Rumor: Nikita Zadorov Would Welcome Move To Toronto

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

A lot of rumours have Minten involved which makes sense, he plays in the WHL. Calgary probably scouts there heavily. I could see Minten involved if we are acquiring both Tanev and Zadorov

I could see it if Treliving somehow landed both but if It's just Zadorov or Tanev I don't see Minten involved

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Zadorov for Kilnberg plus a 1st rounder .. but only if Zadorov signs here on reasonable long term deal and only if Flames take Klinberg

 

[Shooter2x]

The way Dubas mangled the D, it needs multiple years to fix. It can't be fixed in 1 or 2 non-impact moves.

I would take advantage of Matthews and Marner being both selke caliber and just take over the league with your forwards and avoid adding top 4 D that aren't special top 4 D. You just end up with a McCabe.

In the playoffs you will favor possession, offense, strong back check and defer to a Rielly wheel when the forwards aren't carrying. Hope Klingberg does what he did for Dallas cup run in the getting puck on net department.

1 more top 6 addition to this team (and everyone healthy) would be enough to own the league through the forwards confidently. We will be the best in a category instead of make shifting another.

 

[darrylsittler27]

A lot of rumours have Minten involved which makes sense, he plays in the WHL. Calgary probably scouts there heavily. I could see Minten involved if we are acquiring both Tanev and Zadorov

Unfortunately because of Dumbad we can't trade prospects for ufas. We have no draft picks in 2025. You won't get much due to all those horrible trades we made in the past. Klingberg and a 3rd for Zadorov or take a hike.

Zadorov for Kilnberg plus a 1st rounder .. but only if Zadorov signs here on reasonable long term deal and only if Flames take Klinberg

 

[hotpaws]

Jesus, I hope that's not legit but my confidence in Treliving is very low so I could see him pulling the trigger on something like that.

Isn't Hanifin on his last year as well?

unless Calgary is super super super , did i mention super , high on Minten for some reason they laugh and hang up at that pkg

there's nothing there outside of Minten who unless he surprises projects to a 3rd or 4th line C , Brodie's regressed and might get you at best a 2nd at the t/d and Holmberg and Abbruzzse are basically just throw ins and Berg might get you a 4th or 5th at the t/d

so it really boils down to Minten , a 2nd and a 4th for Zad/Hanifin and if Calgary goes for that we should be praising Tre

 

[SprDaVE]

The way Dubas mangled the D, it needs multiple years to fix. It can't be fixed in 1 or 2 non-impact moves.

I would take advantage of Matthews and Marner being both selke caliber and just take over the league with your forwards and avoid adding top 4 D that aren't special top 4 D. You just end up with a McCabe.

In the playoffs you will favor possession, offense, strong back check and defer to a Rielly wheel when the forwards aren't carrying. Hope Klingberg does what he did for Dallas cup run in the getting puck on net department.

1 more top 6 addition to this team (and everyone healthy) would be enough to own the league through the forwards confidently. We will be the best in a category instead of make shifting another.

He didn't mangle anything to be honest. He gave Treliving Rielly, McCabe (at 2M for another 2 seasons), Brodie, Liljegren and Giordano with more than enough money to sign a good to great defenseman to compliment everyone else. Next year he has even more money with Rielly, McCabe and a RFA Liljegren to sign. This is a good position to be in.

Treliving chose his poison for this season. It's on him. He needs to spend his money a lot better. The good news is that most of the mistakes can be fixed or were short-term.

 

[Funk21]

If the ask is Minten I hang up the phone. Zardov while a decent defender is nothing more than a second pairing guy and likely a number 4. We need young players, we need C and this kid had a great camp. Not worth trading futures for 6 months of a UFA looking for a big payday.

Equivalent of a second for him max.

 

[Fogelhund]

If the ask is Minten I hang up the phone. Zardov while a decent defender is nothing more than a second pairing guy and likely a number 4. We need young players, we need C and this kid had a great camp. Not worth trading futures for 6 months of a UFA looking for a big payday.

Equivalent of a second for him max.

Third pairing guy on a good team.

 

[hotpaws]

He didn't mangle anything to be honest. He gave Treliving Rielly, McCabe (at 2M for another 2 seasons), Brodie, Liljegren and Giordano with more than enough money to sign a good to great defenseman to compliment everyone else. Next year he has even more money with Rielly, McCabe and a RFA Liljegren to sign. This is a good position to be in.

