Post-Game Talk: November fun over, Leafs lose again 5-2

[wingman75]

Leadership starts at the top. And there was no one home tonight.

I feel like after nights like this, Berube is sipping a nice scotch and saying to himself, 'oh, now I get it'. And raises his glass to Babs and Keefer.

 

[Stephen]

Yea, I don't necessairly care what the problem is. But he's extremely ineffective, all over the ice. He's kinda useless to the team if he cannot be 'him'.

Yeah like he has no normal B game. It’s either going to be an A or it’s an F right now.

 

[thewave]

I feel like after nights like this, Berube is sipping a nice scotch and saying to himself, 'oh, now I get it'. And raises his glass to Babs and Keefer.

It's like he discovered a disease.

 

[wingman75]

Weak to blame Woll for this.

There were a few factors.

Wes, Berube stapling MM AM together.

Nothing from depth

yea, Woll made plenty good saves after he let the weak one in. And the game was tied at 2 after he let the weak one in. I feel if you are level, anything before that doesn't matter.

Boys didn't get it done. Posts, penalties and p***yes.

 

[Evilhomer]

This team is in big trouble. Good chance they miss the playoffs.

The goaltending has been absolutely putrid the last two games.

Rebuild?

 

[hockeyes]

I will say the heat on Mitch has been like 80-20 over their careers where it should be more like 51-49. Mitch gets the flogging but Auston just gets rewarded with more, more every time. We look around and this guy is the highest paid player in the game, was gifted the captaincy and is having the worst season of his career.

Goal scorers always get the benefit of the doubt because that is ultimately what is most important. It's obviously not a complete picture, but just the way it's always been.

 

[Stephen]

I feel like after nights like this, Berube is sipping a nice scotch and saying to himself, 'oh, now I get it'. And raises his glass to Babs and Keefer.

Yeah I feel like Babcock grasped the fatal flaw with Auston Mitch Willie after the first training camp.

 

[wingman75]

Yeah like he has no normal B game. It’s either going to be an A or it’s an F right now.

I used to say that about Mitch... the gap in his good and bad games was so wide... he has corrected that imo. Matthews has gone the other way lol.

 

[weems]

Dewar better start winning faceoffs at a better clip.

41% overall, 38.7% on draws in the defensive zone.

Kampf gets lots of criticism and ya his contract isn't good but he's way more reliable taking draws.

 

[wingman75]

Yeah I feel like Babcock grasped the fatal flaw with Auston Mitch Willie after the first training camp.

100% he did. He read these guys like an old book. I hated his ways but he was always right about the players and what they needed. Too bad he is a sociopath.

 

[Cleetus]

Rebuild?

think you found someone more down on this team than me lol

 

[LaPlante94]

So many injuries you'd think you'd spread out the offence a bit with all these 11 million dollar forwards instead of relying on players that have shown they can't really produce in the NHL that well or stay on their feet.

 

[arso40]

Is it me or is myers not an nhl defencemen ? Definitely not a top 4

 

[wingman75]

It's like he discovered a disease.

Leafitis?

Is it me or is myers not an nhl defencemen ? Definitely not a top 4

He's doing his best. Was really good last night. Figting it a bit tonight. He is a 7 on this team with everyone back. Good depth piece.

 

[Nineteen67]

December schedule is tough for every team. I expect a lot of teams to gave clunkers like we saw tonight.

 

[wingman75]

December schedule is tough for every team. I expect a lot of teams to gave clunkers like we saw tonight.

Devils, Ducks, Wings next week. 2-1 is an absolute minimum imo.

 

[Stephen]

Goal scorers always get the benefit of the doubt because that is ultimately what is most important. It's obviously not a complete picture, but just the way it's always been.

I agree that’s the nature of goal scorers but throughout the history of the game they’re not the most important at all when it comes to winning and especially not when the program is goal scorer superstar led.

1960s Bobby Hull, and Chicago. Consistently beaten by deeper, better two way programs in Toronto and Montreal.

1990s Brett Hull, not a serious cup threat until he was a little older and landed on a Dallas team with everything else.

1990s-2000s Teemu Selanne, not really part of any successful club until his later years in Anaheim when they put everything together and he was a veteran.

1990s-2000s Pavel Bure, not exactly a player you could build a contender around on a consistent basis.

2000s-2010s Alexander Ovechkin, massive underachiever in the playoffs until that one special year.

2010s Steven Stamkos, basically only won when the supporting cast around him surpassed him.

 

[Stephen]

Is it me or is myers not an nhl defencemen ? Definitely not a top 4

He looked pretty good. And then scrambly and awful.

 

[wingman75]

Coaches seem to get mesmerized by the 34-16 combo. It should be used as an energy builder, not the norm.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

f***ing inexcusable to drop both our games in hand on Florida in regulation. Learn to score more than two goals for f***’s sake.

 

[MSZ]

December schedule is tough for every team. I expect a lot of teams to gave clunkers like we saw tonight.

Washington and Vegas are having no problems winning back to back games. This Leafs team just didn't show up.

 

[Leafs4Life77]

Hot take central in here tonight

Maybe give our best player who has been back for just a week (and still has 7 points) a bit of a leash.

He’s only won the rocket three of the last four seasons but go off on how we should trade him and how he’s killing our team. My god.

 

[wingman75]

Washington and Vegas are having no problems winning back to back games. This Leafs team just didn't show up.

I think they were 3-1-1 coming in... but they needed to win one of those games this weekend.

 

[hockeyes]

f***ing inexcusable to drop both our games in hand on Florida in regulation. Learn to score more than two goals for f***’s sake.

It's the playoffs, things tighten up out there... oh nm

 

[ACC1224]

Coaches seem to get mesmerized by the 34-16 combo. It should be used as an energy builder, not the norm.

I really thought after last night they would have went back to Tavares and Marner.