OT: New Owner! New Name? New Season? New Everything!!! — Oh, and New Thread. All things Washington NFL FootBall (beat it, Dan-Bag!!)

[CapitalsCupReality]

Love seeing this…F the Eagles….

 

[Ajax1995]

As an aside…having the game on in the background, I don’t recall hearing young’s name mentioned once.

I watched the whole thing, Young did next to nothing. Frankly the 49ers’ D line was handled fairly easily by the Eagles’ O line all game. Hurts had all day to throw all game long but the 9ers’ secondary played really well.

After the 1st quarter the 9ers’ offense was unstoppable and the biggest reason they won so handily, IMO.

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

If we end up 3rd I find it hard to believe a new front office and new owner can resist taking their new franchise changing QB. Drake Maye might follow Howell again lol

It’ll be interesting for sure. Take a QB, take BPA, or hopefully fleece an organization (like the Bears did the Panthers last year) to stockpile assets; three options each with their pros and cons.

The only thing that matters now is to keep losing, which seems like a fairly safe bet.

 

[g00n]

Love seeing this…F the Eagles….

I have to admit I'm a bit shocked at how badly they were beaten at home.

Their defense really shit the bed. They've been so used to controlling the run all season they just couldn't handle the uncertainty caused by CMC which rippled through the secondary. 9er WRs were running wild all over the place.

In other weird news, even though the Browns lost it's pretty clear Joe Flacco can still hum it and run an offense. If not for a big play by Njoku called back for stepping out of bounds that INT at the end might not have happened or mattered.

And the Rams are hard to figure out. They looked like absolute dogshit early on but have been steadily improving. I guess Stafford and Cupp are slowly getting their game legs back and that's cascading through the organization or something.

WRT KC @ GB tonight, I'm expecting the veteran QB to prevail and the KC defense to show up. People are probably looking at cold Lambeau Field and thinking it's a Packer paradise but I don't think KC is going to be affected much by it.

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

I watched the whole thing, Young did next to nothing. Frankly the 49ers’ D line was handled fairly easily by the Eagles’ O line all game. Hurts had all day to throw all game long but the 9ers’ secondary played really well.

After the 1st quarter the 9ers’ offense was unstoppable and the biggest reason they won so handily, IMO.

Kyle’s offense is almost unstoppable when he has everyone healthy. People shit on Purdy as being a “system QB” but he’s a perfect fit for what they do and it’s easy to see why Kyle like Cousins so much — Kirk is Purdy but with a better arm. They’re going to be tough to stop if they stay healthy.

 

[John Price]

Philly fans are so fairweather. We would gladly take Hurts from you man.

 

[John Price]

If we end up 3rd I find it hard to believe a new front office and new owner can resist taking their new franchise changing QB. Drake Maye might follow Howell again lol

trade down for more picks

f*** it

or if Alt is available just take him

 

[HTFN]

Firing RR is inevitable…stop letting him taint these players….

Again, never said this was a quick fix…you like to suggest things that people are thinking and miss quite a bit.

Coming into a busted situation without room for a real fresh start taints the coach. Game plan has to be simple to get everyone on the same page, which makes the coach seem simple, and if everyone doesn’t get around it right away and gel then some of the losing gets put on the guy who likely can’t even use his chosen playbook.

That works in hockey because getting simple and on the same page can win you games, that’s the structure of the game. It’s not really the same with NFL coaching, “get it in deep and go to work” doesn’t get you anywhere.

 

[HTFN]

Maybe this goes in the Movies thread instead but I've been catching up with the new Hard Knocks release on the Dolphins and man... football players need to learn how to go down and get evaluated when they know something isn't right.

Hill tries to push through a hand thing and gets popped in it again later and yeah, after a splint he comes back, but why risk compounding damage? You have four really important limbs as a wide receiver, losing a hand is not advised. Then Phillips comes up clearly uncomfortable, stays for the next play, and blows his Achilles instead of maybe a strain or something more easily rehabbed with time off...

Just... if you know your body and you are even half worried... go down, get the trainer, take a f***ing minute, get a sub, whatever. Now that we're in the era of 4th down math and percentages, them subbing for two minutes to check you out is a lot less of an overall problem than you exploding on the field and having that sub take your spot for the season.

 

[RedRocking]

Commies sit at 4OA currently and are only a game behind the Cards for 3OA. The Cards and Bears play each other in two weeks which will be interesting to watch.

It’s not out of the picture that they pick 3OA. This could end up being a really successful season yet!

If we end up 3rd I find it hard to believe a new front office and new owner can resist taking their new franchise changing QB. Drake Maye might follow Howell again lol

Yea, I imagine everything will be on the table this offseason. It would be kinda nuts (imho) if they move on from Howell, but it wouldn’t necessarily surprise me.

The Bears, Pats, and even the Cards (if Murray stinks enough that they are picking before us) should be looking to take a QB, so would be nice if we aren’t and can take a top guy at another position.

My dream scenario, if we get 3OA, is Marvin Harrison, Jr. I mean, he’s basically his dad, but is 6’4”. Get Howell that generational talent he can grow with like: Hurts to AJ Brown, Burrow to Chase, or Tua to Waddle, etc…

Otherwise, one of the tackles, Alt or Fashanu would be great.

 

[kicksavedave]

It’ll be interesting for sure. Take a QB, take BPA, or hopefully fleece an organization (like the Bears did the Panthers last year) to stockpile assets; three options each with their pros and cons.

The only thing that matters now is to keep losing, which seems like a fairly safe bet.

If they do decide to take a QB at the top of the draft, trading Howell would also make sense, and he should fetch something decent in return. Lots of big decisions for the new FO, lets hope they're clairvoyant AF.

