Post-Game Talk: NICKY BOBBY FOR THE WIN! | 3-2 Leafs in OT

[Dreakmur]

I missed the game, only saw the one replay above. What was the call on the ice?

Maybe unclear evidence to overturn?

Call on the ice was no goal. Video review overturned. Evidence was clear.

 

[cyris]

Just saw the replay in real time.. yikes that's really close.

What gets me is that Seguin clearly makes a push on Samsonov during that sequence. But what that did is throw Samsonov's balance off and in catching his balance, Samsonov gave the puck the extra kick that put the puck into the net.

The puck may not have gone in so quickly without that extra little tap.

Again, not seeing the clear evidence to overturn the call.

Yeah I don’t know how you can say there was enough there to overturn the call on the ice but I’m not an NHL ref

 

[Stephen]

Just saw the replay in real time.. yikes that's really close.

What gets me is that Seguin clearly makes a push on Samsonov during that sequence. But what that did is throw Samsonov's balance off and in catching his balance, Samsonov gave the puck the extra kick that put the puck into the net.

The puck may not have gone in so quickly without that extra little tap.

Again, not seeing the clear evidence to overturn the call.

Leafs goals have been called for even less physical contact:

 

[Menzinger]

0.927 SV% through the first three games ... would be awesome if he could stay steady and be a late bloomer.

I mean the guys 25, it's not even that late. Campbell broke out at 29 finally.

Finger crossed this could be the stable goalie talent the teams been looking for since the start of the cap era...

 

[cyris]

Leafs goals have been called for even less physical contact:

Like if they called it a goal on the ice I would understand not seeing enough to call it back. But to me you can’t say Seguin didn’t interfere with Samsonov even if Marner did too. And you also can’t say Seguin didn’t also somewhat help push Marner into him.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Anyone notice Samsonov get slew-footed right as Robertson got the takeaway?

I just rewatched it. I think it was accidental - looked like he was busy watching the puck.

 

[ER89]

a kerfoot nylander robertson line might be interesting... although maybe a bit too small

I'd like to see the big guns carry their own lines and spread this offense out.

Jarnkrok-matty-kerfoot
Bunting-nylander-robertson
Marner-taveras-engvall

I wouldn't be opposed to swapping marner with Robertson either.

 

[IPS]

Feels like theres room for Malgin while our bottom 3 wingers (even Kampf) can rotate in/out until they find some urgency in their games.

What's he gonna do there? He can't PK, he definitely ain't gonna score, and he doesn't do anything defensively.

It's the same guy now as it was a few years back, he just ain't cut out for the league.

 

[IPS]

I like you and all but seriously enough with this. This is getting annoying. Malgin deserved a chance and now Robertson is getting his chance. Thats all there is to it.
Also Malgin is still staying especially if bottom 6 won't provide much.

And in 15-20 games when Malgin is out of the league entirely yet again we can forget all about it.

 

[notDatsyuk]

You want the bigger boys in the line-up against a physical and dirty team like the Jets for sure

Stars are big, physical, and dirty too.

 

[Dreakmur]

Leafs goals have been called for even less physical contact:

You don't have to make contact with the goalie's body to prevent him from making a save.

You see the goalie's stick totally tied up with Matthews in that video, so while Matthews didn't make body to body contact, he did impact their ability to make the save

 

[leafan11]

And in 15-20 games when Malgin is out of the league entirely yet again we can forget all about it.

Agreed Malgin Is not an NHL player. If he was waived right now no team would pick him up. I believe on the leaf report podcast they even said as much.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

And in 15-20 games when Malgin is out of the league entirely yet again we can forget all about it.

Then give him 20 games and actually find out. At this point it is nearly impossible for him to do worse than NAK or ZAR, so it is not like we have anything to lose. That is 16 games where NAK and ZAR are fighting it out to be much better than they currently have been and take that job away from either each other, Malgin, or someone else.

Putting him on the 3rd line reunites him with Kerfoot, who was his center in preseason when Malgin was excellent, and gives him a chance to be more of an offensive focal point than on the 2nd line.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Leafs first goal was a perfect example of what I've been saying.

Tavares messes up the PP twice. As soon as he is off, Jarnkrok does what the center is supposed to do - screen the goalie. This allows a good shot from the defence, the goalie loses sight of the puck, and we score.

I think the comment I heard the most in the game was 'Tavares loses the puck'.

They really have to get JT away from Robertson and Nylander.

Robertson - Kerfoot - Nylander or
Robertson - Nylander - Jarnkrok

Tavares with Kerfoot/Jarnkrok/Engvall/Malgin would be a good third line.

