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Confirmed Trade: [NYR/BOS]Nick Holden for Rob O'Gara + 2018 3rd round pick

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This thread is gold. It's completely reminiscent of when the Avs traded Holden to the Rags. I feel like there's an arc with Holden.

1st Stage: "Man, this guy looks good on the 3rd pairing, free asset for practically nothing! Easily has a 2nd round+ value"
2nd Stage: "It's ok, Holden doesn't look great but he's just on the top pairing due to injuries and will be back on the 3rd once we're healthy"
3rd Stage: "What the hell does Holden have on our coach that he's still getting 20+ minutes a night looking like absolute dogshit?"
 
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BruinsBtn said:
Reminder: The Rangers don't have their 2nd round pick this year (and a 3rd) because they paid it for Brendan Smith, who will make $4.35m in the minors for the next three years because he was outplayed by Holden.
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He wasn't outplayed by Holden.

He showed up to camp out of shape and screwed himself.

Nice attempt at a spin job though. Keep showing us all that you have no clue about what has gone on in NY.
 
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The Bruins needed some depth on the left side. They've got a brutal schedule coming up and then the playoffs. Holden gives you an option or two in case of injuries or guys burning out.
Ideally allows them to limit Chara's minutes a couple of games so he's not torched by playoff time.

Also gives them insurance as they're 8-9 deep of NHL d-men now so you don't see a repeat of last year's playoffs.

That's easily worth a 3rd.
 
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b in vancouver said:
The Bruins needed some depth on the left side. They've got a brutal schedule coming up and then the playoffs. Holden gives you an option or two in case of injuries or guys burning out.
Ideally allows them to limit Chara's minutes a couple of games so he's not torched by playoff time.

Also gives them insurance as they're 8-9 deep of NHL d-men now so you don't see a repeat of last year's playoffs.

That's easily worth a 3rd.
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You would much rather have Chara playing more minutes than Holden getting into 2nd/1st pairing minute territory. Trust me.
 
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maybe, just maybe, the NYR really suck and misused the minutes Holden played? maybe? any depth dman in the next week will cost at least a 3rd-4th round pick.
 
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BruinsBtn said:
Reminder: The Rangers don't have their 2nd round pick this year (and a 3rd) because they paid it for Brendan Smith, who will make $4.35m in the minors for the next three years because he was outplayed by Holden.
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All those championships across sports and still the inferiority complex. There, there. *patpat*
 

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I thought this guy would get a player the quality of Landeskog.... I’m confused...
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Who said that exactly? I read all of those threads and didn't see it unless he was a throw in with a first and more.
 
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You would much rather have Chara playing more minutes than Holden getting into 2nd/1st pairing minute territory. Trust me.
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I'd think Holden comes in as the 6th - 8th d-man though.
I like Grizz but if he stumbles down the stretch drive (quite possible) they didn't really have another decent option.
They could also just roll out 7 d-men for a few games to minimize over-work.

Although first is still up for grabs, Boston's solidly in the playoffs, and it's mostly just about that so if Chara's minutes were lessened a few times, even if it cost them a couple games, it's not the worst thing in the world.
 
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BruinsBtn said:
Reminder: The Rangers don't have their 2nd round pick this year (and a 3rd) because they paid it for Brendan Smith, who will make $4.35m in the minors for the next three years because he was outplayed by Holden.
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Actually, that second was from Ottawa, we have our own this year.
 
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Holden fits the Bruins like a glove. Decent depth, good move for the B's.
 

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He wasn't outplayed by Holden.

He showed up to camp out of shape and screwed himself.

Nice attempt at a spin job though. Keep showing us all that you have no clue about what has gone on in NY.
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So the rangers waived Smith because he was out of shape and not because of his play?

Im going to call BS on that one. No one pays $4M for a guy not to play just because he's out of shape if he's still playing well :laugh:
 
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BruinsBtn said:
Roman Polak was traded for two 2nd rounders and this is highway robbery? Never change HF.
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Nick Spaling who was still decent at the time was in that deal and Toronto had to take on Raffi Torres. Good try though.

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So the rangers waived Smith because he was out of shape and not because of his play?

Im going to call BS on that one. No one pays $4M for a guy not to play just because he's out of shape if he's still playing well :laugh:
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Smith isn't really that good of a player. The wedding and being out of shape seems like an excuse. Holden is probably the better player overall.
 
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Thread needs more Leaf fans giving their opinion on how this effects the Toronto Maple Leafs
 

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Holden is now going to be the Bruins #6, 7, 8 , or 9 guy. O'Gara should be a good AHL guy or #7-8 guy, the pick, who knows, could turn out good or not. Good depth move for the playoffs, good chance to move a guy and get a pick that could turn out better for the Rangers.

The Bruins have so many prospects that they will never be able to have them all play, I believe this is just the start of the Bruins moving some prospects out.
 
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He also called Holden a good #5-6 who can play #4 in a pinch, which is a bargain for a 3rd at the deadline.
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I wouldn't say you got a bargain. It was a fair and decent deal. The Ranger fans who are saying you got fleeced are out to lunch though for sure.
 
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He also called Holden a good #5-6 who can play #4 in a pinch, which is a bargain for a 3rd at the deadline.
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You might have caught him in a contradiction on an internet messageboard. I don't know about you, but I'd call that a win.
 
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