Rumor: Nylander like Matthews unextended. Nothing to see here.

[ULF_55]

Aho just signed 8 years X 9.75M with a 2M signing bonus every year.

We know centres get paid more than wingers. Aho is also younger with less games played and more points on a lower scoring team with less offensive talent around him.

The cap on Nylander should be 9M with no bonus money, less if he wants his salary upfront every year.

Look at their history though.

Aho was already making 8..46mm per season because of the offsheet.
He's already got money in the bank because of that.
His take home is about $1mm more in NC than it would be in Ontario because of the lower tax rate.

It's like looking at MacKinnon's deal where there is no state income tax, and suggesting Matthews signing at his amount would make compensation equal.

I used to work for a bank and if you accepted a job in Toronto from a smaller city doing the exact same job they paid an extra cost of living allowance. Not sure if they still do, but it is known living in location A is unequal to living in location B.

 

[Hellcat]

Any updates on GonnaGetTradelander?

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I think willy signs at 9.5 for 6 years. It's steep but considering taxes and his smaller contract relative to Marner and Matthews previously, it's a somewhat fair contract.

 

[Hellcat]

Look at their history though.

Aho was already making 8..46mm per season because of the offsheet.
He's already got money in the bank because of that.
His take home is about $1mm more in NC than it would be in Ontario because of the lower tax rate.

It's like looking at MacKinnon's deal where there is no state income tax, and suggesting Matthews signing at his amount would make compensation equal.

I used to work for a bank and if you accepted a job in Toronto from a smaller city doing the exact same job they paid an extra cost of living allowance. Not sure if they still do, but it is known living in location A is unequal to living in location B.

There is more to that statement, a star in Toronto could get a local/ national advertising contract and make 6 figures for one days work, you won't do that in Raleigh, NC as a hockey player.

Off the top of my head Matthews has or had CCM, Apple, bet99 & RBC endorsement deals. Apparently he earned 2.3 mil from endorsments, not sure if that is lifetime or just last year .

What are Auston Matthews' contract details for the 2022-23 season?

Auston Matthews is one of the most prominent players in the National Hockey League (NHL). He plays as a center for the Toronto Maple Leafs. On Jan.

www.sportskeeda.com

 

[ULF_55]

There is more to that statement, a star in Toronto could get a local/ national advertising contract and make 6 figures for one days work, you won't do that in Raleigh, NC as a hockey player.

Off the top of my head Matthews has bet99 & RBC endorsement deals.

Yes, people can get 2nd. jobs.
We hear about that all the time in Toronto people working multiple jobs to make ends meet.

Maybe that's why marner fails in the heavy lifting part of the season? Too wore out from his 2nd. job?

 

[BallardEra]

His camp must be aiming to land at $9.5M.

 

[Divine]

Look at their history though.

Aho was already making 8..46mm per season because of the offsheet.
He's already got money in the bank because of that.
His take home is about $1mm more in NC than it would be in Ontario because of the lower tax rate.

It's like looking at MacKinnon's deal where there is no state income tax, and suggesting Matthews signing at his amount would make compensation equal.

I used to work for a bank and if you accepted a job in Toronto from a smaller city doing the exact same job they paid an extra cost of living allowance. Not sure if they still do, but it is known living in location A is unequal to living in location B.

You know Matthews gets taxed in Arizona? His entire contract is in signing bonuses which he earns on July 1st, when he resides in Arizona.

The only part of his salary that’s taxed in Toronto is half of the 700K that he earns during the season (only 50% are home games).

Can we kill the narrative Matthews is making less money because of taxes? His goal is to take home the most money in NHL history.

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Secondly, Nylander is not as good a player as Aho. The Leafs should take a Nylander for Aho trade 1 for 1 instantly. I’d be shocked if anyone in Carolina would trade Aho for Nylander, even if Nylander was making 1M less a season. Aho does more with less.

Aho was making more money because he leads his team in scoring and is a better player than Nylander. Nylander has never led his team in scoring. He’s usually not even top 3 over his career.

 

[Nineteen67]

Which years is Aho's production being "inflated" by EN points? Him also getitng those EN points happen to coincide with the role he plays on the team.

Matthews and Marner being on a different tier is obvious, and they're paid as such, and are going to be paid extraordinarily more in the near future as well.

He’s a reliable defensive C.

