Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYI] Islanders sign Brock Nelson to extension (6 year, $36 million)

[Kents polished head]

That's about 1M too much and 2 years too much IMO.

 

[SI90]

Let’s see what Kevin Hayes gets.

 

[nyscene]

When your six highest paid forwards, who are nearing (Nelson exempt here) or beyond age 30, are Brock Nelson (6 years), Andrew Ladd (4 years), Josh Bailey (five years), Cal Clutterbuck (three years), Casey Cizikas (two years), and Leo Komarov (three years) you have every right to question the longterm strategy of the front office.

You realize that 4/6 or those players were signed by a GM thats no longer with the team, right? Hard to fault LL for Snow’s deals.

The Leo contact is still terrible though.

 

[Iggys Dome]

6M is definitely a bit much...was shocked when I got the notification. Overpaid by about 1M per season IMO

 

[crasherino]

The Islanders could have extended him earlier in the year or even last summer. They probably could have locked him in for 5 x 5.5 or so. Instead, they let it play out and saw where they stood at the end of the season. He had a very good year and it probably cost them a year of term and somewhere between $500k - $1m a year. Not the end of the world and not the worst approach.

He probably could have gotten more on the open market. He was making $4.25m this year as it stands.

 

[StuckOutHere]

1. I wouldn't be surprised if Ladd is bought out if we get another set of compliance buyouts, if he doesn't I wouldn't be surprised if he finds himself on the LTIR alot

2. Cizikas had his best season ever last year

He had 33 points. Look, the market is the market. Nelson was going to get this. I get it. But just because the market is stupid doesn't mean a team needs to be.

 

[TheDoldrums]

every justification of "we can't afford to lose him" reminds me of what some Leafs fans said about the Zaitsev deal :/

 

[EveryDay]

Does that mean that MTL will have to pay Philippe Danault over 6M per year shortly? Yikes!

 

[leeroggy]

About as hard as understanding a 6x6 contract is overpaying a 45-55 point player i guess......

Who at least WON a playoff round this year, unlike the team in your profile . . . now go back to your board, I still remember trolling rules being in effect.

 

[KPower]

Lol...he’ll be back to 40 points next season after a career year of 53.

 

[StuckOutHere]

You realize that 4/6 or those players were signed by a GM thats no longer with the team, right? Hard to fault LL for Snow’s deals.

The Leo contact is still terrible though.

I'm not blaming Lou for old deals. I am blaming him for this one when he knows what deals he has on the books.

 

[SI90]

He had 33 points. Look, the market is the market. Nelson was going to get this. I get it. But just because the market is stupid doesn't mean a team needs to be.

So the islanders should have let Nelson walk. Who’s their 2nd line center next year? That can play as good as Nelson and cheaper?

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Ask the Blues how much they regret giving Bozie 5mil til hes 35... that should tell you a lot about how to evaluate this deal.

 

[Jozay]

This is a fine deal. Theres no one out there that they can replace him with, so they werent going to do better than Nelson.

 

[StuckOutHere]

So the islanders should have let Nelson walk. Who’s their 2nd line center next year? That can play as good as Nelson and cheaper?

Yes. How to replace him? I don't know, but you pay a GM millions of dollars to make smart decisions, not let the market dictate how you operate your cap.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

you just paid a consistant 40ish point 27 year old 6 million for 6 years...that seems a tad high. I'd say the same thing no matter what team signed him.

Everyone said the same thing about overpaying a consistent ~20 pts 4th liner in 2016 named Casey Cizikas. Turns out that he was arguably the MVP of a team that finished 2nd in the Metro.

Brock adds a lot more value than his consistent ~40 pts would indicate.

Edit- And the guy that got him to play that well this season, loves Brock's game. That's a huge piece.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

And people were saying 5.85 for Lindell was an overpay

 

[KingsFan7824]

Have to spend all that cap space somewhere.

For the player, it's all about timing. Career year, the team as a whole exceeds expectations. The cap is designed to keep a team's top players where they are. If you're a free agent in the right year, you can make quite a bit of money. Most post-ELC contracts either are stupid the moment they're announced, or slowly become stupid. That's just a reality.

 

[SI90]

Yes. How to replace him? I don't know, but you pay a GM millions of dollars to make smart decisions, not let the market dictate how you operate your cap.

For all we know a team could have offered him 7mil per on July 1st. The market isn’t flush with centers this year. This is what UFA is like.

 

[Shootertooter]

Wasn't Nelson on his way out? or was that just him being a potential UFA.
I think NYI over paid a bit but they have their 2C locked up for a long while.
I guess no to Duchene?

 

[StuckOutHere]

For all we know a team could have offered him 7mil per on July 1st. The market isn’t flush with centers this year. This is what UFA is like.

Let them make that mistake. That's how you win in the salary cap world. Dodge bullets and pay for prime years.

 

[hunter7isles]

Lol...he’ll be back to 40 points next season after a career year of 53.

Because? It had nothing to do with having real coaching or playing consistent time committed at center for the first time in his career?

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

So the islanders should have let Nelson walk. Who’s their 2nd line center next year? That can play as good as Nelson and cheaper?

Do Isles have a farm system with a C grooming that could put up 40pts with 2nd line minutes?

 

[Shootertooter]

This is a fine deal. Theres no one out there that they can replace him with, so they werent going to do better than Nelson.

Kevin Hayes is likely a better C.
Not sure he would sign with NYI, but I think he is better.
Likely costs around the same.

 

[hamzarocks]

If hes a 55+ point forward moving forward this is a fair deal for the isles. If he reverts back to his normal 40 point self it's a bad contract. One thing for the islanders is they seem to be able to develop late bloomers pretty well.

Hickey was a write off who had busted as a 4th overall pick. They helped develop him in a number 5 defender who can give 25 points.

Bailey was a huge disapointment the first 7 seasons of his tenure with the islanders. But he saw his game take the next step 3 years ago and he is a consistent 60ish point player now.

If they can see Nelson hit a similar curve in his development and stay at this level or even improve from being a 55 point center than 6 million is not bad at all for a 2nd line center.