Gary Nylund
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Isn't it obvious that the more recent seasons are, the more weight they carry?
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57 Years No Cup
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If he had consecutive seasons where he had no injuries I might agree with you. But the trend is he continues to get injured. And you know what could be worse? The wrist injury could be a chronic condition that will never be right, which lowers Matthews' value as a player immensely.
Gary Nylund
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Besides McDavid….he is 2nd biggest NHL star in the league. He is arguably the 2nd best player in the league (not this year). He is a rocket richard, hart, ted lindsay winner and put up Leaf records. The board would never even let management to trade him.
Gary Nylund
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If you say so. I don't know anything about "the board" but if they're going to tie managements hands like that, that sucks big time for us fans.
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He was trending to be but I don't think that's the case any more.
I think most see him as the 2nd best player on the Leafs, currently.
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We already know the big 3 are greedy and all about themselves and will not take a penny less than what they think they are worth.
Matthews 14 mil,and will test FA to see if he can get more and high odds he signs elsewhere.
Nylander 10 mil,and will test FA to see if he can more and if so gone. 50/50 he stays.
Marner 12.5 mil will test FA and may be the best odds to stay if we still want him if the above 2 are already gone.
With NTC's kicking in with a year left on contracts I don't see any signing before reaching FA and none will be traded before the NTC's kick in even if Leafs bomb again in the playoffs.
Matthews 14 mil,and will test FA to see if he can get more and high odds he signs elsewhere.
Nylander 10 mil,and will test FA to see if he can more and if so gone. 50/50 he stays.
Marner 12.5 mil will test FA and may be the best odds to stay if we still want him if the above 2 are already gone.
With NTC's kicking in with a year left on contracts I don't see any signing before reaching FA and none will be traded before the NTC's kick in even if Leafs bomb again in the playoffs.
57 Years No Cup
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You know Gary if I was being totally honest, my personal opinion is that Matthews is no more "injured" than any other player. He's just not mentally tough enough/doesn't care to/has a bad attitude and won't play hard through injuries that other players normally play through.
But that's just me.
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Doesn't seem likely considering he leads the league in blocked shots, and is top 10 in takeaways. My best guess is that there's something wrong with his hand which is preventing him from shooting the puck the way he did last season, and that's why his shooting percentage is at a career low.
Blocking shots and takeaways both require more attitude/effort/commitment than just just taking shots, no?
I would only add that from what I've seen, he's still playing good defence.
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If that's your criteria, I'd suggest you go and take a survey of how many NHL players that have gone the past 2 consecutive seasons without an injury.
In fact, I'll help you: The number of Toronto players that haven't missed a game in the past 2 seasons due to injury (of players with Toronto all of both seasons) - and this season still has 19 games to go? In a quick search I found two.
In any case, it's pretty clear we have wildly different definitions of "injury prone"!
Oh I’d say he is indeed trying, actually pretty silly to think he isn’t. How could he look his teammates in the eye if he wasn’t, they would all hate him and I think he is well liked. If I remember correctly his hand was bad last season as well. He just got insanely hot for 50 games and now he is insanely cold. Just the way it goes.
No worries.
The Leafs need to reserve some cap space for the McDavid contract, anyway.
The Leafs need to reserve some cap space for the McDavid contract, anyway.
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I expect Willie would push for $10M or more and I am trading him if thats the case. I like the guy but he is the 13th highest scoring forward in the league, and much closer to Kaprizov then Pastrnak. Unless he is the Conn Smythe winner he shouldn't be paid more than his actual comps. The Bruins are the Cup favorites with 1 player in the top 20 in scoring, same with NJ and the Rangers. Who will replace his scoring is not a real thing if they have the other two.
Dubas bent over for AM last time around and I kind of expect that won't change. Its not just AM, its all top players expect to get paid as though they will be healthy every year (and won't decline with age). Willie's departure will create the necessary salary space and will send at least a small message to Mitch and Auston that we can and we will is predicated on earning their compensation. So somewhere around $13.5M but under $14M. Even Matthews has to see that managing 1 season over 100pts is a little shy of McDavid territory.
Dubas bent over for AM last time around and I kind of expect that won't change. Its not just AM, its all top players expect to get paid as though they will be healthy every year (and won't decline with age). Willie's departure will create the necessary salary space and will send at least a small message to Mitch and Auston that we can and we will is predicated on earning their compensation. So somewhere around $13.5M but under $14M. Even Matthews has to see that managing 1 season over 100pts is a little shy of McDavid territory.
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Auston Matthews certainly delivered on that promise last season, but for me it’s gotta be an annual “anything you can do I can do better” type hunger and drive to be the best, constantly chasing McDavid, the obsessive chase for individual and team success.
For whatever reason he hasn’t kept up and has fallen back into the pack of superstars, and the whole “he’s got nothing to prove” chatter from fans is just gross to me. You think Connor McDavid is sick of Art Ross Trophies? You think Leon Draisaitl ever feels like he as enough cheap PP points? Did the greats of the game stop at one Hart, one Norris, one Vezina?
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I don’t know, but if Matthews demands 15, I will personally order him an Uber to Arizona.
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Tavares 4 x 7.5
Marner 8 x 12
Will 6 x 10.5
Matthews I have no idea what LA can pay him but probably 8 x Max
Marner 8 x 12
Will 6 x 10.5
Matthews I have no idea what LA can pay him but probably 8 x Max
Larcos_Unal
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Tavares at 7.5 holy shit bro, he can barely skate now imagine in 4 years???
$5m is the most I'd give him and it would be 2 year deals max
Suntouchable13
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Why are people so fast to re-sign a core that hasn't won a thing yet? Wait till the playoffs are over this year. Marner 12 x 8? LOL, for what? for being a p***y during playoff games?
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Marner at 12m x 8yrs is a steal compared to someone wanting to give JT 7.5m x 4yrs , lol .
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This begs the question why not the second best again this year. He isn’t even 2nd best in the team. He is tied with Willy for 3/4
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You need a team willing and capable of signing Matthews to a 15 million deal, so there has to be some agreement he is willing to sign there.
Unless you are dealing him prior to this playoffs to another contender while retaining the cap.
I can't imagine any deal that makes sense from a buyer's perspective.
Even from Matthew's perspective, if he wants out and 15 million, why bleed your new team from assets too if you can sign as UFA...
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Menzinger
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It's a corporate ownership situation. They are absolutely prioritizing star talent for marketing and sales povs. Theyll make extending him in some form a priority for whomever is GM.
Just like they'll back a dump truck of money into McDavids driveway if he ever flirts with free agency
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Stephen
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There's a strong hockey and business case for continuing with Matthews, Marner and Nylander since they're in their mid 20s only and will likely be in their primes for another long term contract. Life hasn't been perfect with them, but it was also very bleak before they showed up. We don't need to throw everything out even though they're a frustrating group. Tavares is aging out and isn't the best stylistic fit for a self described high skill team. So I could see a revamped Big 4 with another big ticket in that spot as 2025-26.
This 15m stuff is not happening if the Leafs don't win the Cup. If they don't make it out of the first round I would be comfortable telling him to take the same amount of money or move on.
