk, and ahead of guys like Ovi, Tage Thompson, Brady Tkachuk, Nico Hischier, and more.

 

[mm11]

Even in what’s definitely been a disappointing season, and during a long scoring drought, Lafreniere is Top 50 in the league in 5v5 pts. His 19 is tied with Stutzle and Matt Tkachuk, and ahead of guys like Ovi, Tage Thompson, Brady Tkachuk, Nico Hischier, and more.

Breadman certainly helps the cause there

 

[Lou is God]

One assist in last 10 games. Yikes.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

One assist in last 10 games. Yikes.

He sounds perfect for the habs

 

[qc14]

Even in what’s definitely been a disappointing season, and during a long scoring drought, Lafreniere is Top 50 in the league in 5v5 pts. His 19 is tied with Stutzle and Matt Tkachuk, and ahead of guys like Ovi, Tage Thompson, Brady Tkachuk, Nico Hischier, and more.

It's also behind Anders Lee, Alexis Laferriere, Rickard Rakell, Warren Foegele, Jack Roslovic, Connor McMichael, Alexi Protas, and Fabian Zetterlund. Just one more than Eric Robinson, two more than Kiefer Sherwood, Scott Laughton, and Taylor Raddysh. You can always cherry-pick guys and stats to make whatever point you want over such a smaller sample.

Case in point is you sneaking in Ovi to that list -- his 17 5v5 points in 20 games is actually only slightly less on a p/g basis than Kaprizov's 30 in 34, and significantly ahead of Lafreniere's 19 in 36.

As others have pointed out, around 350 games into his career he probably is what he is at this point. A great 5v5 player that you probably want to be your third or fourth best forward who can have stretches of dominating play (like last playoffs) coupled with stretches where he's invisible.

 

[Guy Larose]

He sounds perfect for the habs

Oh you stopped bashing on the Habs board because they are winning and doing it on the main board instead

 

[Frank Drebin]

Oh you stopped bashing on the Habs board because they are winning and doing it on the main board instead

When someone puts a “lol” in their username probably not going to gain a lot of insight from reading their posts

 

[BB88]

Even in what’s definitely been a disappointing season, and during a long scoring drought, Lafreniere is Top 50 in the league in 5v5 pts. His 19 is tied with Stutzle and Matt Tkachuk, and ahead of guys like Ovi, Tage Thompson, Brady Tkachuk, Nico Hischier, and more.

Yet you’d take everyone of them over Laf

Not Ovy longterm ofcourse due to age

It’s simply hard to believe all the hype he’s gotten. The bar was set so low that getting close to 60 was seen as franchise level

 

[LaineBOOM]

One assist in last 10 games. Yikes.

So you are saying he has been mostly jusy scoring goals in the last 10 games?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Would he even play Kreider's role on the powerplay? I think part of issue is he's really been a forward on the other point guy throughout junior at his best, but that's kind of a marquee role and if he's not good enough for that spot he'll have to figure out how to be good on the powerplay aside.

No he wouldn't, lol. Kreider, as much as of a one trick pony, that one trick has made him a consistent 25-30 goal guy with that ceiling of a 40-45 goal year if everything goes right. Lafreniere will always be a decent 5v5 player but his point totals will be capped because he'll never play on the powerplay because he sucks at it

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Even in what’s definitely been a disappointing season, and during a long scoring drought, Lafreniere is Top 50 in the league in 5v5 pts. His 19 is tied with Stutzle and Matt Tkachuk, and ahead of guys like Ovi, Tage Thompson, Brady Tkachuk, Nico Hischier, and more.

And there's no one you listed that people would take Laf over besides Ovechkin long term obviously so why does it matter

Yet you’d take everyone of them over Laf

Not Ovy longterm ofcourse due to age

It’s simply hard to believe all the hype he’s gotten. The bar was set so low that getting close to 60 was seen as franchise level

The bar was also super high on him coming out of junior, people had him over Dahlin and Jack Hughes long term, Covid definitely did f*** Lafreniere + David Quinn/Gallant being stooges didn't help him either but a lot of people overlooked his red flags for whatever reason mainly his skating

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Can’t we just all agree that it’s scrumptious to watch the rangers collapse into a blackstar?

