Rumor: Nikita Zadorov Would Welcome Move To Toronto

[arso40]

Not so sure Tanev is worth that, his contract is expiring, he has apparently been playing hurt(mentioned on the broadcast briefly) and also has a bit of a history with missing time.

I know you can't let history of injury hold you back, but Nolan, Foligno and a few other head shaking trades should be enough to give you pause. Including solid young talent in trades, players that will be on affordable contracts going forward, is a game where the cost almost never covers the benefits.

Let's just say you overpay for a player like Tanev, he plays all the games and gives you good service, but not a cup. The question becomes can you afford to re-up an aging guy who's going to want more money than you can or should spend. In the end in that case what do you end up with?

You can't win'em all, but if you want to win it all, then you absolutely have to win the high cost trades by either bringing a cup home or by having a really solid leader in the dressing room for a few years.

Exactly why I try with peeke

 

[thusk]

No nothing like that although it's been awhile since I was hanging around in that bar.

but anything is possible, I suppose!

The only way it works though is if at least one of those guys stay

Zadorov likely to want a 4-6 year deal somewhere in the neighborhood of 5-5.5m

Hanifin 5-7 years in the neighborhood of 7-8.5 m

But if they deal Mintz, then it is imperative that they hold on to both Knies and Robbie (and really hope Cowboy fulfills his promise) and to do that AND keep Filthy Billy then one of the other bloated contracts will have to go. There is no other way around it.

If Zadorov win 5-5,5M. He will become the highest 3rd pair dman of NHL.

Hanifin around 6,5- 7M would be a good range, similar to hampus Lindholm deal

 

[Jozay]

Going all in Zadorov and Tanev is such a Treliving thing to do, I actually believe it lol

 

[arso40]

If Zadorov win 5-5,5M. He will become the highest 3rd pair dman of NHL.

Hanifin around 6,5- 7M would be a good range, similar to hampus Lindholm deal

If we’re trading for hanifan i still want peeke Brodie and klingberg both go I want mccabe gone too but that could wait for off season

 

[therealkoho]

Soucy would have been great. I wonder if they tried? He may have wanted to stay out west.

Agree with the bolded though.

Or maybe just wanted nothing to do with LeaFland

 

[darrylsittler27]

Zadorov ain't worth a first. Dream on.He would already be gone.

Lol says who? I want to win a cup, we need defens

 

[Hellcat]

Well that's a reliable source........................

You laugh at the "I over heard at a bar" but I heard Montreal's Draft plans for the 2020 draft on a train from Toronto to Montreal.... One of Montreal's head dudes and a scout were talking shop less than 6 feet way from me... best train trip ever. So while it sounds like the bar story is a tall tale.. it's happened to me... info is currency in the NHL, insiders love to talk about stuff they are not supposed to talk about.

 

[Fogelhund]

Exactly why I try with peeke

I think Peeke costs you a 3rd, and maybe another small asset.... Funny enough, trading them a 3rd, small plus and Klingberg actually reduces what they are paying in real terms, due to Klingbergs bonus. I doubt they have any real interest or use for Klingberg, but... that's not really any of our concern.

Peeke is also signed for this year plus 2. If Zadorov really wants a raise to $5 mil... he'd have to substantially up his game somehow.... that would be one heck of an overpay for a 3rd pairing LD.... Yikes.

Peeke has actually played more minutes the last two years, similar number of hits... Not a small guy either.. not Zadorov big, but man... $5 mil plus... no Big Z, no...

 

[therealkoho]

If Zadorov win 5-5,5M. He will become the highest 3rd pair dman of NHL.

Hanifin around 6,5- 7M would be a good range, similar to hampus Lindholm deal

He's at almost 4 now 3.75AAV to be exact

Add to that signing with a team that traded for him, add to that the team being Toronto

= 5 - 5.5

He likely won't be a 3rd pairing guy Gio will still have that job.