Treliving chose his poison for this season. It's on him. He needs to spend his money a lot better. The good news is that most of the mistakes can be fixed or were short-term.

who was this good/great defenseman he passed on ?

 

[SprDaVE]

who was this good/great defenseman he passed on ?

Carson Soucy? Brian Dumoulin? Erik Gustafsson? Justin Holl? Matt Dumba? Radko Gudas? Luke Schenn? Shayne Gostisbehere? Just about anyone other than John Klingberg? All these players signed for less than Klinberg.

Dimitry Orlov was the only defenseman that signed for more. Also 1 year.

 

[Jojalu]

Zadorov would be frustrating for a lot of fans. While he does lay out a few monster hits, he does not clear the front of the net and is prone to horrible turnovers.

If I was choosing between him and Tanev, I am choosing Tanev.

Tanev could slot with Rielly 5v5 and still be a force

 

[ACC1224]

Carson Soucy? Brian Dumoulin? Erik Gustafsson? Justin Holl? Just about anyone other than John Klingberg?

Soucy would have been great. I wonder if they tried? He may have wanted to stay out west.

Agree with the bolded though.

 

[hotpaws]

Carson Soucy? Brian Dumoulin? Erik Gustafsson? Justin Holl? Just about anyone other than John Klingberg?

so it went from a good/great D to someone who just has to outplay Berg so far , lol

unfortunately there were no great options and he took over a D core that is Rielly and a bunch of 3rd pairing guys regardless how people try to spin it

he also was left with only a 1st and a couple of late picks in last years draft and without a first in 2025 and without a 2nd for four years in a row

but we are tits deep in small somewhat skilled puck moving D , yeeaa

 

[SprDaVE]

so it went from a good/great D to someone who just has to outplay Berg so far , lol

unfortunately there were no great options and he took over a D core that is Rielly and a bunch of 3rd pairing guys regardless how people try to spin it

he also was left with only a 1st and a couple of late picks in last years draft and without a first in 2025 and without a 2nd for four years in a row

I mean they are not all 3rd pairing guys lol but ok we're spinning it

The point was that Treliving gave 4M to one of the worst defenseman in the league. He had options and plenty of cap space. When a lot of other options are just clearly better, it's not hard to find better options and it took me 2 minutes to find them.

Poor Treliving. Boo hoo.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Zadorov would be frustrating for a lot of fans. While he does lay out a few monster hits, he does not clear the front of the net and is prone to horrible turnovers.

If I was choosing between him and Tanev, I am choosing Tanev.

Tanev could slot with Rielly 5v5 and still be a force

I would too but Tanev is getting for a 2024 1st rounder at TDL and there will be multiple bidders .. and Flames will not be required to eat CAP space .. so they are not taking either Klinberg/Brodie to match CAP .. Hanifin is completely off table as Flames want a 1st, a player and a great prospect (Leafs just can't play in that sand box with their CAP) .. even Zadorov has issues because apparently he is looking for 5.5-6M AAV 1-3 years which is why this player has come up to begin with .. going long term on him at lower CAP but a 7-year contract is da only chance

 

[hotpaws]

I mean they are not all 3rd pairing guys lol but ok we're spinning it

The point was that Treliving gave 4M to one of the worst defenseman in the league. He had options and plenty of cap space. When a lot of other options are just clearly better, it's not hard to find better options and it took me 2 minutes to find them.

Poor Treliving. Boo hoo.

no one's praising Tre for signing Berg but you were right the 1st time , we do need a good/great D , we have plenty of guys that can fill in the 3rd pairing and adding another meh D even if they're better than Berg (which isn't hard to be) wouldn't help us

 

[thusk]

Some of us really want to sent a boat load of future assets, for a pair of UFA defenders? Later, we'll probably complain that the prospect pool has been all traded away...

We shouldn't be trading for two LD, that much is for sure.... and if you are going for two guys, it's probably Weegar and Zadorov. At least with Weegar, you've got control, even though it's a contract that is too high for the player.

Trading for ufa d doesn't mean you cant resign them especially when its 2 player your gm know really well.

+ with all hanifin, zadorov and tanev set to leave the team... i dont think calgary will have any kind of interest to trade Weagar. The fact youe want a player doesnn't mean hes available.

