Next Projected contracts for Nylander and Matthews after 2024

[LeafGrief]

Matthews will depend on next year. He's probably looking at 12-13m if he pops off. The Hart will guarantee a raise for him, but it won't be much unless he is a top5 player in the league again next year, with considerable playoff success to boot.

Nylander is going to get between 9 and 10, which is why we should look to trade him this summer and get a massive haul. I am done with having 3x 10m players on the team, it forces us to bleed too much quality depth every single summer. If we re-sign Willy, it's just going to mean a year of gutting the team yet again while we wait for JT's contract to end.

The goal of the Leafs isn't to one and done our way into a cup. Our 3 biggest stars are 25 and 26 years old. I hope that the team is able to come up with a vision of how to be sustainable contenders over their next contracts. Trade one, build around two, keep this disgustingly good defense we have, find a goalie, and use the futures of a Nylander (or Marner) trade to support the team with quality youngsters. ELC's and RFA's are the best contracts in the league.

 

[thewave]

Matthews will depend on next year. He's probably looking at 12-13m if he pops off. The Hart will guarantee a raise for him, but it won't be much unless he is a top5 player in the league again next year, with considerable playoff success to boot.

Nylander is going to get between 9 and 10, which is why we should look to trade him this summer and get a massive haul. I am done with having 3x 10m players on the team, it forces us to bleed too much quality depth every single summer. If we re-sign Willy, it's just going to mean a year of gutting the team yet again while we wait for JT's contract to end.

The goal of the Leafs isn't to one and done our way into a cup. Our 3 biggest stars are 25 and 26 years old. I hope that the team is able to come up with a vision of how to be sustainable contenders over their next contracts. Trade one, build around two, keep this disgustingly good defense we have, find a goalie, and use the futures of a Nylander (or Marner) trade to support the team with quality youngsters. ELC's and RFA's are the best contracts in the league.

He isn't worth his current pay the way he is going this year.

 

[LeafGrief]

He isn't worth his current pay the way he is going this year.

Hockey player has bad year, wow. 40g ppg #1C isn't going to get him a big ol' raise, but I have also watched enough Auston Matthews over the last half decade to believe that he's going to bounce back. You think he's going to suck in a contract year?

 

[thewave]

Hockey player has bad year, wow. 40g ppg #1C isn't going to get him a big ol' raise, but I have also watched enough Auston Matthews over the last half decade to believe that he's going to bounce back. You think he's going to suck in a contract year?

No I don't. I think he is going to do amazing under the safety of his NTC and bleed us for every damn cent he can get. He is coasting, there is no 12m+ dollar drive to be found. I don't want to hear nagging injury because if this is one of the years to win, he should have been healing for the PO run.

I don't like coasters.

 

[Leafs87]

He was trending to be but I don't think that's the case any more.
I think most see him as the 2nd best player on the Leafs, currently.

I’d were talking currently he’s 3rd best. Even then with the way the seasons gone, I bet a few take Tavares over him.

Again this is if we’re talking currentlyn

 

[ACC1224]

Matthews will depend on next year. He's probably looking at 12-13m if he pops off. The Hart will guarantee a raise for him, but it won't be much unless he is a top5 player in the league again next year, with considerable playoff success to boot.

Nylander is going to get between 9 and 10, which is why we should look to trade him this summer and get a massive haul. I am done with having 3x 10m players on the team, it forces us to bleed too much quality depth every single summer. If we re-sign Willy, it's just going to mean a year of gutting the team yet again while we wait for JT's contract to end.

The goal of the Leafs isn't to one and done our way into a cup. Our 3 biggest stars are 25 and 26 years old. I hope that the team is able to come up with a vision of how to be sustainable contenders over their next contracts. Trade one, build around two, keep this disgustingly good defense we have, find a goalie, and use the futures of a Nylander (or Marner) trade to support the team with quality youngsters. ELC's and RFA's are the best contracts in the league.

You don't believe they will re-sign him this summer?

 

[LeafGrief]

You don't believe they will re-sign him this summer?