As for Zadorov he has decent wheels, he has good puck skills and a big shot. A shot that not many people want to get in front of. At least Brodie didnt anyway. TJ gave it a "try to block it fake-aroo at least twice." Did I mention that he's 6'6" 245lbs and friends with his goalie! He's one of those types who believes the blue paint belongs to the netminder, and he's real serious about it

 

[Hellcat]

I hope, hope that if we do make moves, it is for a defender who has controllable years, is young-ish and is not a guy you need to play sheltered minutes, we dont need to pick up a 1st pairing stud but there has to be value out there that we can get with out trading more of our future.

 

[arso40]

I think Peeke costs you a 3rd, and maybe another small asset.... Funny enough, trading them a 3rd, small plus and Klingberg actually reduces what they are paying in real terms, due to Klingbergs bonus. I doubt they have any real interest or use for Klingberg, but... that's not really any of our concern.

Peeke is also signed for this year plus 2. If Zadorov really wants a raise to $5 mil... he'd have to substantially up his game somehow.... that would be one heck of an overpay for a 3rd pairing LD.... Yikes.

Peeke has actually played more minutes the last two years, similar number of hits... Not a small guy either.. not Zadorov big, but man... $5 mil plus... no Big Z, no...

Exactly that’s an expensive unknown Atleast peeke gives you a couple years to assess him before he enters his prime and he balances the defence

 

[francis246]

Zadorov ain't worth a first. Dream on.He would already be gone.

Minten is a 2nd round pick and like I said I’d move him if we are getting two dmen back

 

[Apotheosis]

Would absolutely LOVE this move. Put him with Rielly and have a legit top pairing. When Liljegren is back you can run him and Brodie as a second pairing.

 

[francis246]

I hope, hope that if we do make moves, it is for a defender who has controllable years, is young-ish and is not a guy you need to play sheltered minutes, we dont need to pick up a 1st pairing stud but there has to be value out there that we can get with out trading more of our future.

The problem is teams are not moving RFA dmen with first pairing potential, you need to draft and develop those.

 

[thusk]

If we’re trading for hanifan i still want peeke Brodie and klingberg both go I want mccabe gone too but that could wait for off season

If leafs trading for hanifin, they will not have enough asset left for peekie except if they give up exemple knies

He's at almost 4 now 3.75AAV to be exact

Add to that signing with a team that traded for him, add to that the team being Toronto

= 5 - 5.5

He likely won't be a 3rd pairing guy Gio will still have that job.

As for Zadorov he has decent wheels, he has good puck skills and a big shot. A shot that not many people want to get in front of. At least Brodie didnt anyway. TJ gave it a "try to block it fake-aroo at least twice." Did I mention that he's 6'6" 245lbs and friends with his goalie! He's one of those types who believes the blue paint belongs to the netminder, and he's real serious about it

The fact hes at 3, 75 doesn't mean he will and should have a raise in his next contract...3,75M signed 2 year ago for a 4th/ 5th. Thats pretty close o fhis value on free agency... and he would probably played a similar role than Schenn last season or a similar role of McCabe... nothing more and thats nothing else than a 4th/5th role

 

[thusk]

If we’re trading for hanifan i still want peeke Brodie and klingberg both go I want mccabe gone too but that could wait for off season

If leafs trading for hanifin, they will not have enough asset left for peekie except if they give up exemple knies, cowan.... kind of thing who should be pretty bad

He's at almost 4 now 3.75AAV to be exact

Add to that signing with a team that traded for him, add to that the team being Toronto

= 5 - 5.5

He likely won't be a 3rd pairing guy Gio will still have that job.

As for Zadorov he has decent wheels, he has good puck skills and a big shot. A shot that not many people want to get in front of. At least Brodie didnt anyway. TJ gave it a "try to block it fake-aroo at least twice." Did I mention that he's 6'6" 245lbs and friends with his goalie! He's one of those types who believes the blue paint belongs to the netminder, and he's real serious about it

The fact hes at 3, 75 doesn't mean he will and should have a raise in his next contract...3,75M signed 2 year ago for a 4th/ 5th. Thats pretty close o fhis value on free agency... and he would probably played a similar role than Schenn last season or a similar role of McCabe... nothing more and thats nothing else than a 4th/5th role

 

[Sypher04]

Not super interested in Tanev. I like the player, but injuries, pending UFA and his age are a bad mix

 

[leafan11]

Not super interested in Tanev. I like the player, but injuries, pending UFA and his age are a bad mix

He looks like Muzzin 2.0. His skating looked brutal during the Leafs game.