I'd prefer to keep the Matthews line together, as we know they will be deadly once they find their groove.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Was at the game tonight, which always provides a different perspective. Some views from up top in the stands:

-- Robertson (the Leaf one) was easily the best player on the ice tonight from either side. His speed and tenacity were on display all game. Rewarded with those two goals, and should have a full-time spot moving forward.

-- Samsonov was fine. Barely tested, so could hardly judge. But steady enough to get the 2 points.

-- Rielly will always be my favourite Leaf while he's with the team. He's the cornerstone of the D by a country mile. He's all over the place. He needs to learn to trust his shot. A clear lane to the net, especially on the PP, and instead he looks for a pass to a guy on the boards. Such a waste. Even if he's not confident with his slap shot, he can Kaberle it by flicking a nice low wrister that creates chaos in front.

-- Bunting is a more offensive, albeit a much less aggressive Hyman. I can see why he's on the 1st line.

-- Matthews and Marner were hardly visible. Another subpar game.

-- One guy who surprisingly stood out was Mete. A good skater who made a few good rushes out of the zone as well as some passes. I'd keep him around in the bottom six.

As for Dallas:

-- Wedgewood stole that point for them. Leafs got lucky it wasn't Oettinger. But Wedgewood was solid.

-- Their big guys were all invisible. Barely noticed Robertson, Pavelski, Heiskanen and Seguin (even with his goal and assist). Wouldn't have known Hintz played if I was told.

-- Jamie Benn is done. Guy is 33 and all that wear and tear from his playing style makes him look like he is skating like a 43-year old out there who can't keep up.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Leafs first goal was a perfect example of what I've been saying.

Tavares messes up the PP twice. As soon as he is off, Jarnkrok does what the center is supposed to do - screen the goalie. This allows a good shot from the defence, the goalie loses sight of the puck, and we score.

I think the comment I heard the most in the game was 'Tavares loses the puck'.

They really have to get JT away from Robertson and Nylander.

Robertson - Kerfoot - Nylander or
Robertson - Nylander - Jarnkrok

Tavares with Kerfoot/Jarnkrok/Engvall/Malgin would be a good third line.

I'd prefer to keep the Matthews line together, as we know they will be deadly once they find their groove.

Lol why do you think it’s the centre’s job to screen? Centres can just as easily be the play driver or the sidewall setup guy - just depends on who’s on that line and what their skilllset(s) are.

I also thought the 2nd line was fine and thought MM was losing pucks a lot more than JT was.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Four players really stood out in the game: Robertson, Nylander, Sandin, and Samsonov.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Lol why do you think it’s the centre’s job to screen? Centres can just as easily be the play driver or the sidewall setup guy - just depends on who’s on that line and what their skilllset(s) are.

I also thought the 2nd line was fine and thought MM was losing pucks a lot more than JT was.

Ok, it doesn't have to be the center, but someone should be in the slot screening the goalie. The other four move the puck around, and JT stands at the side if the puck is back towards the points. The other guys are the drivers and sidewall guys.

A large part of why our PP is as ineffective as it is.

Robertson and Nylander looked pretty good with JT, but much better without him. Tavares hasn't fit with Nylander for years, and it's pretty obviously the same with Robertson.

 

[Puckstuff]

Leafs first goal was a perfect example of what I've been saying.

Tavares messes up the PP twice. As soon as he is off, Jarnkrok does what the center is supposed to do - screen the goalie. This allows a good shot from the defence, the goalie loses sight of the puck, and we score.

I think the comment I heard the most in the game was 'Tavares loses the puck'.

They really have to get JT away from Robertson and Nylander.

Robertson - Kerfoot - Nylander or
Robertson - Nylander - Jarnkrok

Tavares with Kerfoot/Jarnkrok/Engvall/Malgin would be a good third line.

I'd prefer to keep the Matthews line together, as we know they will be deadly once they find their groove.

The lines are untenable.

Kerfoot and Engvall have no chemistry on the 3rd line.

Both Robbie and Willy are brought down by Tavares on the 2nd line 5 on 5.

We were saved in this game by Robertson’s 2 goals on his shifts away from JT and Kerfoot on the P.P. Nothing else is working.

The only player Tavares has had chemistry with is Marner.

Because Matthews-Marner have struggled recently I would consider trying Tavares with Bunting and Marner. Nylander and Robertson would be much better with a different center either Matthews in a front loaded top 6 or Kerfoot if they want balance of 3 lines.