If they do, I'll be happy. Matthews might want to play out the final year to get some better results though, and I'll be fine with that as well. Perhaps we see him sign at the deadline next year like Pastrnak just did. Don't really care either way, though I'm sure the media and boards will be in overdrive the minute he's eligible for an extension.

 

[ACC1224]

If they do, I'll be happy. Matthews might want to play out the final year to get some better results though, and I'll be fine with that as well. Perhaps we see him sign at the deadline next year like Pastrnak just did. Don't really care either way, though I'm sure the media and boards will be in overdrive the minute he's eligible for an extension.

That's my thinking. I can't see the player nor the Team wanting the distraction all season.

For Matthews, having a better year won't really earn him significant more money. I don't see why he would bother hoping to earn more.

 

[Confucius]

Won’t be able to easily move anybody after July 1st, they all have no movement clauses after. Oh my we could easily be the worst team in the league in 2 years. With no 1sts and limited latter round picks coming up as well.

 

[LeafGrief]

That's my thinking. I can't see the player nor the Team wanting the distraction all season.

For Matthews, having a better year won't really earn him significant more money. I don't see why he would bother hoping to earn more.

Sound logic, I hope that Matthews and Dubas (or whoever) think the same way.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Matty will get between 12.6 and 13M for next 8 years
Willy will get 9.5 to 11M for next 8 years
JT will stay on as a LW at NHL min deal for a couple more years
Mitch will get 9.5 to 11M for next 8 years

Overall with rise in CAP Leafs will be in a much better spot to get a 1D if Lily does not take job and 1G if Woll does not take job

 

[ToneDog]

Won’t be able to easily move anybody after July 1st, they all have no movement clauses after. Oh my we could easily be the worst team in the league in 2 years. With no 1sts and limited latter round picks coming up as well.

Gotta hope they do a Matthew Tkachuk if they do not want to win here. The way I look at it, the Leafs gave them what all 3 wanted in spades. For what the 3 claimed they were they failed to deliver a playoff series win so far, let alone a SC.

Sign a deal that shows you value winning over the all mighty dollar or GTFO.

 

[ToneDog]

Matty will get between 12.6 and 13M for next 8 years
Willy will get 9.5 to 11M for next 8 years
JT will stay on as a LW at NHL min deal for a couple more years
Mitch will get 9.5 to 11M for next 8 years

Overall with rise in CAP Leafs will be in a much better spot to get a 1D if Lily does not take job and 1G if Woll does not take job

At those numbers, see ya Willie. The way I see it, 8x8.8 is more than enough. He is no Point, Ranta, or Pasta.

 

[Its not your fault]

Matthews will get 15+ over 8 years.
Nylander 11 over 8 years.

The cap is expected to go up by 10 million over the next 3 years. Either 1mil 2023, 4.5 mil 2024 4.5 mil 2025. There is talk the NHL may change it to 3mil, 3 mil, and 4mil. look at the percentage of the salary cap each of them signed their last contracts at. the cap is expected to go up 12% the next 3 years. Their agents also know this.
At the end of the day the Leafs timed several contracts to end the same year as Matthews and Willy. They also acquired Murray's contract to have that 4.6 mil to end at the same time as well. They will have lots of cap space to sign both.
Better question is who will the Leafs sign after this season. O'Reilly or Bunting? They have the money for one not both.

If Bunting has hit hid ceiling best to find the next.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Hard to say how this will play out. We've banked on this core for years and they have delivered nothing in the postseason. If that cycle repeats itself again this spring I see no reason not to seriously consider substantial changes to the core. If the band stays together then playoff success or lack thereof has to be factored into the negotiations.
If management does want to carry on as is and they stumble again this spring I wouldn't want to see anything over 12.5 and 8.8-9.1 respectively.
My personal preference if they're 1 and done again is to move on. I do love watching the skill of the current roster but the big prize basically remains nowhere in sight.
I want the big prize.

