GDT: NHL 24 Draft Combine June 3-8 NOT the trade, roster or KK thread

[le_sean]

Buium imo is a year away, and blueline is already crowded on LD. Ditto Dickinson.

Parekh needs 2 years to upgrade his strength and skating. Savard & Kovacevic will be gone by then and probably Barron, too. We'll have Reinbacher, Mailloux & Parekh as our only true RD which is a little more palpable.

I find Reinbacher and Parekh are types you want to give 22-24 mins to. One in all the defensive opportunities, the other in all offensive. Leaves Mailloux in no man’s land.

 

[atrud66]

Here's the biggest takeaways from the draft article.. it's gonna make some people happy and other people not so happy.

• Deems it UNLIKELY both Lindstrom and Demidov are there.
• Deems it JUST AS UNLIKELY that NEITHER of them are there.
• In the event BOTH are there - they would lean LINDSTROM.
• In the event neither are there they'd look at Buium and Parekh.

Can the Iginla hysteria die down now? Crazy how many people were drinking the koolaid without knowing much about the other options. Selecting a mediocre forward for the sake of selecting a forward is brain dead

 

[Ozmodiar]

The thing is if neither Lindstrom or Demidov are there that means one of Dickinson or Levshunov is. It would mean 3F & 1D in first 4 picks.

He's saying Montreal would take Buium or Parekh before either Dickinson or Levshunov?

I assume Levshunov goes 1st D, so our choices would then be Dickinson, Buium or Parekh.

That’s the same question I have.

Going for offense instead?

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

I find Reinbacher and Parekh are types you want to give 22-24 mins to. One in all the defensive opportunities, the other in all offensive. Leaves Mailloux in no man’s land.

Feel like so many future projections are not based on who are likeliest to be on the team + role, but always about how every prospect is a hit who will dominate the minutes given to them.

The idea that all six regular defenders bolstering the blueline are Habs prospects, without exception, sounds farfetched to me. Your point about Mailloux is a good one, he'd be redundant on that kind of lineup should others work out; we'd be better off with a veteran from elsewhere that can help lock things down at that point.

 

[Leto]

What I’m hearing on the Canadiens after the combine and ahead of their No. 5 pick at the draft

A rundown of some of the draft information and speculation we were able to gather on the Canadiens at the NHL scouting combine in Buffalo.

www.nytimes.com

I expect his radio show input will be sometime this week, possibly with Gonzo and Laraque.

I believe this past week was the last one of the season for most of the shows on BPM (including Laraque & Gonzalez). I guess we'll get a Basu & Godin episode?​

 

[SwiftyHab]

OK so where did Dickinson, Levushnov and the Big Russian D disappear to ? did they go 2-3-4? then if so Habs take Lindstrom or whoever they want.

He assumes Levushnov is off the board and is silent about Dickie.

He does say this about silayev

“Could 6-foot-7 Russian defenceman Anton Silayev also be a consideration under this scenario? Yes, possibly, but if I had to bet on it, the Canadiens would opt for the puck-mover over the giant who can skate and punish opponents but has a limited offensive ceiling.”

 

[WeThreeKings]

I don't think this is it - they are usually pretty straight shooting.

But - they could be laying the Buium and Parekh seeds, with the Dickinson dinner, to amplify trade down efforts if they scare teams enough into thinking they may just take a defenseman they covet.

 

[1909]

Can the Iginla hysteria die down now? Crazy how many people were drinking the koolaid without knowing much about the other options. Selecting a mediocre forward for the sake of selecting a forward is brain dead

????? Iginla is not a mediocre forward. Maybe not a 5th OA, but a top-10 for sure. Habs could still trade their #5 for a very good asset and a later pick in the 1st round.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Here's the biggest takeaways from the draft article.. it's gonna make some people happy and other people not so happy.

• Deems it UNLIKELY both Lindstrom and Demidov are there.
• Deems it JUST AS UNLIKELY that NEITHER of them are there.
• In the event BOTH are there - they would lean LINDSTROM.
• In the event neither are there they'd look at Buium and Parekh.

He also stated that it was his opinion on point number 3.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Can the Iginla hysteria die down now? Crazy how many people were drinking the koolaid without knowing much about the other options. Selecting a mediocre forward for the sake of selecting a forward is brain dead

No, I don't think I will let the Iginla hype die down.

Iginla will be so good that the standard Canadian pronunciation will become a lisp to match King Tij's.

 

[Kents polished head]

If we're going D I hope we go Dickinson.

It would open up a ton of possibilities trade wise. I don't trust Guhle's upside that much.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

That’s the same question I have.

Going for offense instead?

