GDT: NHL 24 Draft Combine June 3-8 NOT the trade, roster or KK thread

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As a sophomore playing with subpar D and fwd Corps while having to hold up the whole corps defensively.

Having a better/more experienced D corps will boost his numbers.
Without any PP time and with a dZS% of 65.

He's got some offensive flair but can't ever exploit it because he's constantly put under heavy defensive duties since he's pretty much their most reliable option there.
 

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If we end up taking a D at 5, it's almost certain to me that we'll see a trade this summer for a young top 6er that can make an impact in our lineup fairly soon (like the Dach and Newhook trades, but perhaps even more high profile).

I'd argue we don't have a proper competitive 2nd line, even with a healthy Dach, and I'm not sure we have the pieces in our organization right now to build one down the line. We need to be bringing in skill up front pretty soon to grow with and complement the rest of our core.

I don't think we can walk into another season with only one forward line that is capable of making a play.
 
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If we end up taking a D at 5, it's almost certain to me that we'll see a trade this summer for a young top 6er that can make an impact in our lineup fairly soon (like the Dach and Newhook trades, but perhaps even more high profile).

I'd argue we don't have a proper competitive 2nd line, even with a healthy Dach, and I'm not sure we have the pieces in our organization right now to build one down the line. We need to be bringing in skill up front pretty soon to grow with and complement the rest of our core.

I don't think we can walk into another season with only one forward line that is capable of making a play.
I think it depends on how Hughes evaluates the progress of the rebuild. Adding some middle six forwards would win more games short term. Are the habs at a point where they should be worrying about that is the main question.

Take elite talent if it is there. Fill middle six through free agency if necessary.
 
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The part on Demidov isn't an insider view of what Hughes is suggesting. It's what's happening in Russia, and the possibility of Demidov getting entangled in KHL affairs that would either extend his time there or hinder his development (another year in the MHL). Given that teams want certainty when they pick high, this points to Demidov dropping, perhaps substantially, in the draft order.

Turns out all of this "new" stuff on Demidov was already mentioned by Pronman and Wheeler on their most recent Friday Athletic podcast; Basu had nothing new to offer this whole time.
 

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Turns out all of this "new" stuff on Demidov was already mentioned by Pronman and Wheeler on their most recent Friday Athletic podcast; Basu had nothing new to offer this whole time.
Do you think any of this Demidov stuff, new or not, will have any impact on the Habs’ decision should he be available at the 5th drafting slot?
 

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Do you think any of this Demidov stuff, new or not, will have any impact on the Habs’ decision should he be available at the 5th drafting slot?
As a non-insider, your guess is as good as mine. Were I to guess, the only real factor with Demidov is whether the staff thinks he can adapt to pro hockey. The rest of the stuff is probably noise.
 

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Ahhhh...I knew it was only a matter of time before your bad manners would come out.

By the way...3 of the 4 have played in the NHL (Guhle, Hutson, Mailloux) so maybe get your facts straight if you're going to take a swing. :laugh:
Reinbacher, Hutson, and Mailloux have played a combined 3 gp in the NHL. Talk about premature.

The concept was terribly simple before you confused yourself: Conditional on a LHD (Dickinson) taken at 5OA, what is the trade value of Guhle? There is absolutely no need to compare Guhle to Roman Josi and then follow that to say actually no matter what happens to Guhle's trajectory, he is a 1D anyway and thus untradeable. He's not a winning team's 1D today and no-one can predict when or if he will be a 1D. He is therefore not an untradeable asset for a rebuilding team with an abundance of LHD prospects.
 
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Habs really need to get their hands on another 2nd rounder. There will be a lot of good players falling into day 2 and we're only picking 57th....

Make it happen Hughes.

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Two of those four haven’t played a game in the NHL so this is all premature… but par for the course in this discussion with you
You may have forgotten since the last couple of games of the season were years ago but three of those four did play a game in the NHL.
 