 

[Arzak]

14x5 for AM
12.5x5 for MM
10x6 for WN

Make it x 8 years.
This time around players will prefer the term.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

At those numbers, see ya Willie. The way I see it, 8x8.8 is more than enough. He is no Point, Ranta, or Pasta.

Willy has got every single hockey tool - SPEED, STICKHANDLING, PASSING, SHOOTING - at or near top of league in each area .. Matty next closest but he lacks Willy's speed .. Mitch can't motor with either or shoot with either but his stickhandling and passing are far better .. NONE of them have physical edge to their games which is really what we lack as a core

 

[Magic Man]

8.5M - 9M per for 8 years for Willy
12M per for 8 years for Mitch
12.5M - 13M per for 8 years for Matthews
6M per for 2 years for JT

Willy up 1.5-2M+, Marner for a 1M+ increase, Matthews with a 1-1.5M increase. JT drops 5M per. Everything works out the same. But, everyone is locked in long-term this time.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Matthews will depend on next year. He's probably looking at 12-13m if he pops off. The Hart will guarantee a raise for him, but it won't be much unless he is a top5 player in the league again next year, with considerable playoff success to boot.

Nylander is going to get between 9 and 10, which is why we should look to trade him this summer and get a massive haul. I am done with having 3x 10m players on the team, it forces us to bleed too much quality depth every single summer. If we re-sign Willy, it's just going to mean a year of gutting the team yet again while we wait for JT's contract to end.

The goal of the Leafs isn't to one and done our way into a cup. Our 3 biggest stars are 25 and 26 years old. I hope that the team is able to come up with a vision of how to be sustainable contenders over their next contracts. Trade one, build around two, keep this disgustingly good defense we have, find a goalie, and use the futures of a Nylander (or Marner) trade to support the team with quality youngsters. ELC's and RFA's are the best contracts in the league.

If we don't go deep in the playoffs, then this.

8.5M - 9M per for 8 years for Willy
12M per for 8 years for Mitch
12.5M - 13M per for 8 years for Matthews
6M per for 2 years for JT

Willy up 1.5-2M+, Marner for a 1M+ increase, Matthews with a 1-1.5M increase. JT drops 5M per. Everything works out the same. But, everyone is locked in long-term this time.

And if we do go deep, than this. That's assuming these numbers will suffice, if they want more, well then it's gonna be tough.

Either way, I guess we'll find out where the priorities lie for these guys.

 

[RunItBackAgain]

Make it x 8 years.
This time around players will prefer the term.

Maybe. I can see them wanting ANOTHER fat contract after this one and they likely wont get that at age 35.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Trade both and retool.
Sign O'Reilly to a long term (4-5yr)
Start next season with Tavares-OReilly-Marner as the top line to bridge the retool.

oreill and tavares
these guys will have speed issues in a few weeks

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Hockey player has bad year, wow. 40g ppg #1C isn't going to get him a big ol' raise, but I have also watched enough Auston Matthews over the last half decade to believe that he's going to bounce back. You think he's going to suck in a contract year?

He shouldn't be around next year. Dubas screwed it up. You can't let him hold you hostage when he has zero playoff success.

Keep Marner. Keep Nylander. Both can drive a line. Matthews is now a trigger man without a trigger, dependent on others to feed him. He ain't worth the money.

 

[sxvnert]

Cant lock in the entire core past 30 at a higher cap without winning a single round (or the cup). The next rebuild needs to start taking place if it doesn't work out this year.

 

[Atomos2]

Nylander is getting at least 10 for sure. If not from us than from someone else. Matthews...probably 13 x 5 or 14 x 8.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

At those numbers, see ya Willie. The way I see it, 8x8.8 is more than enough. He is no Point, Ranta, or Pasta.

What he gets will be based on the salary cap. For example, Rantanen signed his contract 4 yrs ago when the cap was 81M. The cap is projected to be around 92M by the time Willy signs his next contract. Rantanen's current AAV is what I would expect will be the floor of what we could expect Willy to get.

I highly doubt he would get what Pasta got. I could see him getting somewhere around 10 -10.5M.