Nylander - In round 2 doing his thing.

[sxvnert]

Trade for a young top four RD or picks (that can be moved for RD).

where are you going to find 40 goals and a point a game scorer who makes plays like willy? you wont and if you do it will be another waste of 10-11M like Mitch Marner

Allow less goals against.

 

[BraveCanadian]

At this point you have to bench marner on the PP1.

Rielly isn't a shot threat, Marner isn't a shot threat, Tavares isn't a shot threat.

These takes are hilarious. Bench the most creative player they have on the PP. Sure thing, coach.

Marner does need to shoot more often to keep the opposition from assuming pass, but he actually did get a bunch of shots last game so...

 

[ULF_55]

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[BraveCanadian]

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I suggest Nylander try it for more than the last 10 minutes of the game this time and see what happens!

 

[sunstersun]

These takes are hilarious. Bench the most creative player they have on the PP. Sure thing, coach.

Marner does need to shoot more often to keep the opposition from assuming pass, but he actually did get a bunch of shots last game so...

Creative =/= effective. I'd rather have more players that can shoot versus a guy who only plays outside.

I suggest Nylander try it for more than the last 10 minutes of the game this time and see what happens!

I suggest Marner try it at all. Haven't seen it this playoffs.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Creative =/= effective. I'd rather have more players that can shoot versus a guy who only plays outside.


I suggest Marner try it at all.

Don't be silly. Marner isn't the only one playing around the outside and being too cute on the PP and moving him off it won't make it better.

 

[sunstersun]

Don't be silly. Marner isn't the only one playing around the outside and being too cute on the PP and moving him off it won't make it better.

Sure, but he doesn't have a shot. So I could see Nylander or O Rielly doing something different than Tavares and Marner.

edit: the PP1 is not marner's fault. Rielly has 0 shot, Tavares has stone hands right now.

It's just we can't have 3 players out of 5 that can't shoot on PP1.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Sure, but he doesn't have a shot. So I could see Nylander or O Rielly doing something difference than Tavares and Marner.

This just in, a back to back 30 goal scorer can't shoot.

There is zero chance of Marner coming off PP1 so why even debate it?

Nylander should probably move up and one of Tavares and ROR should drop down since they are basically the same player on the PP anyways.

 

[sunstersun]

This just in, a back to back 30 goal scorer can't shoot.

There is zero chance of Marner coming off PP1 so why even debate it?

Nylander should probably move up and one of Tavares and ROR should drop down since they are basically the same player on the PP anyways.

Perhaps, you're right about Tavares and ROR, but marner can't shoot lol. He's 0 threat to the goalie on the PP1.

 

[Dragao6]

Skilled guys will have their moments
It’s very obvious though every season he always shys away from contact in the playoffs specially which is last thing we need

So a trade is 100% in the cards. For a katchuk type, top pairing RHD or elite starting goalie. He’s a luxury, specially with what he will be asking in next contract

We’re in win now mode, picks aren’t very important

But he and keefe def need to go

 

[sunstersun]

Skilled guys will have their moments
It’s very obvious though every season he always shys away from contact in the playoffs specially which is last thing we need

So a trade is 100% in the cards. For a katchuk type, top pairing RHD or elite starting goalie. He’s a luxury, specially with what he will be asking in next contract

We’re in win now mode, picks aren’t very important

But he and keefe def need to go

Marner and Keefe gotta go. Nylander is a complete game wrecker. If he had Matthews time instead of Tavares, he'd be leading in points instead of Marner.

Tavares literally stole 3-4 points from Nylander yesterday.

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

Perhaps, you're right about Tavares and ROR, but marner can't shoot lol. He's 0 threat to the goalie on the PP1.

Marner's shooting has gotten much better over the years, but he doesn't have the velocity of a Nylander or a Matthews. I'd still want to keep Marner on PP 1 for the creativity, but ffs get Nylander back on PP1. Him and Matthews are the only one that can beat Goalies clean.

The only person I had faith to tie the game up in the third was Willy. I can't tell if he just can't do that for a full game because of fatigue or what, but it's maddening to see just how good he can be when he's moving his feet. Literally unstoppable and the Panthers (outside of Bob) have no answer for him. He may have the best combo of speed and strength on the team. He needs to use it more often.

 

[sunstersun]

Marner's shooting has gotten much better over the years, but he doesn't have the velocity of a Nylander or a Matthews. I'd still want to keep Marner on PP 1 for the creativity, but ffs get Nylander back on PP1. Him and Matthews are the only one that can beat Goalies clean.

The only person I had faith to tie the game up in the third was Willy. I can't tell if he just can't do that for a full game because of fatigue or what, but it's maddening to see just how good he can be when he's moving his feet. Literally unstoppable and the Panthers (outside of Bob) have no answer for him. He may have the best combo of speed and strength on the team. He needs to use it more often.

I fully admit Marner's shot took a big step forward this year, but it's still below average.

I think Nylander partnered up with Matthews would be much more consistent. This year Tavares was a total 0 in 5 on 5, yet Willy potted 40 without a lot of PP1 time.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Marner's shooting has gotten much better over the years, but he doesn't have the velocity of a Nylander or a Matthews. I'd still want to keep Marner on PP 1 for the creativity, but ffs get Nylander back on PP1. Him and Matthews are the only one that can beat Goalies clean.

