Confirmed Trade: [NJD/EDM] Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson ‎- Part 2

[Caged Great]

The way I view this is the Oilers basically drafted an NHL ready defenseman in Larsson with the 4th overall pick and saved some cash in the meantime.

The difference between Puljujarvi and Hall will be minimal once Puljujarvi plays, because he is a high impact forward, just as Hall was. They reset the clock in terms of forward age as well and are in the process of undoing the incompetence that has plagued the Oilers since 2006. None of the 1st round picks from 2007-2013 were as good as Oiler fans were sold. They had the expectations that they would be the 80's Oilers all over again, and those players simply were not that good.

Now they have a good forward group with McDavid/Draisaitl/Puljujarvi and now a decent group with Larsson/Nurse/Klefbom.

This is the kind of move that needed to be made, and probably should have been made 2-3 years ago (Say by drafting other players instead of Yakupov).

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

Am I the only Oiler fan who likes this?

Then again, always liked Larsson. I don't mind overpaying at all for him.

 

[The Madrigal]

I don't get the outrage of Oilers fans, nor do I understand so many people thinking this was a horrible trade for Edmonton. Young top 4 defenseman with Larsson's ability and upside are at such a premium in this league. I think for this to be a good trade for Edmonton Larsson needs to continue to get better over the next few years but at his age and with his skill set there is no reason to think that won't happen. For New Jersey, they get an absolute stud point producing winger in his prime, but they gave up a really good young player/asset in the process.

People always want to say this team won the trade or that team won the trade and overreact to an extreme opinion, but in my opinion this is the definition of a true hockey move which makes sense for and benefits both teams.

 

[6 God]

Don't worry, the oilers now have Larsson who is an excellent breakout passer....oh wait

https://vine.co/v/OLaYmgZwvb1

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I'm surprised that no other team stepped up to top what NJ was offering. Or is it just a case that Chia ran out of patience, much like the Reinhart deal last year.
Other GM's must be kicking themselves after missing out on Hall.

 

[Static]

One bad trade doesn't change anything

Only that NHL GMs have different valuations than fans.

 

[scott99]

This trade was highway Larssony.

Assuming someone has made that pun already

You're a couple hours late my friend

 

[WesMcCauley]

Not true. Johansen is a well rounded two way player. Hall is O only, cherry picker, selfish with the puck. Hard to win with. Not > Johansen.

Ryjo was trade for beeing bad defensivly, sloppy, lazy etc. He is definetly not a very good defensive player. I am not gonna say one is better than the other but saying Ryjo is a well rounded twoway player isnt really true.

 

[Lehkonen4Calder]

Seems like an even swap to me.

Two guys who have never been able to live up to their draft hype.

Taylor Hall is a career 71 point per 82 game, yeah he suck so much

 

[-DeMo-]

I feel like this is going to be one of those trades where everyone thinks the Devils won but in 2 years everyone will know the Oilers won, Larsson is so underrated it's unreal.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Am I the only Oiler fan who likes this?

Then again, always liked Larsson. I don't mind overpaying at all for him.

I don't hate it, I understand that the price needed to be paid

 

[Ace]

Two things I said came true today.

1. Chia is a terrible GM who should be out of work. Oilers fans tried to ignore the Reinhart trade and god knows they had excuses for the Seguin trade disaster...but he is who he is. And he just showed up again.

2. The next time a top winger returns a #1 dman you let me know. Until then...

 

[Plub]

Karlson
Burns
Letang
Josi
Klingberg
Gio
OEL
BUff
Suter
Doughty
Weber
Subban
Barrie
Seabrook
Hedman
Yandle
Ghost
BRodie
Shatty
Krug
Keith
Risto
Muzzin
Leddy
Vlasic
Carlson
Vatanen
Pietro
Faulk
Goli
Rielly
Ekblad
Ekholm
Beuch
MCD
Stralman
Parayko
Ellis
Niskanen
Seth Jones
Daley
Lindholm
Fowler
Meyers
Klein
Dumba
Hanifin
Braun
Oduya
Trouba
Alzner


I'd put all of them ahead of Larsson. How many wingers would you put ahead of Hall?

