Gallagbi
Formerly Eazy_B97
- Jul 5, 2005
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Wasnt my trade proposalIf you believe Brodie is better and it's not close...why the hell are we making or d core worse?
Wasnt my trade proposalIf you believe Brodie is better and it's not close...why the hell are we making or d core worse?
Not a chance. A stud prospect and a 1st for a pending UFA 5 D that's picking his destination? No way.To get Zadorov you’re gonna have to give up a first , Minten, or Robertson . You think the cost is worth it ? Not to mention giving up another asset to get rid of Klingberg.
TJ Brodie back to Calgary @ $5 mil for Zadorov $3.750 mil = + $1.25 mil additional cap space and then allows the Leafs to carry an extra depth player.
Calgary has 0 cap space. So the contract going back would have to work for them. If you want them to take Klingberg ya gotta sweeten the pot with a prospect or something.So we get worse, but have cap space? Seems like a solid trade...
Likely if we are looking at Zadorov, we are sending back our worst D which is Klingberg.
The same thing happens... we get cap, but this time we get better.
Also, if we get Zadorov, unless Gio is sitting (doubt it, one of the only D who can play defense), we have too many LDs.
Not sure anyone can play their off-side outside of Brodie effectively.
Calgary has 0 cap space. So the contract going back would have to work for them. If you want them to take Klingberg ya gotta sweeten the pot with a prospect or something.
Not sure how effectively but I believe McCabe can.So we get worse, but have cap space? Seems like a solid trade...
Likely if we are looking at Zadorov, we are sending back our worst D which is Klingberg.
The same thing happens... we get cap, but this time we get better.
Also, if we get Zadorov, unless Gio is sitting (doubt it, one of the only D who can play defense), we have too many LDs.
Not sure anyone can play their off-side outside of Brodie effectively.
Not sure how effectively but I believe McCabe can.
For now maybe, but if we do grab Zaddy I think we are still one D short. A partner for Rielly. Gio should be at best the #7 after the TDL.I think Gio is our best option on the right actually... but I think Rielly, Zadorov, and McCabe have all played RD at some point but ineffectively.
They had McCabe on RD last night with Gio, so id assume Gio is behind McCabe thereI think Gio is our best option on the right actually... but I think Rielly, Zadorov, and McCabe have all played RD at some point but ineffectively.
For now maybe, but if we do grab Zaddy I think we are still one D short. A partner for Rielly. Gio should be at best the #7 after the TDL.
I mean we got a gift horse demanding a trade and requesting his destination. We're not going to get a better price than right now. If you want to go into the playoffs with that 3rd pairing I think you're wearing the rose coloured glasses friend. And I don't mean that as an insult I just can't look at that D lineup and see anything but far below average and slow and soft.Brodie and Rielly as a pairing have been producing well, not sure we need someone for him...
I'd just like to see our D healthy and a lineup of:
Rielly - Brodie
McCabe - Liljegren
Gio - Timmins
and see how they perform before we start throwing assets at something that may not be a problem
I mean we got a gift horse demanding a trade and requesting his destination. We're not going to get a better price than right now. If you want to go into the playoffs with that 3rd pairing I think you're wearing the rose coloured glasses friend. And I don't mean that as an insult I just can't look at that D lineup and see anything but far below average and slow and soft.
No I don't think it would be a night and day change either. But he would certainly be an improvement and bring a lot of what our D core lacks. Not sure what the price is but I wouldn't give up a 1st. I would be comfortable with Klingberg, a 3rd, and a longshot prospect.I think Zadorov is just overrated cause he is big... but like I said, he is having a good season... just think he is generally a 3rd pairing D and people are acting like he will drastically improve our D.
To get Zadorov you’re gonna have to give up a first , Minten, or Robertson . You think the cost is worth it ? Not to mention giving up another asset to get rid of Klingberg.
What would it cost to unload Klingberg and his $4.15m cap hit? What interest would CGY have in taking him back in a trade all for a measly 3rd or 4th round pick + giving up Zadorov? It's laughable.That's what most teams would probably want to give up for a bottom pairing pending UFA on a bad team who gets very limited special teams usage and has demanded a trade with a 10 team NMC. His value is getting inflated on here because
A. Muh hits
B. The Leafs want him (and could use him)
Zadorov is a kind of luke Schenn who cost a 3rd pick last season. Hes nothing else than a 3rd pair physical Dman.
Maybe thats what calgary will ask right now but i guarantee you, nobody will pay that price for a ufa Zadorov
Look at the Chiarot return... GMs are dumb enough to give up a lot for big physical players even if they aren't anything special
Our GM is one of the GMs who really values the things that Zadorov brings
I can see someone giving a 1st for him
Agreed. Could see a lesser package working easily though.Chiarot played in a top pair from a team who reached stanley cup the year before, Zadorov is a carreer 3rd pair dman whos never be anything else.. your comparaison is not really good sorry...
Let's never forget that the lottery and the tank is real, and that Calgary is chasing a top 3 pick atm.Please don't embarrass us and post this on the main boards
Could be a good fit... But who do we give up? Do we have enough cap to resign him.
Chiarot played in a top pair from a team who reached stanley cup the year before, Zadorov is a carreer 3rd pair dman whos never be anything else.. your comparaison is not really good sorry...
And avanced stats doesn't tell everything exemple than chiarot played against top opposite line ( exemple playing everything matthews-Marner) and Zadorov played a limited role against weaker matchup. So yes maybe at the end playing against kampf, you will look better on stats than playing vs matthews shift after shift ... ( its just an exemple)View attachment 766886
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Here are his amazing stats from that run... he is and was worse than Zadorov.
Using TOI as an indicator of how good a player is is dumb.
And avanced stats doesn't tell everything exemple than chiarot played against top opposite line ( exemple playing everything matthews-Marner) and Zadorov played a limited role against weaker matchup. So yes maybe at the end playing against kampf, you will look better on stats than playing vs matthews shift after shift ... ( its just an exemple)
So at the end you can be pro avanced stats or not, the fact is chiarot still helped habs to reach stanley cup by playing in top pair and Zadorov played pratically his entire carreer maybe outside when he played in Chicago on a 3rd pair. So yes team will be more interest on the guy who reached the stanley cup on top pair than the guy who never won anything playing in a 3rd pair