The only person I had faith to tie the game up in the third was Willy. I can't tell if he just can't do that for a full game because of fatigue or what, but it's maddening to see just how good he can be when he's moving his feet. Literally unstoppable and the Panthers (outside of Bob) have no answer for him. He may have the best combo of speed and strength on the team. He needs to use it more often.

That is the thing, though. After years of this, we have to accept that this is what Nylander is.. sometimes he is engaged and he's a plus.. most of the time he is not and he's a minus.

 

[ULF_55]

That is the thing, though. After years of this, we have to accept that this is what Nylander is.. sometimes he is engaged and he's a plus.. most of the time he is not and he's a minus.

So you're saying he's a 60-70 goal scorer if engaged?

 

[BraveCanadian]

So you're saying he's a 60-70 goal scorer if engaged?

We'll never know.

 

[therealkoho]

Will gets the criticism he deserves, he's not being singled out. He has a bad habit of going into float mode when he needs to turn it up. It has been a knock on him since his days in Sweden both Jr and SEL, conversely he also gets the kind of praise he deserves when he gets the arses out of the seats and the chins on chests. He is probably the best skater on the team, his wrist shot is second best on the team, his HockeyQ and ability to make plays are in the top 10 percentile in the league but for some reason he's never finished in the leagues top 10 of point getters.

It's strange no? Why is that does anyone think, is it just plain old bad luck, yeah that must be it, just darned old bad luck.

 

[Skullz]

I agree. 91 should come off the PP for 88. He is so good at controlled entries, which incidentally is the biggest problem with the powerplay.

Also had the kucherov like “will he shoot or pass” going on which sets up easy tap in’s all the time.

I wonder what goes through Nylander’s head when he has the game of his life, but is stuck playing with 91, and only gets 18 minutes while his buddies play 27 minutes.

Hard not to get a little mentally checked out. Remember how good 88 always is when Matthews is hurt? He steps up when he is needed.

Keefe not only limits his ice time, but strips him off PP1 when he has been dominant on it all year, and plays him with 91 which has been a dog shit combo for two years now.

I’d be pissed if I was 88 quite frankly.

I could give a f*ck about 91 not getting points if not on PP. End of the day he does very little but shovel home loose pucks. Take him off.

 

[therealkoho]

He can be fine if he is deployed with right guys .. Willy needs to play at supersonic speed .. him Lafferty and Kerfoot would light up da Cats D .. he is not a give and goer like Matty and JT are .. he blows bye guys and then needs another guy with lighting speed to beat another D and throw a beauty pass for a tip in goal on da fly .. it is why he looked like best player on ice vs Habs who were a fast team too .. Kerfoot helps him unleash da beast

So not straight guys then?

 

[sunstersun]

I agree. 91 should come off the PP for 88. He is so good at controlled entries, which incidentally is the biggest problem with the powerplay.

Also had the kucherov like “will he shoot or pass” going on which sets up easy tap in’s all the time.

I wonder what goes through Nylander’s head when he has the game of his life, but is stuck playing with 91, and only gets 18 minutes while his buddies play 27 minutes.

Hard not to get a little mentally checked out. Remember how good 88 always is when Matthews is hurt? He steps up when he is needed.

Keefe not only limits his ice time, but strips him off PP1 when he has been dominant on it all year, and plays him with 91 which has been a dog shit combo for two years now.

I’d be pissed if I was 88 quite frankly.

I could give a f*ck about 91 not getting points if not on PP. End of the day he does very little but shovel home loose pucks. Take him off.

We're all worked up about Marner and Nylander cause it's a debate.

I think everyone on the forum recognizes the Tavares is like a 40 point, 10 goal player without PP1.

Last series outside of 1 game, and 1 fluke shot, he was horrendous completely. Nothing to redeem unlike Marner or Nylander.

 

[IPS]

We're all worked up about Marner and Nylander cause it's a debate.

I think everyone on the forum recognizes the Tavares is like a 40 point, 10 goal player without PP1.

Last series outside of 1 game, and 1 fluke shot, he was horrendous completely. Nothing to redeem unlike Marner or Nylander.

Dude who are you and why did you just randomly show up to shit on the team since they lost last night?

 

[sunstersun]

Dude who are you and why did you just randomly show up to shit on the team since they lost last night?

Sorry for offending your feelings I guess? There's too many gatekeepers here lol. Can't have an opinion anymore.

 

[IPS]

Sorry for offending your feelings I guess? There's too many gatekeepers here lol. Can't have an opinion anymore.

Nah share your opinions by all means. With the way things on these boards go I'm skeptical of anyone who just shows up out of nowhere. This board is rampant with undercover trolls.

 

[sunstersun]

Nah share your opinions by all means. With the way things on these boards go I'm skeptical of anyone who just shows up out of nowhere. This board is rampant with undercover trolls.

Well rest assured then. I ain't no troll, just a broken leafs fan since lacing em up the first time at 5 years old.

 

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He made it look easy, while the rest of the Leafs made Florida look like early 2000s Devils.

That's what game breaking speed does. Marner looked like he was skating in quicksand... His back gets progressively more humped over as the game went on. Really ugly skater. Maybe Marner is being overplayed but towards the end of last game he was really struggling to move.