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Habs really need to get their hands on another 2nd rounder. There will be a lot of good players falling into day 2 and we're only picking 57th....

Make it happen Hughes.

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Good enough players with top 4D and top 6F potential? It's always good to add picks in that early 2nd round because there are some hits there. Just not sure of the probability of hitting.

We should be still drafting with high draft power but our prime targets is grade A prospects. You don't usually get grade A from 2nd round +
 

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My feelings is that both Demidov & Lindstrom + a d-man (Levshunov) will be picked before pick #5. Habs will have to pick the best D available (Dickenson ???) or go with Iginla or Catton or trade that pick to go down between pick 9 and 14 + a young talent.
As much as it'd be nice for the Sharks to move #14+ for #5, there simply isn't the right pieces available that could entice Montreal. Funny enough, I think the #7-10 range is the ideal trade up/down range for both my Sharks and my Habs, respectively.
 

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You may have forgotten since the last couple of games of the season were years ago but three of those four did play a game in the NHL.
I did forget the last couple of games of the season and my point remains completely unchanged. Counting chickens before they're hatched is bad enough, to do so and then also demand nobody else even entertain a discussion about trading a certain piece for another piece is just plain senseless.
 

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As a sophomore playing with subpar D and fwd Corps while having to hold up the whole corps defensively.

Having a better/more experienced D corps will boost his numbers.

And Hutson will redefine the deployment of the other teams vs. us and that will help guys like Guhle.

Ultimately I think it will be by committee and we hope Reinbacher becomes our #1D rapidly.

Balanced lineup (half the game / when we trail from behind)
Hutson (3D)- Reinbacher (1D)
Guhle (2D) - Mailloux (4D)
Engstrom (5D) - Struble (6D)
Xhekaj

End of game defending a lead / when we need the D to stop scoring.
Guhle - Reinbacher
Engstrom - Mailloux
Hutson - Struble
Xhekaj

(Matheson - Savard) to be there as father-figures until the kids are ready. I'm kinda sensing we should risk trading Matheson this year and get a LD 4D veteran to create some space for Hutson/Engstrom early.

This season
Guhle - Savard
4D Free Agent/Trade - Reinbacher/Mailloux
Hutson (PP 1D) - Struble
Xhekaj

AHL
Engstrom - Mailloux/Reinbacher

It's very crucial that both Reinbacher and Hutson make significant NHL strides this year.
Mailloux is also important, but we should prioritize Hutson and Reinbacher for obvious reasons.
 

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It could be worse because in the end we have the opportunity to choose. But it really might well be that two consecutive years, we get to decide whether the highly touted russian prospect falls or gets picked top-5.

I IMAGINE we would pick Demidov if the top-4 goes Celebrini - Levshunov - Silayev/Dickinson - Lindstrom. But for some reason I don't think it's a slam dunk.
 

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I know Sennecke didn't participate in the testing due to him recovering from an injury. My question is did he at least get measured? Or are those measured only those who take part in the testing? I didn't find him on the list of those who were.
 

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I know Sennecke didn't participate in the testing due to him recovering from an injury. My question is did he at least get measured? Or are those measured only those who take part in the testing? I didn't find him on the list of those who were.

He did not get measured so there's no updated height and weight values for him.
 

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That sucks. It would have been real interesting to know, mainly out of curiosity. I know he's a small player skill set in a big body, which is a very intriguing package.

Yeah I was hoping for the measurement and some physical testing.

I was also hoping we showed him a lot of interest down the stretch as I prefer him to Iginla, but as much as I thought they'd be higher or similarly high on him to Iginla, it seemed they touched base with him less than others.
 
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Hearing? Bruh that's been known for months.

I remember in the last mock draft they did, he questioned why Demidov couldn't make the effort to go to the combine if he was already states side. They didn't even realize he probably wasn't invited as per the recent trends of NHL not sending invites to Russian KHL contracted players, and didn't realize about this mini-camp to boot.

I was thinking of writing something in the comments, but I was too lazy at the time.
 
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