 

[cyris]

I think Peeke costs you a 3rd, and maybe another small asset.... Funny enough, trading them a 3rd, small plus and Klingberg actually reduces what they are paying in real terms, due to Klingbergs bonus. I doubt they have any real interest or use for Klingberg, but... that's not really any of our concern.

Peeke is also signed for this year plus 2. If Zadorov really wants a raise to $5 mil... he'd have to substantially up his game somehow.... that would be one heck of an overpay for a 3rd pairing LD.... Yikes.

Peeke has actually played more minutes the last two years, similar number of hits... Not a small guy either.. not Zadorov big, but man... $5 mil plus... no Big Z, no...

Peeke is also younger and a right shot.
I’d like to add Peeke and Zadorov while using the assets we could get trading out Brodie or McCabe to help pay for it. But I’m not interested in overpaying for Z.

 

[Legion34]

I think Peeke costs you a 3rd, and maybe another small asset.... Funny enough, trading them a 3rd, small plus and Klingberg actually reduces what they are paying in real terms, due to Klingbergs bonus. I doubt they have any real interest or use for Klingberg, but... that's not really any of our concern.

Peeke is also signed for this year plus 2. If Zadorov really wants a raise to $5 mil... he'd have to substantially up his game somehow.... that would be one heck of an overpay for a 3rd pairing LD.... Yikes.

Peeke has actually played more minutes the last two years, similar number of hits... Not a small guy either.. not Zadorov big, but man... $5 mil plus... no Big Z, no...

Hasn’t peeke been a healthy scratch for weeks?

I could be wrong but I think he is free.

 

[cyris]

Hasn’t peeke been a healthy scratch for weeks?

I could be wrong but I think he is free.

He has been for most of the season. He should be quite cheap to acquire, it’s part of what makes him an attractive pick up for me.

 

[Hellcat]

.. rumors are heating up that Toronto has an offer on the table and Calgary has till they get back to NA to make the deal ... smoke?

 

[Menzinger]

I've gotten the impression that Tre isn't particularly big on Brodie. I'd imagine he'll be out the door if it comes to any sort of trade to free up cash.

I also wouldn't be so quick to write off the value of mid-tier prospects - from the outside looking in we don't really know how other teams value them. The Flames scouts for example gave probably gotten to know Abbruzzse pretty well considering he was teammates with Coronato.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Zadorov for Kilnberg plus a 1st rounder .. but only if Zadorov signs here on reasonable long term deal and only if Flames take Klinberg

I want Zadorov here as much as anybody, I don't want to move a 1st round pick for Zadorov alone.

Now according to Friedman Treliving wants both Zadorov and Tanev.

If he can somehow pull that off that's different because then you have significantly changed the defense.

But for Zadorov alone? I think a 1st round pick is to high.

.. rumors are heating up that Toronto has an offer on the table and Calgary has till they get back to NA to make the deal ... smoke?

Source?

 

[Stephen]

I've gotten the impression that Tre isn't particularly big on Brodie. I'd imagine he'll be out the door if it comes to any sort of trade to free up cash.

I also wouldn't be so quick to write off the value of mid-tier prospects - from the outside looking in we don't really know how other teams value them. The Flames scouts for example gave probably gotten to know Abbruzzse pretty well considering he was teammates with Coronato.

Good point on both accounts.

I don't think Brodie is what Treliving likes, since Tre has let him walk to free agency in 2020. Say what you want but Brodie is a smart piece to upgrade on, since he carries a health cap hit but is a declining asset, plays his offhand and doesn't offer the size or cornerstone defenseman package. If you could manage a big long term upgrade and slot him in Brodie's spot, everything slots under better.

And also a good point about prospects. It's impossible to know if we have another Trevor Moore, or if we could fluff a guy up like he's the next Trevor Moore. That's the GM's job to increase asset value so we'll see.