Confirmed Trade: [NJD/EDM] Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson ‎- Part 2

[Beerz]

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

I don't get the outrage of Oilers fans, nor do I understand so many people thinking this was a horrible trade for Edmonton. Young top 4 defenseman with Larsson's ability and upside are at such a premium in this league. I think for this to be a good trade for Edmonton Larsson needs to continue to get better over the next few years but at his age and with his skill set there is no reason to think that won't happen. For New Jersey, they get an absolute stud point producing winger in his prime, but they gave up a really good young player/asset in the process.

People always want to say this team won the trade or that team won the trade and overreact to an extreme opinion, but in my opinion this is the definition of a true hockey move which makes sense for and benefits both teams.

Agreed, we needed to lose a trade to shore up the defence, something a lot of Oil fans have been clamouring for. I know it sucks to lose Hall, but I think getting Pool Party made this decision easier.

Jersey fans hate Larsson being traded as well. Both guys meant a lot to the teams.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I love this trade only because Oilers fans talked so much **** about the Gudbranson trade.

This Hall Larsson trade makes it look like Benning pulled some Chris angel **** to fleece the Panthers.

Benning is still Benning

 

[Archangel]

Oiler fans need to step away from the ledge

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Now Oilers fans know for sure what we meant about Chiarelli.

 

[Janks]

Karlson
Burns
Letang
Josi
Klingberg
Gio
OEL
BUff
Suter
Doughty
Weber
Subban
Barrie
Seabrook
Hedman
Yandle
Ghost
BRodie
Shatty
Krug
Keith
Risto
Muzzin
Leddy
Vlasic
Carlson
Vatanen
Pietro
Faulk
Goli
Rielly
Ekblad
Ekholm
Beuch
MCD
Stralman
Parayko
Ellis
Niskanen
Seth Jones
Daley
Lindholm
Fowler
Meyers
Klein
Dumba
Hanifin
Braun
Oduya
Trouba
Alzner


I'd put all of them ahead of Larsson. How many wingers would you put ahead of Hall?

There is some maybes in this list - but you're not wrong. Hall is on the short list for LW - Top 10 easily. Top 7 potentially.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Benning is still Benning

Well he learned from the master, Chairelli.

 

[SEALBound]

Karlson
Burns
Letang
Josi
Klingberg
Gio
OEL
BUff
Suter
Doughty
Weber
Subban
Barrie
Seabrook
Hedman
Yandle
Ghost
BRodie
Shatty
Krug
Keith
Risto
Muzzin
Leddy
Vlasic
Carlson
Vatanen
Pietro
Faulk
Goli
Rielly
Ekblad
Ekholm
Beuch
MCD
Stralman
Parayko
Ellis
Niskanen
Seth Jones
Daley
Lindholm
Fowler
Meyers
Klein
Dumba
Hanifin
Braun
Oduya
Trouba
Alzner


I'd put all of them ahead of Larsson. How many wingers would you put ahead of Hall?

How many of them are available?

Of the available, how many teams want to trade with Edmonton?

Of those teams, who needs a LW?

Of those that do, who can afford to send the dman out for a LW coming back?

Of those that can, how many can easily take on Hall's cap hit?

HF Board tends to get tunnel vision during trade talks and only look at trades based purely on 1:1 value.

 

[WesMcCauley]

The sad thing for Edm is that they moved their most valuable player(except Mcjesus) and didnt get a top pair defensemen in return....

 

[CanuckGame39]

whats more a valuable...a 23 min/night defenseman or a winger?

What's more valuable. Top 5 LW In the world, or a #4 defenceman?

 

[Smeagoal]

Karlson
Burns
Letang
Josi
Klingberg
Gio
OEL
BUff
Suter
Doughty
Weber
Subban
Barrie
Seabrook
Hedman
Yandle
Ghost
BRodie
Shatty
Krug
Keith
Risto
Muzzin
Leddy
Vlasic
Carlson
Vatanen
Pietro
Faulk
Goli
Rielly
Ekblad
Ekholm
Beuch
MCD
Stralman
Parayko
Ellis
Niskanen
Seth Jones
Daley
Lindholm
Fowler
Meyers
Klein
Dumba
Hanifin
Braun
Oduya
Trouba
Alzner


I'd put all of them ahead of Larsson. How many wingers would you put ahead of Hall?

Idk about bolded, but I get your point. Still sad to see Hall go

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

Chia has now traded the 1st and 2nd overall from the 2010 draft for a massive underpayment. Just crazy.

 

[King1s]

Now Oilers fans know for sure what we meant about Chiarelli.

I bet most of them are still defending chiaturd.

 

[Divine]

He's not going anywhere. He will never be a Leaf just like Stamkos will never be a Leaf. Get over it.

Did you miss the if?

 

[goonybird]

Karlson
Burns
Letang
Josi
Klingberg
Gio
OEL
BUff
Suter
Doughty
Weber
Subban
Barrie
Seabrook
Hedman
Yandle
Ghost
BRodie
Shatty
Krug
Keith
Risto
Muzzin
Leddy
Vlasic
Carlson
Vatanen
Pietro
Faulk
Goli
Rielly
Ekblad
Ekholm
Beuch
MCD
Stralman
Parayko
Ellis
Niskanen
Seth Jones
Daley
Lindholm
Fowler
Meyers
Klein
Dumba
Hanifin
Braun
Oduya
Trouba
Alzner


I'd put all of them ahead of Larsson. How many wingers would you put ahead of Hall?

the struggle to understand this assessment is hurting my head

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

What's more valuable. Top 5 LW In the world, or a #4 defenceman?

right now? Hall>Larsson

Chia traded from a position of strength and got a potential top-pairing d-man

how many wingers get traded for defensemen?

 

[CanuckGame39]

How many of them are available?

Probably quite a few if Taylor Hall is on the table, and the other GM knows he's about to negotiate with Chia.

 

[The Madrigal]

Adam Larsson is 23 years old which is very young for an NHL defenseman and is just starting to scratch the surface of his full upside. I think it's going to be very interesting to look back at people's reactions to this trade from today, in about 2 or 3 years.

 

[Faax]

Canadian teams only know how to get fleeced, this is pathetic

 

[Jeremy2020]

Subban for Hall sounds a lot better. How did that not get done?

 

[Paxon]

whats more a valuable...a 23 min/night defenseman or a winger?

Depends what that defenseman brings those 23 minutes a night. It takes a certain type to be able to passably play 23 minutes a night in the NHL, but not all of those both capable and asked to do it necessarily should ideally be doing it. Also, you're attaching a positive benchmark to the defenseman and none to the winger. If the winger is one of the best wingers in the sport and the 23 minute defenseman simply brings 23 passable minutes (not saying that's specifically Larsson), the answer, in a vacuum, is easily the winger. You're not asking a fair question really.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Chia has now traded the 1st and 2nd overall from the 2010 draft for a massive underpayment. Just crazy.

Seguin and Hall for Eriksson, Larsson, Rielly Smith and Joe Morrow.

 

[WesMcCauley]

There is some maybes in this list - but you're not wrong. Hall is on the short list for LW - Top 10 easily. Top 7 potentially.

Benn
Ovi
Hall
Gaudreau

Hall is definetly a top 5 LW. Im a NYR fan and it sucks for me because Hall will destroy Girardi....

 

[777]

That's hilarious

wow what a day in the NHL.

 

[YourARumour]

Come December when we're in a playoff spot fighting for 4/5/6 th in the west , this will not hurt so much , but right now it hurts