Yeah, having a mobile, puck moving D definitely seems to be the way we want to go, which isn't a bad thing. I absolutely love Buium, but we definitely have one more year to decide who to keep and who to move on LD because he's ready 2025-2026.

Interesting that they like Parekh that much. He's a far superior version of Brandt Clarke. Similar issues in draft year, but Parekh had a massively strong offensive year.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Basu just said the Habs would probably go Buium and Parekh over Iginla and Sennecke.

Basu knows absolutely nothing and I find it hard to believe that he even said this.......I suspect this is a paraphrase that missed the mark. That being said Basu does not understand the game or players/prospects at anything more than the level of a casual fan so his opinion on hockey players should mean very little to anybody. I think he does a good job with his articles for the most part....until he attempts to be an analyst, then it gets ugly.

 

[atrud66]

????? Iginla is not a mediocre forward. Maybe not a 5th OA, but a top-10 for sure. Habs could still trade their #5 for a very good asset and a later pick in the 1st round.

2nd line wingers shouldn't go 5oa

 

[FrankMTL]

How would you guys rank the following forwards:

Ryder Richie
Jett Luchanko
Maxime Masse

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

That’s the same question I have.

Going for offense instead?

Could be that; could also be reliability with the puck on their sticks, not just in terms of fancy dangling but general poise (more importantly). Watching the Rangers play, it appears having a defense lacking in those areas can turn a strength (big defenders) into a weakness (inability to consistently transition puck stops to offense).

This assume Basu's article is on the money. I doubt it.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Basu knows absolutely nothing and I find it hard to believe that he even said this.......I suspect this is a paraphrase that missed the mark. That being said Basu does not understand the game or players/prospects at anything more than the level of a casual fan so his opinion on hockey players should mean very little to anybody. I think he does a good job with his articles for the most part....until he attempts to be an analyst, then it gets ugly.

That’s a bit harsh

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

2nd line wingers shouldn't go 5oa

It depends on the draft. That may be the best you can do in a weak draft This deosn't appear to be a weak draft though.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

If we're going D I hope we go Dickinson.

It would open up a ton of possibilities trade wise. I don't trust Guhle's upside that much.

Guhle is a stud and we need to stop with the talk of trading him. The kid is only 22 with 114 games under his belt and is going up against the top players in the league night in and night out. He is better than Sergachev at the same age who would have been a disaster in Montreal with all of the terrible turnovers that he still struggles with but it was really ugly at times in his first few seasons.

Guhle looks very much like a future top pairing dman and trading him would be foolish. Thankfully Hughes won't entertain such an idea.

 

[sheed36]

If both Lindstom and Demidov do go top 4 and the Habs are indeed considering Buium (who I really like) how can they not be also considering Dickinson in that scenario?

Both LHD and if I really had to choose between the 2 I think I'd have to go with the 6'3" 200+ lbs Dickinson but it would be a difficult choice to make.

Maybe the Habs think Lev and Dickinson go in the top 4 and they have no interest in taking the big Russian dman @ 5 if still there.

I never did any research on Parekh since I didn't figure he'd be on the Habs radar so I don't know much about him at all other than he put up a pile of points in the OHL so I'll have to go watch some video and read a few scouting reports on him too now I guess.

 

[Kents polished head]

Guhle is a stud and we need to stop with the talk of trading him. The kid is only 22 with 114 games under his belt and is going up against the top players in the league night in and night out. He is better than Sergachev at the same age who would have been a disaster in Montreal with all of the terrible turnovers that he still struggles with but it was really ugly at times in his first few seasons.

Guhle looks very much like a future top pairing dman and trading him would be foolish. Thankfully Hughes won't entertain such an idea.

This is ridiculous.

There's no world in which Guhle is a first pairing D on a non-lottery team.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

That’s a bit harsh

It is the truth....if you consider that to be harsh I don't know what to tell you. The guy is a journalist who writes about sports.....he is not an expert at anything sports related.

I like the guy but he has nothing to teach me from an analysts perspective.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I don't think this is it - they are usually pretty straight shooting.

But - they could be laying the Buium and Parekh seeds, with the Dickinson dinner, to amplify trade down efforts if they scare teams enough into thinking they may just take a defenseman they covet.

Which is exactly what I said the other day

 

[Kents polished head]

It is the truth....if you consider that to be harsh I don't know what to tell you. The guy is a journalist who writes about sports.....he is not an expert at anything sports related.

I like the guy but he has nothing to teach me from an analysts perspective.

The expression "ne pas se prendre pour un seven up flat" has been invented for you.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

This is ridiculous.

There's no world in which Guhle is a first pairing D on a non-lottery team.

This absolutely is ridiculous.....

I said that he looks very much like a FUTURE top pairing dman. Do you understand that 22 is extremely young for an NHL dman???