Pretty good #2 D available with good attittude and no issue with available, i can tell you the list will be pretty thin, thats why most of the time traded for a player in his last season is most of the time, your best option

 

[francis246]

Unfortunately because of Dumbad we can't trade prospects for ufas. We have no draft picks in 2025. You won't get much due to all those horrible trades we made in the past. Klingberg and a 3rd for Zadorov or take a hike.

Lol says who? I want to win a cup, we need defense

 

[Malachi Crunch]

unless Calgary is super super super , did i mention super , high on Minten for some reason they laugh and hang up at that pkg

there's nothing there outside of Minten who unless he surprises projects to a 3rd or 4th line C , Brodie's regressed and might get you at best a 2nd at the t/d and Holmberg and Abbruzzse are basically just throw ins and Berg might get you a 4th or 5th at the t/d

so it really boils down to Minten , a 2nd and a 4th for Zad/Hanifin and if Calgary goes for that we should be praising Tre

I have to agree with your assessment. We are waaaaaaay overvaluing our prospects. Even Minten......it's not that difficult finding a Minten in free agency. (though I'd love to keep him as a cost-controlled player)

 

[colchar]

Heard at the bar last night

Well that's a reliable source........................

 

[colchar]

So our RHD is Timmins and Liljegren?

Our LHD is:
Rielly
Gio
Hanifin
Zadorov
McCabe

That’s just swell.

Our RHD gets improved before anything happens to the LHD.

Not sure why this concept is hard to absorb and even harder to execute on but our RHD is already piss poor and this looks to take away 50% of our already weak RHD to bring in 2 more LHD.

Round and round we goooooooo

He heard the rumour at a bar and you're getting worked up over it?

 

[LeafSteel]

He heard the rumour at a bar and you're getting worked up over it?

Lol.

Are you getting worked up thinking I’m worked up that he heard some rumour at some bar?

Weak troll job.

Try harder.

 

[therealkoho]

I would too but Tanev is getting for a 2024 1st rounder at TDL and there will be multiple bidders .. and Flames will not be required to eat CAP space .. so they are not taking either Klinberg/Brodie to match CAP .. Hanifin is completely off table as Flames want a 1st, a player and a great prospect (Leafs just can't play in that sand box with their CAP) .. even Zadorov has issues because apparently he is looking for 5.5-6M AAV 1-3 years which is why this player has come up to begin with .. going long term on him at lower CAP but a 7-year contract is da only chance

Not so sure Tanev is worth that, his contract is expiring, he has apparently been playing hurt(mentioned on the broadcast briefly) and also has a bit of a history with missing time.

I know you can't let history of injury hold you back, but Nolan, Foligno and a few other head shaking trades should be enough to give you pause. Including solid young talent in trades, players that will be on affordable contracts going forward, is a game where the cost almost never covers the benefits.

Let's just say you overpay for a player like Tanev, he plays all the games and gives you good service, but not a cup. The question becomes can you afford to re-up an aging guy who's going to want more money than you can or should spend. In the end in that case what do you end up with?

You can't win'em all, but if you want to win it all, then you absolutely have to win the high cost trades by either bringing a cup home or by having a really solid leader in the dressing room for a few years.

 

[therealkoho]

Heard at the bar last night, don’t know if anyone else heard it
Flames get Klingberg, Brodie, Abruzzese, Holmberg and Minten, Leafs get Zadorov and Hanifin.

No nothing like that although it's been awhile since I was hanging around in that bar.

but anything is possible, I suppose!

The only way it works though is if at least one of those guys stay

Zadorov likely to want a 4-6 year deal somewhere in the neighborhood of 5-5.5m

Hanifin 5-7 years in the neighborhood of 7-8.5 m

But if they deal Mintz, then it is imperative that they hold on to both Knies and Robbie (and really hope Cowboy fulfills his promise) and to do that AND keep Filthy Billy then one of the other bloated contracts will have to go. There is no other way around it.

 

[Cor]

It’s very difficult to fit in both Tanev and Zadorov with just Klingberg going out. Even with 50% retention on one. Perhaps you get retention on both.

Would’ve quite the move. Definitely two perfect fits.

Rielly - Tanev
Zadorov - McCabe/Brodie
Brodie/McCabe - Liljegren
Giordano - Timmins

I wonder if Samsonov and Vlader could be involved