 

[BruinLVGA]

I see Chiarelli is leaving his mark on Edmonton too, trade wise.
Well, congratulations to NJ.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Ghod danm why couldn't it have been Ceci + for hall? Ceci isn't even that far back from Larsson.

Chirallei is an awful GM.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

john kordic for russ courtnall.
Ruslan Zainullin for Marc Savard


but this deal is awful. oil should have gotten back a top prospect, or a first or second.

I mean maybe a oel for hall straight up might be interesting. a top ten scorer and top 5 winger only gets larsson? wow.

Nothing wrong with critiquing the trade, but OEL > Hall. It's not a comparable value.

 

[scott99]

Taylor Hall is a career 71 point per 82 game, yeah he suck so much

28 goals per 82 games too. He's a good one, worth way more than Larsson.

 

[Lehkonen4Calder]

Ryjo was trade for beeing bad defensivly, sloppy, lazy etc. He is definetly not a very good defensive player. I am not gonna say one is better than the other but saying Ryjo is a well rounded twoway player isnt really true.

Hall is better. You can say he had a subpar year but Johansen had 14 goals and 59 point

 

[SouthWest]

Based on what exactly???

Ryjo is a 6'3 220 centre - who is a defensively sound talented playmaker. 60-75 pts with previous 30 goal seasons an no injury history.

So to put it bluntly, he's actually better at everything.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I feel like this is going to be one of those trades where everyone thinks the Devils won but in 2 years everyone will know the Oilers won, Larsson is so underrated it's unreal.

He is underrated. But someone like Hamonic is better.

 

[CanuckGame39]

I love this trade only because Oilers fans talked so much **** about the Gudbranson trade.

This Hall Larsson trade makes it look like Benning pulled some Chris angel **** to fleece the Panthers.

 

[Traitor Zach]

They must have thought they were getting Oliver Ekman-Larsson because Larsson isn't even good lol.

He'd be your number one defenseman so pipe down. Can't wait to watch Hall embarrass the group of zombies the Rangers will field on defense next season.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Karlson
Burns
Letang
Josi
Klingberg
Gio
OEL
BUff
Suter
Doughty
Weber
Subban
Barrie
Seabrook
Hedman
Yandle
Ghost
BRodie
Shatty
Krug
Keith
Risto
Muzzin
Leddy
Vlasic
Carlson
Vatanen
Pietro
Faulk
Goli
Rielly
Ekblad
Ekholm
Beuch
MCD
Stralman
Parayko
Ellis
Niskanen
Seth Jones
Daley
Lindholm
Fowler
Meyers
Klein
Dumba
Hanifin
Braun
Oduya
Trouba
Alzner


I'd put all of them ahead of Larsson. How many wingers would you put ahead of Hall?

whats more a valuable...a 23 min/night defenseman or a winger?

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Karlson
Burns
Letang
Josi
Klingberg
Gio
OEL
BUff
Suter
Doughty
Weber
Subban
Barrie
Seabrook
Hedman
Yandle
Ghost
BRodie
Shatty
Krug
Keith
Risto
Muzzin
Leddy
Vlasic
Carlson
Vatanen
Pietro
Faulk
Goli
Rielly
Ekblad
Ekholm
Beuch
MCD
Stralman
Parayko
Ellis
Niskanen
Seth Jones
Daley
Lindholm
Fowler
Meyers
Klein
Dumba
Hanifin
Braun
Oduya
Trouba
Alzner


I'd put all of them ahead of Larsson. How many wingers would you put ahead of Hall?

Dumba, Myers, Oduya, Daley, Ellis, Goligoski, Krug, surely you jest

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

It was on CHED630, it's over now. Sorry. They'll probably have it somewhere later.

Alright, thanks. Just wanted to see Hall's reaction.