That's rich coming from a Hawks fan with your never ending rebuild. Looking forward to watching the Hawks in the playoffs in 2032

No he wouldn't, lol. Kreider, as much as of a one trick pony, that one trick has made him a consistent 25-30 goal guy with that ceiling of a 40-45 goal year if everything goes right. Lafreniere will always be a decent 5v5 player but his point totals will be capped because he'll never play on the powerplay because he sucks at it

Everyone agrees he sucks on the PP, but the real question worth asking is does he suck at it because he's never on it, or is he never on it because he sucks at it? Have to give him 20+ games on PP1 before we can definitively say. He's looked pretty decent up there the last couple games.

PP2 was always atrocious for them so it's hard to judge. Kakko belongs nowhere near a PP unit and they just kept pumping PP2 shifts into him.

 

[Fatass]

No he wouldn't, lol. Kreider, as much as of a one trick pony, that one trick has made him a consistent 25-30 goal guy with that ceiling of a 40-45 goal year if everything goes right. Lafreniere will always be a decent 5v5 player but his point totals will be capped because he'll never play on the powerplay because he sucks at it

He does play a heavy game though. So even though his production might be limited to 50-60 points he will also provide a physical element. Basically he’s a very good second line winger.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Everyone agrees he sucks on the PP, but the real question worth asking is does he suck at it because he's never on it, or is he never on it because he sucks at it? Have to give him 20+ games on PP1 before we can definitively say. He's looked pretty decent up there the last couple games.

PP2 was always atrocious for them so it's hard to judge. Kakko belongs nowhere near a PP unit and they just kept pumping PP2 shifts into him.

We won't know how true it is until he gets a lot of time but the Rangers are in a Catch-22, who is he kicking off that PP1 anyway? Zibanejad, as much as of a stooge he is the past year and a half, has a shot that's miles better than Laf's. Panarin/Fox/Kreider are not coming off PP1 because they're elite there and Trocheck is probably a good bumper. I don't see anything from Lafreniere that translates to the powerplay to be super effective there.

 

[The don godfather]

Buyout candidate soon.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

He does play a heavy game though. So even though his production might be limited to 50-60 points he will also provide a physical element. Basically he’s a very good second line winger.

So where are you playing him then? Kreider is the best tipper in the league, Trocheck is a better bumper than him and is used to faceoffs, Zibanejad has a better shot, Panarin/Fox aren't moving from PP1. He's simply just not better than what the options NYR has on PP1. Their PP1 has been incredible the past decade besides this year, you can make changes obviously but Lafreniere being on PP1 isn't fixing them anyway nor is he a guy that screams powerplay player.

 

[Fatass]

So where are you playing him then? Kreider is the best tipper in the league, Trocheck is a better bumper than him and is used to faceoffs, Zibanejad has a better shot, Panarin/Fox aren't moving from PP1. He's simply just not better than what the options NYR has on PP1. Their PP1 has been incredible the past decade besides this year, you can make changes obviously but Lafreniere being on PP1 isn't fixing them anyway nor is he a guy that screams powerplay player.

I think we agree. Lafreniere is a good second line winger. He doesn’t really, yet, have the elite skill to be a consistent PP 1 guy.
I like him as a player though, but in a role that’s best suited for his game. He is most effective playing in straight lines and not being creative. Not too sure if that’s a 7 mil player. But he does contribute in the right role.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Buyout candidate soon.

Maybe it will start being funny the 5th time you post it ITT

 

[The don godfather]

Maybe it will start being funny the 5th time you post it ITT

1st overall bust. What's this guy get 50 points or something? Terrible.

 

[Fatass]

1st overall bust. What's this guy get 50 points or something? Terrible.

Not at all a bust. Just not fulfilling the expectations of a 1OA. Still a good player. A bust, imo, would be a guy who isn’t in the nhl.