 

[kicksavedave]

Firing RR is inevitable…stop letting him taint these players….

Again, never said this was a quick fix…you like to suggest things that people are thinking and miss quite a bit.

Your own words paint the picture. "Put up or shut up" in response to JH telling fans to be patient, suggests you don't agree with his approach. Wanting RR gone in week 12-14 instead of after week 17 suggests impatience as well. There's no magical balm to be found firing the HC so late but not after the season ends... certainly no big "turnaround" coming as a result.

Any players who are susceptible to being "tainted" by RR, really shouldn't be part of the future anyway. There's maybe 3-5 players on this roster who's jobs should not be in question. Possibly fewer.

There is a complete rebuild coming. Top to bottom. Its going to require hiring absolutely rock star FO staff and then brilliant coaches, and give them time to turn this 25 year old disaster around. A few more weeks of RR won't be a difference maker in our future. A higher draft pick might.

 

[John Price]

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Coming into a busted situation without room for a real fresh start taints the coach. Game plan has to be simple to get everyone on the same page, which makes the coach seem simple, and if everyone doesn’t get around it right away and gel then some of the losing gets put on the guy who likely can’t even use his chosen playbook.

That works in hockey because getting simple and on the same page can win you games, that’s the structure of the game. It’s not really the same with NFL coaching, “get it in deep and go to work” doesn’t get you anywhere.

I’m not saying hire a new coach now…but I believe RR is damaging these guys right now…they’re less and less competitive each game.

Your own words paint the picture. "Put up or shut up" in response to JH telling fans to be patient, suggests you don't agree with his approach. Wanting RR gone in week 12-14 instead of after week 17 suggests impatience as well. There's no magical balm to be found firing the HC so late but not after the season ends... certainly no big "turnaround" coming as a result.

Any players who are susceptible to being "tainted" by RR, really shouldn't be part of the future anyway. There's maybe 3-5 players on this roster who's jobs should not be in question. Possibly fewer.

There is a complete rebuild coming. Top to bottom. Its going to require hiring absolutely rock star FO staff and then brilliant coaches, and give them time to turn this 25 year old disaster around. A few more weeks of RR won't be a difference maker in our future. A higher draft pick might.

Yeah no. You’re ASSuming. Lovable cancer survivor RR sure has some of you all in his back pocket. And I totally disagree a “complete rebuild” is coming. They’re not burning it down, they’re replacing management/coaching staff.

 

[bacchist]

We should be treating the remaining games as pre-season and giving some practice squad guys a chance to show their stuff.

Hard to pass on Harrison, but I'd still be tempted to take Fashanu at 3OA. Home town kid, seems like a solid human being. Volunteers to feed the homeless and earns academic honors. In terms of culture, he'd be a great leader on the line.

 

[John Price]

 

[kicksavedave]

And I totally disagree a “complete rebuild” is coming. They’re not burning it down, they’re replacing management/coaching staff.

Who on this current roster has genuinely demonstrated they are part of a winning future? I see 5-6 guys maybe. The rest are all JAG's, nothing special, zero WAR type players. Allen, Payne, Curl, Terry and Howell are about the only ones who cannot be upgraded relatively easily by a competent front office. Coaching isn't the only problem with this team.

They just traded away two of they better players for draft picks. That smells of rebuilding, and that was when the team quit on the coaches.

 

[g00n]

Is the current team willing to sell out on the field for RR every game? If so then keep him until the end of the season. Nobody is going to step in and work some magic X and O trick.

If they're phoning it in then no need for him to stick around.

 

[kicksavedave]

I'd probably vomit and stop watching entirely if they took Daniels that high. 9/10 of his highlights are just scrambles.

 

[RedRocking]

Thanks, I hate it.

No way the Bears pass on Maye or Williams if that Panthers pick is top 2. Can’t imagine them picking up Fields’ 5th year option @ roughly 23M, if they can start the clock over with one of those two guys.

 

[Roric]

Guess i'm in the minority. If we're going QB i would love to get daniels

 

[ChaosLord]

Just one last comment on the Eagles / 9ers, Philly weren;t playing with a full deck
ie. no TE Dallas Goedert. Those two teams, when at full strength, are remarkably even, and play the same kind of game: their dominant offenses play a ball control kind of game, long, punishing drives that result in points and that keep your defense fresh and their offense rusty. But the Eagles can't quite do that without Goedert in the line-up. So I'm not as surprised by some of you by the result. If the Eagles can get healthy in time for the playoff rematch, it should be a much more competitive contest.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Is the current team willing to sell out on the field for RR every game? If so then keep him until the end of the season. Nobody is going to step in and work some magic X and O trick.

If they're phoning it in then no need for him to stick around.

They’ve given up 32, 45, 45…..seems clear to me they are….

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Who on this current roster has genuinely demonstrated they are part of a winning future? I see 5-6 guys maybe. The rest are all JAG's, nothing special, zero WAR type players. Allen, Payne, Curl, Terry and Howell are about the only ones who cannot be upgraded relatively easily by a competent front office. Coaching isn't the only problem with this team.

They just traded away two of they better players for draft picks. That smells of rebuilding, and that was when the team quit on the coaches.

Funny, most of the guys I was thinking of….

This team could have made the playoffs with good coaching….but hey if you think they’re burning it to the ground….we can disagree….we will see.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

If they do decide to take a QB at the top of the draft, trading Howell would also make sense, and he should fetch something decent in return. Lots of big decisions for the new FO, lets hope they're clairvoyant AF.

IF they love one of the QBs that falls to them, I’d play Sam next year, develop the next guy, then move Sam after the following season if the young guy is developing as hoped.

I’m torn….like Sam, but I could be swayed and he might return a nice bounty in another year.