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smoneil said:
Honestly, I think a lot of this goes back to the beginning of the season, when ~80% of this board had convinced themselves that this would be a year involving:

-20 year olds (LA and Chytil) and Buch putting up huge numbers
-The team losing almost every game and drafting 1st or MAYBE 2nd.

A handful of people saw that as an unlikely outcome. This franchise KNOWS how lucky they were to claw out of that negative culture pre-2005.

I honestly think that for some of you, you're more upset that you were wrong than you are about the 2 points. You want the Rangers to be something they have never been. Don't get pissed when it doesn't happen. There are other teams who embrace your philosophy. I guarantee you--Buffalo has tickets available.

And before the inevitable citations of Pittsburgh, Washington, and Chicago, I give you the following teams who are not in the playoffs this year (and the number of recent top 5 picks they've had):

Arizona: 2 in the last 10 years
Montreal: 2 in the last 10 years
Florida: 4 in the last 10 years
Flyers: 1 in the last 10 years
Canucks: 2 in the last 10 years
Edmonton: 6 in the last 10 years
Buffalo: 3 in the last 10 years
NJ: 2 in the last 10 years
Kings: 1 in the last 10 years (3 in the last 12)
Ottawa: 1 in the last 10 years

Chicago, Anaheim, Detroit, and Minnesota haven't drafted top 5 in the last 10 years


Nearly every one of these teams has picked in the top 5 AT LEAST twice recently. Yet here they are. So keep on sputtering about Pittsburgh, Washington, and Chicago. Your three outliers are clearly just that. I'll take the team that refuses to quit every single time.
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1. some of those teams are still rebuilding
2. you need a top quality coaching staff to be good, and most of those teams you listed do not.
 
So that’s that, wish I could say it was a good season. Was not watching this team most nights but certainly some highlights with the young guys and Mika having a career season. We departed with another fan favorite, saw some young guys develop nicely and show promise. Will hopefully have 3 or 4 1st round picks, and we did not kill eachother on here, always a plus. Lol.

But thanks for joking and posting with me this season, you guys made the experience of a disappointing season a lot more fun posting on here. Been very entertaining here. I guess the next thing to do, is to discuss the draft and next season.
 
WeNeverGetaGoodCoach said:
I want Winnipeg to face Nashville in 1st round that way I think there is a bigger chance Jets get eliminated in the 1st round.
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I think the Blues are a better overall team right now out of all the three. Plus I think it doesn't matter if they get eliminated in the first or second but I see what you're saying
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
They literally were last in the league in ROW.
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Which means that they played a lot of tight games and were consistently competitive. This team was never going to win a ton of games. But it's a good thing, for the development of the younger players and to keep the right kind of culture, that they always had a CHANCE to win those games. When players start mailing it in, it's a huge problem for the whole locker room.
 
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Machinehead said:
Before this season I would have liked:

-To finish in the standings commensurate with our actual play ❌
-Significant strides from Chytil and Andersson ❌
-Pionk to show me his awful corsi from last year was misleading and/or the team shows me they have no use for him ❌
-Zibanejad to elevate himself to a finished-product piece ✔️
-Hey, at least Kreider might score 30! ❌

1 out of 5. Welcome to being a Rangers fan.
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My criteria were a little less specific.

1.) Did they work hard? Absolutely, with occasional games here and there where they didn’t. Very rarely outworked.

2.) Did the young players do good things? While Chytil I thought had a solid rookie year, he didn’t wow me. Andersson didn’t establish himself like I would have liked. HOWEVER, the story of our youth this season is about 3 players: Buchnevich, DeAngelo, and Georgiev. These three guys showed massive strides and, for me, made the season a great one.

3.) Did the team do something on the ice to make us proud? For me, this is also an unequivocal yes. Like I mentioned last night, it’s the fact that they never throw in the towel. There’s no quit there.

Three for three. Successful rebuilding year, for me.
 
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Machinehead said:
Before this season I would have liked:

-To finish in the standings commensurate with our actual play ❌
-Significant strides from Chytil and Andersson ❌
-Pionk to show me his awful corsi from last year was misleading and/or the team shows me they have no use for him ❌
-Zibanejad to elevate himself to a finished-product piece ✔️
-Hey, at least Kreider might score 30! ❌

1 out of 5. Welcome to being a Rangers fan.
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Please stop being a downer. There were alot of positives this year. Zibs and Krieder had good seasons. Georgiev proved to be more than capable. Quinn got this team to be competiitve and play hard nearly every night. Chytil, Anderson, and Howden got some valuable playing time and should be better next year. Strome was an unexpected find. Hajek looked really good in his short stint. Buchnevich looked like the player we thought he could be. They picked lemieux who looks like a player and plays with an edge. Deangelo make some strides and was their best Dman. They have mutiple first rounders again this year with as many as 4 a possibility. A lot of good things that is missed by so many here who just want to whine.
 
