NHL Mega-Mock Draft Reboot - Discussion / Draft Thread - PHASE SEVEN! Part One!

[BiggE]

Anyone who watched Mario's career should know that talent is just talent, no matter the era. He was a freaking shell of himself and yet outpaced peak Jagr in the middle of the DPE.

Mario was still in his era. Here’s an example for you:

REDACTED was a Hall of Famer from the 1920s and 30s. He was 5’7 and weighed around 135. You really think he’d be an NHL all star today if a time machine could bring him to our era?

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Mario was still in his era. Here’s an example for you:

[REDACTED] was a Hall of Famer from the 1920s and 30s. He was 5’7 and weighed around 135. You really think he’d be an NHL all star today if a time machine could bring him to our era?

Umm ... redacted?

 

[mja]

Umm ... redacted?

RANCH

 

[BiggE]

Umm ... redacted?

Oops, thought he had been snapped up already. I mean for f***s sake, he’s REDACTED!

 

[mja]

Mario was still in his era. Here’s an example for you:

RANCH was a Hall of Famer from the 1920s and 30s. He was 5’7 and weighed around 135. You really think he’d be an NHL all star today if a time machine could bring him to our era?

No, but I bet RANCH could do things with a puck with whatever equipment he used that Robert Hagg wouldn't be able to. Also, yes, humans have gotten bigger on average, better nutrition, yada yada, yada.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Oops, thought he had been snapped up already. I mean for f***s sake, he’s [REDACTED]!

Umm ... redacted twice please? lol

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

No, but I bet [REDACTED] could do things with a puck with whatever equipment he used that Robert Hagg wouldn't be able to. Also, yes, humans have gotten bigger on average, better nutrition, yada yada, yada.

f*** my life

 

[mja]

f*** my life

I think there's a problem with your RANCH filter. It looks good on my end.

 

[BiggE]

f*** my life

Saying someone is more skilled than Hagg is like claiming someone is smarter than AV.

It’s the lowest of low bars.

 

[mja]

Saying someone is more skilled than Hagg is like claiming someone is smarter than AV.

It’s the lowest of low bars.

Also, more on this, Gordie Howe's last PPG+ season literally came exactly the season before Wayne Gretzky's 1st PPG+ season in the same league. Howe turned 50 that season. I'd be willing to bet that you could magically transport 25 year old Gordie Howe to today and he'd be one hell of a player.

 

[Magua]

The Honolulu Ghibli select as their legend defenseman: Alexei Kasatonov.

Kasatonov is the final member of the famed and dominant Soviet "Green Unit" of the 1980s (Fetisov, Makarov, Kasatonov, Krutov, Larionov). He played in the shadow of Fetisov -- as nearly all defensemen in hockey history would -- but Kasatonov is arguably the 3rd best defenseman to wear the CCCP jersey. Kasatonov didn't have Fetisov's natural ability, but he was an incredibly well-rounded player, who much like Larionov, filled his role and allowed that Green Unit to do its thang. Kasatonov's game adapted very quickly to the small ice and North American game (perhaps even more successfully than Fetisov in their Devil years) when he defected and went to the Devils in 1989-1990, where he had 3 very successful years before starting to decline in his mid-30s. But at his Soviet peak? Kasatonov was in all likelihood an NHL All-Star caliber player.





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@Lord Defect

 

[BiggE]

Also, more on this, Gordie Howe's last PPG+ season literally came exactly the season before Wayne Gretzky's 1st PPG+ season in the same league. Howe turned 50 that season. I'd be willing to bet that you could magically transport 25 year old Gordie Howe to today and he'd be one hell of a player.

The rule changes wouldn’t do him any favors as his signature elbows to the head would quickly get him suspended, but give a 25 year old Howe today’s equipment and he’d still be a top 6 forward today. He wouldn’t be a superstar though and at 6’1 205 he’s really the exception to the rule. Most stars in his era were under 6 feet and weighed in the 165-180 range.

 

[BiggE]

Modern nutrition, training and equipment give today’s players a huge advantage over those from earlier eras. Back then, training camp was for getting in shape and most players thought a steak and potato with a glass of bourbon was a healthy meal. Plus, a good many of them were heavy smokers too.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

The Honolulu Ghibli select as their legend defenseman: Alexei Kasatonov.

Kasatonov is the final member of the famed and dominant Soviet "Green Unit" of the 1980s (Fetisov, Makarov, Kasatonov, Krutov, Larionov). He played in the shadow of Fetisov -- as nearly all defensemen in hockey history would -- but Kasatonov is arguably the 3rd best defenseman to wear the CCCP jersey. Kasatonov didn't have Fetisov's natural ability, but he was an incredibly well-rounded player, who much like Larionov, filled his role and allowed that Green Unit to do its thang. Kasatonov's game adapted very quickly to the small ice and North American game (perhaps even more successfully than Fetisov in their Devil years) when he defected and went to the Devils in 1989-1990, where he had 3 very successful years before starting to decline in his mid-30s. But at his Soviet peak? Kasatonov was in all likelihood an NHL All-Star caliber player.





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@Lord Defect

Like Larionov, it was a shame not to be able to watch him in his prime. Both Makarov and Fetisov were able to dominate the NHL in ways that showcased how good they were before coming to North America. Kasatonov and Larionov weren't as dominant, even though Larionov was good for many years.

Krutov is on his own tier because he was so unmotivated and out of shape when he came over that North Americans could hardly believe that he was considered one of the best Russians ever.