 

[Nineteen67]

I also don't understand the fascination with keeping the core of players that has so far collectively won 1 playoff series in 7 years.

You can change it up at this point.

The market is set.

The Leafs certainly don’t need to entertain any 10mm contracts for Nylander. 9.5 or less is an 8 yr term. Less term is less $$$.

 

[notbias]

Sure but players earn USD which also goes further in CAN.

does NC have a higher cost of living than Toronto?

There is more to that statement, a star in Toronto could get a local/ national advertising contract and make 6 figures for one days work, you won't do that in Raleigh, NC as a hockey player.

Off the top of my head Matthews has or had CCM, Apple, bet99 & RBC endorsement deals. Apparently he earned 2.3 mil from endorsments, not sure if that is lifetime or just last year .

What are Auston Matthews' contract details for the 2022-23 season?

Auston Matthews is one of the most prominent players in the National Hockey League (NHL). He plays as a center for the Toronto Maple Leafs. On Jan.

www.sportskeeda.com

Endorsements are easy work... but it is still work, it isn't like it is just free money.

 

[Dekes For Days]

You know Matthews gets taxed in Arizona? His entire contract is in signing bonuses which he earns on July 1st, when he resides in Arizona.
The only part of his salary that’s taxed in Toronto is half of the 700K that he earns during the season (only 50% are home games).
Can we kill the narrative Matthews is making less money because of taxes?

Signing bonuses are used to help offset tax disadvantages but that also means he has to have property and live in a different city and country than his home team's location during the offseason, which on top of being restricting, largely just turns those income taxes into additional property taxes and expenses.

Secondly, Nylander is not as good a player as Aho.

He's pretty darn close. Doesn't bring the PK impacts of Aho, but produces better at 5v5 and on the PP.

 

[ULF_55]

You know Matthews gets taxed in Arizona? His entire contract is in signing bonuses which he earns on July 1st, when he resides in Arizona.

The only part of his salary that’s taxed in Toronto is half of the 700K that he earns during the season (only 50% are home games).

Can we kill the narrative Matthews is making less money because of taxes? His goal is to take home the most money in NHL history.

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Secondly, Nylander is not as good a player as Aho. The Leafs should take a Nylander for Aho trade 1 for 1 instantly. I’d be shocked if anyone in Carolina would trade Aho for Nylander, even if Nylander was making 1M less a season. Aho does more with less.

Aho was making more money because he leads his team in scoring and is a better player than Nylander. Nylander has never led his team in scoring. He’s usually not even top 3 over his career.

I'd do a Aho for Nylander trade. Quite possibly do a marner for Aho trade, especially after marner's next contract. $3mm in Cap space could help land a top defender with Brodie's Cap.

Would Aho lead the Leafs in scoring if he played on the 2nd. line in Toronto?

You think he'd be playing more minutes than Matthews?

...

Great point on Matthews getting signing bonus in Arizona. Colorado is slightly higher tax rate, but still extremely low, compared to many states and all provinces.

 

[hamzarocks]

does NC have a higher cost of living than Toronto?



Endorsements are easy work... but it is still work, it isn't like it is just free money.

NC is of course LCOL vs toronto

But there are multiple benefits for toronto players that get disregarded and not factored into a contract discussion

Earning in USD while living in CAD economy

Maximum signing bonuses

Endorsment opportunities which increase income as compared to playing in a smaller market like nashville, carolina, dallas etc

Fans are happy to pretend the players have it bad playing in Toronto and deserve excess premiums over any comparables for half the term their comps sign for.

It does not make sense from a fan perspective to want to see 34 signed at 13.5M x 4 years or Marner at 12M x 5 years or Nylander at 10.5M x 8 years (he is the only one who would be unable to get a short term high value contract)

 

[notbias]

NC is of course LCOL vs toronto

But there are multiple benefits for toronto players that get disregarded and not factored into a contract discussion

Earning in USD while living in CAD economy

Maximum signing bonuses

Endorsment opportunities which increase income as compared to playing in a smaller market like nashville, carolina, dallas etc

Fans are happy to pretend the players have it bad playing in Toronto and deserve excess premiums over any comparables for half the term their comps sign for.