1. Top heavy

Robertson-Matthews-Nylander
—-Bunting-Tavares-Marner
—Engvall-Kerfoot-Jarnkrok


2. Balance

Bunting-Tavares-Marner
Robertson-Kerf-Nylander
Malign-Matthews-Jarnkrok
Engvall—Kampf-Aube-Kubel

I think this could work for the following reasons


1. Tavares had his best season with Marner and Bunting profiles as a winger that would work well with J.T. Matthews has struggled early and Tavares was good in the first 4 games before tonight so this could work.

2. Nylander, Kerfoot, Robertson are all fast, creative players that make things happen on the rush. Nylander and Robertson have both had their best games away from Tavares. Robertson also had 3 assists and had insane chemistry on this exact line in preseason. I think it could cary over.

3. Matthews and Tavares can rotate on this line but Matthews is a guy who should be able to produce alone. He’s off to a bit of a slow start. Since Malgin and Jarnkrok are both pass first guys, they can do all the dirty work and just focus on setting up Matthews. This isn’t ideal long term but it could work. Matthews and Tavares are both shoot first guys so they can interchange here. I’m just putting Matthews here to get Tavares a look with Marner and Bunting and Matthews is so elite he can score and run his own line if we elect for more balance. This is more to mix things up.

4. Re-unite Engvall and Kampf who have excellent chemistry and speed from there days on the very good Engvall-Kampf-Mikheyev line. Kubel becomes the Mikheyev filler here.

 

[ktownhockey]

Robertson now has more goals than Matthews in 5 less games.

Love Matthews and he will snap out but that is a funny stat. Such a game of short stints. Matthews only goal was the slight redirect. He seems to be trying to find open teammates more. I want to see him fire the biscuit. However for the teams sake, if Robertson pans out as a top 6 scorer, we're laughing.

 

[ZEBROA]

If Keefe had guts he would make that move.

"Gut" thats Keefes middle name. Unfortunately his surname is "Less" .

 

[ktownhockey]

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Still cannot stand that guy..... lol

 

[ktownhockey]

Is Robby Calder eligible?

100 P he would be.

I do agree. Everything Tavares does is slow, double-clutching, and just a split second behind where it should be. At this level I imagine it's very hard to play with. He's gotta clean it up. It looks hard for him.

JT had an horrible game,... he knew it! You could see it in his demeanor after fumbling of pucks early. He's been good so far this year, so I'm willing to forget about this one.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Horrific call. If this is not a push from Seguin there are no pushes in hockey

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[ZEBROA]

The lines are untenable.

Kerfoot and Engvall have no chemistry on the 3rd line.

Both Robbie and Willy are brought down by Tavares on the 2nd line 5 on 5.

We were saved in this game by Robertson’s 2 goals on his shifts away from JT and Kerfoot on the P.P. Nothing else is working.

The only player Tavares has had chemistry with is Marner.

Because Matthews-Marner have struggled recently I would consider trying Tavares with Bunting and Marner. Nylander and Robertson would be much better with a different center either Matthews in a front loaded top 6 or Kerfoot if they want balance of 3 lines.


1. Top heavy

Robertson-Matthews-Nylander
—-Bunting-Tavares-Marner
—Engvall-Kerfoot-Jarnkrok


2. Balance

Bunting-Tavares-Marner
Robertson-Kerf-Nylander
Malign-Matthews-Jarnkrok
Engvall—Kampf-Aube-Kubel

I think this could work for the following reasons


1. Tavares had his best season with Marner and Bunting profiles as a winger that would work well with J.T. Matthews has struggled early and Tavares was good in the first 4 games before tonight so this could work.

2. Nylander, Kerfoot, Robertson are all fast, creative players that make things happen on the rush. Nylander and Robertson have both had their best games away from Tavares. Robertson also had 3 assists and had insane chemistry on this exact line in preseason. I think it could cary over.

3. Matthews and Tavares can rotate on this line but Matthews is a guy who should be able to produce alone. He’s off to a bit of a slow start. Since Malgin and Jarnkrok are both pass first guys, they can do all the dirty work and just focus on setting up Matthews. This isn’t ideal long term but it could work. Matthews and Tavares are both shoot first guys so they can interchange here. I’m just putting Matthews here to get Tavares a look with Marner and Bunting and Matthews is so elite he can score and run his own line if we elect for more balance. This is more to mix things up.

4. Re-unite Engvall and Kampf who have excellent chemistry and speed from there days on the very good Engvall-Kampf-Mikheyev line. Kubel becomes the Mikheyev filler here.

I would try your topheavy lines next game. They should not be afraid to shuffle a little.