 

[Magua]

The rule changes wouldn’t do him any favors as his signature elbows to the head would quickly get him suspended, but give a 25 year old Howe today’s equipment and he’d still be a top 6 forward today. He wouldn’t be a superstar though and at 6’1 205 he’s really the exception to the rule. Most stars in his era were under 6 feet and weighed in the 165-180 range.

Charlie Conacher, a former round 1 legend pick of mine and all-time great, was 6'1 195lbs in the 1930s. It's no wonder he was called the "Big Bomber." Over his 7 year prime, before chronic injuries, he led the NHL in points and goals (29 goals clear of 2nd place -- in 30 less games; 1.02 points/60 with 2nd place at 0.90). Conacher would be a solid sized NHL player now. Bill Cook, arguably the 2nd best sniper of the era and also a Ghibli player, was 5'10 170lbs. Howie Morenz? 5'9 165lbs. Conacher must've seemed like 1930s Ovechkin or Lindros.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Saying someone is more skilled than Hagg is like claiming someone is smarter than AV.

It’s the lowest of low bars.

I'm talking about naming names. Can you edit it so the name isn't in the posts? He's still available.

 

[BiggE]

Charlie Conacher, a former round 1 legend pick of mine and all-time great, was 6'1 195lbs in the 1930s. It's no wonder he was called the "Big Bomber." Over his 7 year prime, before chronic injuries, he led the NHL in points and goals (29 goals clear of 2nd place -- in 30 less games; 1.02 points/60 with 2nd place at 0.90). Conacher would be a pretty normal sized NHL player now. Bill Cook, arguably the 2nd best sniper of the era and also a Ghibli player, was 5'10 170lbs. Howie Morenz? 5'9 165lbs. Conacher must've seemed like 1930s Ovechkin or Lindros.

Without a doubt. Howe was basically the Lindros of his era minus the head down skating and meddling parents

 

[BiggE]

I'm talking about naming names. Can you edit it so the name isn't in the posts? He's still available.

Done

 

[BernieParent]

Saying someone is more skilled than Hagg is like claiming someone is smarter than AV.

It’s the lowest of low bars.

Come on, BiggE, play by Cap'n's rules.

"Saying someone is more skilled than [AUREL JOLIAT] is like claiming someone is smarter than [RANCH]."

 

[ajgoal]

Fine. @Magua is a punk but it's ok. I searched the spreadsheet and the thread. If someone picked him I blame @Lord Defect.

Rolling back to our selection which was unceremoniously ruined by the aforementioned hatchetman, Los Angeles is proud to name a legend from the 20's. One of the most accurate and powerful shooters of the time, he would lead the league in total goals for the decade, with 190. In all, he potted 201 goals, with only 47 helpers in his career. He played the majority of his career for the Toronto St. Patricks, with short stints with the Black Hawks and Americans at the end of his career.

His shot was known to break things, including the protective mesh behind the net and the backs of arena seats. All this despite being a smol boi at 5'8" tall and 150 pounds. He also played baseball in the International League, football for the Argonauts, and was inducted into the HHOF in 1970.

Legends Right Wing: Cecil Dye



Nobody new is up. It's still @Lord Defect. I'm just sneaking in to get this pick before @JojoTheWhale can snipe me.

 

[DancingPanther]

I fear my Yen write up will cause me to watch season 1 of The Witcher for the 4th time.

Just watched the Battle of Sodden Hill scene again. Just the f***ing best

 

[JojoTheWhale]

The Honolulu Ghibli select as their legend defenseman: Alexei Kasatonov.

Kasatonov is the final member of the famed and dominant Soviet "Green Unit" of the 1980s (Fetisov, Makarov, Kasatonov, Krutov, Larionov). He played in the shadow of Fetisov -- as nearly all defensemen in hockey history would -- but Kasatonov is arguably the 3rd best defenseman to wear the CCCP jersey. Kasatonov didn't have Fetisov's natural ability, but he was an incredibly well-rounded player, who much like Larionov, filled his role and allowed that Green Unit to do its thang. Kasatonov's game adapted very quickly to the small ice and North American game (perhaps even more successfully than Fetisov in their Devil years) when he defected and went to the Devils in 1989-1990, where he had 3 very successful years before starting to decline in his mid-30s. But at his Soviet peak? Kasatonov was in all likelihood an NHL All-Star caliber player.





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@Lord Defect

This was one of the three I was considering with my last pick. He even outscored Fetisov when both were Devils.

It's weird how little name recognition he has. Nice one.

 

[Lord Defect]

The Pufts , if we were on death row, and had to choose a last meal, are selecting the meal from the wafer thin mint scene from Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life, minus it all being mixed together.
We’re going out on our own terms



He is served moules marinières, pâté de foie gras, beluga caviar, Eggs Benedict, a leek tart, frogs' legs amandine and quail's eggs with puréed mushrooms all mixed in a bucket with the quail eggs on top and a double helping of pâté. The appetizers are followed by the main course of jugged hare, with a sauce of truffles, bacon, Grand Marnier, anchovies and cream. For drinks, Mr. Creosote has six bottles of Château Latour 1945, a Methuselah (Double Jeroboam/6 litres) of champagne, and half a dozen crates of brown ale (144 bottles)—considerably less than his usual fare

 

[Rebels57]

I fear my Yen write up will cause me to watch season 1 of The Witcher for the 4th time.

Just watched the Battle of Sodden Hill scene again. Just the f***ing best

Your obsession with that show is unhealthy lol

 

[Lord Defect]

@Magua what will you be eating sir.