It does not make sense from a fan perspective to want to see 34 signed at 13.5M x 4 years or Marner at 12M x 5 years or Nylander at 10.5M x 8 years (he is the only one who would be unable to get a short term high value contract)

There are definitely benefits to living in Toronto or playing for the team, but not sure the USD vs CAD argument holds much value.

I never understood the argument of earning USD while living in Canada when I am pretty sure most things have similar prices when adjusting for exchange.

 

[Dekes For Days]

There are definitely benefits to living in Toronto or playing for the team, but not sure the USD vs CAD argument holds much value.
I never understood the argument of earning USD while living in Canada when I am pretty sure most things have similar prices when adjusting for exchange.

Yeah, it's always been a weird argument. I also imagine Matthews buys a lot of things in USD anyway, since he lives there for like half the year.

 

[Hellcat]

does NC have a higher cost of living than Toronto?



Endorsements are easy work... but it is still work, it isn't like it is just free money.

it kinda is... - if someone told me, hey you work from 5 am to midnight, for one day and all you have to do is read a teleprompter, talk, wait and be bored between "work" and you will get a 6 figure pay cheque...

 

[notbias]

it kinda is... - if someone told me, hey you work from 5 am to midnight, for one day and all you have to do is read a teleprompter, talk, wait and be bored between "work" and you will get a 6 figure pay cheque...

I am sure there is more work than that that goes into it, but regardless, it is easy work, but still work.

I also think you sell a little of your dignity for these, it isn't just time being exchanged.

 

[Hellcat]

NC is of course LCOL vs toronto

Not sure how reliable this is but Raleigh has a COL index of 80.9 (14th) and Toronto has a COL index of 73 (46th).

Northern America: Current Cost of Living Index by City

www.numbeo.com

 

[ULF_55]

Not sure how reliable this is but Raleigh has a COL index of 80.9 (14th) and Toronto has a COL index of 73 (46th).

Northern America: Current Cost of Living Index by City

www.numbeo.com

So what kind of house can you get for $1mm in Toronto (or Vancouver laugh) compared to $1mm in Raleigh? (Vancouver might get you a lot with a tear down shack.)

I know Nashville used to be so cheap compared to cities in Canada, but haven't really looked recently.

 

[Nineteen67]

So what kind of house can you get for $1mm in Toronto (or Vancouver laugh) compared to $1mm in Raleigh? (Vancouver might get you a lot with a tear down shack.)

I know Nashville used to be so cheap compared to cities in Canada, but haven't really looked recently.

It’s gotten ridiculous in Franklin. 500-600+ for a 2500 sq ft townhouse is some areas. Millions for anything with acreage.
New construction ~ 5000 sqft on 8 acres can run 3.5 million.

 

[Divine]

Not sure how reliable this is but Raleigh has a COL index of 80.9 (14th) and Toronto has a COL index of 73 (46th).

Northern America: Current Cost of Living Index by City

www.numbeo.com

The other thing to note is that all players get paid in USD.

The cost of living in Canada is high for Canadians because their salaries are much lower than the US. NHL players don’t have that problem, they all get US-equivalent salaries regardless of if they work in the US or Canada.

 

[notDatsyuk]

There is more to that statement, a star in Toronto could get a local/ national advertising contract and make 6 figures for one days work, you won't do that in Raleigh, NC as a hockey player.

Off the top of my head Matthews has or had CCM, Apple, bet99 & RBC endorsement deals. Apparently he earned 2.3 mil from endorsments, not sure if that is lifetime or just last year .

What are Auston Matthews' contract details for the 2022-23 season?

Auston Matthews is one of the most prominent players in the National Hockey League (NHL). He plays as a center for the Toronto Maple Leafs. On Jan.

www.sportskeeda.com

McDavid seven endorsements, Tavares three - everyone should want to sign in Edmonton, not Toronto.

Am I doing this right?

 

[Divine]

McDavid seven endorsements, Tavares three - everyone should want to sign in Edmonton, not Toronto.

Am I doing this right?

McDavid is from the GTA though, which helps his brand in the city.

 

[ACC1224]

McDavid seven endorsements, Tavares three - everyone should want to sign in Edmonton, not Toronto.

Am I doing this right?

I imagine McDavid has National ads as a Canadian and the best player in the game. He would have those regardless of where he plays.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I imagine McDavid has National ads as a Canadian and the best player in the game. He would have those regardless of where he plays.

Did you really think that was a serious post?