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I hate the loser point so much, I really wished it could done away it. I’ll take it being replaced by a SOL point and have OT be 10 minutes with 4 v 4 and 3 v 3 split up. But no, NHL wants this fake parity that really is just propping up records disingenuously.
 
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Mandar said:
Hey....no 3 stars poll?

Hehehehe....
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Team tank 1st star: Lias. Got a penalty right after the tying goal by Skjei
Tem tank 2nd star: Pionk. Did everything he could. Wasn't enough
Team tank 3rd star: Kreider. Invisible

Team f*ck the rebuild 1st star: Georgiev
Team f*ck the rebuild 2nd star: Strome
Team f*ck the rebuild Namestnikov
 
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Tawnos said:
My criteria were a little less specific.

1.) Did they work hard? Absolutely, with occasional games here and there where they didn’t. Very rarely outworked.

2.) Did the young players do good things? While Chytil I thought had a solid rookie year, he didn’t wow me. Andersson didn’t establish himself like I would have liked. HOWEVER, the story of our youth this season is about 3 players: Buchnevich, DeAngelo, and Georgiev. These three guys showed massive strides and, for me, made the season a great one.

3.) Did the team do something on the ice to make us proud? For me, this is also an unequivocal yes. Like I mentioned last night, it’s the fact that they never throw in the towel. There’s no quit there.

Three for three. Successful rebuilding year, for me.
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1)Yeah they worked hard. And the teams that didn't work hard will get Hughes and Kakko. I totally get where you're coming from, but again, there's zero justice in this sport. Nobody cares if you work for something. The NHL is not a meritocracy.

2)Sure, I'll give you Buchnevich, ADA, and Georgiev, but are any of those players part of the finished product?

3)Proud? Nah. There's nothing really to be proud of here. Hard work shouldn't make you proud, hard work should be prerequisite to existing in this league.

They're the worst team in the NHL.
 
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Tawnos said:
My criteria were a little less specific.

1.) Did they work hard? Absolutely, with occasional games here and there where they didn’t. Very rarely outworked.

2.) Did the young players do good things? While Chytil I thought had a solid rookie year, he didn’t wow me. Andersson didn’t establish himself like I would have liked. HOWEVER, the story of our youth this season is about 3 players: Buchnevich, DeAngelo, and Georgiev. These three guys showed massive strides and, for me, made the season a great one.

3.) Did the team do something on the ice to make us proud? For me, this is also an unequivocal yes. Like I mentioned last night, it’s the fact that they never throw in the towel. There’s no quit there.

Three for three. Successful rebuilding year, for me.
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Its all about perspective which is lost on so many here.
 
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Tawnos said:
My criteria were a little less specific.

1.) Did they work hard? Absolutely, with occasional games here and there where they didn’t. Very rarely outworked.

2.) Did the young players do good things? While Chytil I thought had a solid rookie year, he didn’t wow me. Andersson didn’t establish himself like I would have liked. HOWEVER, the story of our youth this season is about 3 players: Buchnevich, DeAngelo, and Georgiev. These three guys showed massive strides and, for me, made the season a great one.

3.) Did the team do something on the ice to make us proud? For me, this is also an unequivocal yes. Like I mentioned last night, it’s the fact that they never throw in the towel. There’s no quit there.

Three for three. Successful rebuilding year, for me.
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There’s no question they have moved in the right direction. I also think Quinn has been very good like you said with some of the young guys with their development. Buch, Howden, and ADA were the ones I thought saw good development. I also think he handled Namestnikov very well, ever since he got scratched he was a much better player.

Chytil is still young, and think he had a good season for a rookie it was like you said not wow. I also want to give Andersson more time as well. But this season definitely in the write direction even if there were some bad games, and just not a winning season.
 
DaBadGuy7 said:
I hate the loser point so much, I really wished it could done away it. I’ll take it being replaced by a SOL point and have OT be 10 minutes with 4 v 4 and 3 v 3 split up. But no, NHL wants this fake parity that really is just propping up records disingenuously.
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I agree with what you're saying, but exercises with different point systems don't really demonstrate any less parity.

The fake parity comes from the cap system.
 
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Machinehead said:
Glad they're not in the Kakko spot.

Still sucks that LA probably gets him. They just won two Cups and they get a franchise forward the likes of which we've never had.

Henry VIII would look at this sport and cringe at the lack of justice.
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That franchise is a mess though. Kupari-Kakko is a nice 1-2 punch but those contracts are killing them. They might get top picks for three more years simply because they can’t move their aging vets.
 
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