Malkinstheman
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And then there are other backup goalies who will…that’s the thing getting wedded to backups or bottom six players…they’re not consistent…we could pick up another backup who could outshine Ned next seasonThe only fault I find with this reasoning is that what Ned wants also factors in here. He might not have been willing to accept a one year deal.
Murray was an exception; 40 AHL games, 1.58 and 0.941 before coming to the big club. Blomqvist 45 games last year, 2.16 and 0.921. The latter is still pretty impressive, but I can't imagine this team giving JB much of a shot next season unless there are injuries or the season absolutely goes down the shitter.When is the last time a team started a rookie with one year NA pro experience in an NHL tandem? There was never a chance Blomquist was starting up here.
Not saying it’s right or wrong, but NHL teams treat goalie prospects like they’re fragile ancient Egyptian artifacts. Nothing like wasting 6 years to develop a guy then learning he sucks.
Murray also happened due to Neal concussing MAF in the last game of the season. He got his chance and ran with it, but I don’t think it would have surprised anyone if they would have let him marinate another year had that not happened.Murray was an exception; 40 AHL games, 1.58 and 0.941 before coming to the big club. Blomqvist 45 games last year, 2.16 and 0.921. The latter is still pretty impressive, but I can't imagine this team giving JB much of a shot next season unless there are injuries or the season absolutely goes down the shitter.
2nd year is likely the only reason Ned signed and didn’t test the market.I think it's more the "for two years" part than just re-signing Nedjelkovic.
Might be a sign and trade
I'm probably going to touch myself to the thought of that tonight.
It's Yohe. You just gotta' get with the hate and hyperbole in these parts.I’m not one to defend Yohe but I mean, if they do trade Jarry, what he said is correct.
Strange to think we're doing luxury signings now? I think this is insurance in case we can sucker someone into taking Jars.Great signing! Though I wouldn’t want Ned as our 1A.
Jarry is likely staying until Blomqvist is ready. Another year? Probably.
There is no cap amount for any pairing of goaltenders that is great for this team. This system isn't designed to help goalies in the least and almost all have failed the last 7 seasons. Ned had been absolute mediocre as shit and morons, absolute f***ing morons here, think he's the better goalie which tells you all you need to know for how stupid most of this fan base has truly become. We're talking peak ignorant twats during the Crosby first few years of bandwagon brain dead idiocy here.Hey at least we are paying 8 million for a goalie tandem that isn't great.
To be honest I prefer Ned over Jarry not because of performance but because I have a deep seated dislike of TJ on a personal level. I hate his face, his attitude, everything about him. He is the better goalie than Ned, although that's like saying that piss smells less bad than shit.There is no cap amount for any pairing of goaltenders that is great for this team. This system isn't designed to help goalies in the least and almost all have failed the last 7 seasons. Ned had been absolute mediocre as shit and morons, absolute f***ing morons here, think he's the better goalie which tells you all you need to know for how stupid most of this fan base has truly become. We're talking peak ignorant twats during the Crosby first few years of bandwagon brain dead idiocy here.
Every bit of info out there shows the real issue and that Ned wasn't better and it's not the narrative anyone wants to push because the truth isn't as fun on a message board of moronic ideas all the while knowing the real issues to talk about.
The moment Ned took over most of the starts from March 16th, the Pens were absolutely shit defensively and allowed almost an extra goal per game, the difference was going 2.85 gf/g to 4.0 gf/g.
"We need Ned instead of Jarry."
No, your parents should have worn a condom.
Ned was .888sv% and Jarry was .886sv%Jarry was a bottom 5 goalie in the NHL after January.
This is the most pathetic shit I've read here and one of the reasons this board has become main board levels of idiocy.To be honest I prefer Ned over Jarry not because of performance but because I have a deep seated dislike of TJ on a personal level. I hate his face, his attitude, everything about him. He is the better goalie than Ned, although that's like saying that piss smells less bad than shit.
If we're gonna get mediocre goalie results anyways we might as well pay less to get them and get rid of TJ's shit contract.
Is this what it sounds like when I defend Sullivan?Ned was .888sv% and Jarry was .886sv%
The difference here, you pillock, is Jarry was struggling in that stretch while Nedeljkovic was giving the best he had. You're too daft to understand this so let's hope Jarry is dealt and we can all see Sullivan and his putrid system continue to ruin other goalies and see if Jarry in a different system, is the goalie we thought he was - goes either way there for those that always hoped he failed vs the ones that knew he could be good on a team that manages tandems better.
Personally I was hoping LA would deal for him, but they made the idiotic deal of Dubois for Kuemper. I would have loved to see Dubois come to the Pens and immediately ask to be dealt after Sullivan tried to adjust his game.
This is the most pathetic shit I've read here and one of the reasons this board has become main board levels of idiocy.
Sullivan is the problem for so many facets to this team, you should seek professional help if you're defending Sullivan and blaming the players.Is this what it sounds like when I defend Sullivan?
Because if so, I have some reevaluating to do.
Who is gonna tell HoG that the Ned story is BS and we floated it to smoke him out of hiding?Is this what it sounds like when I defend Sullivan?
Because if so, I have some reevaluating to do.
He's a choker whose play consistently goes into the toilet down the stretch. He completely blew it the one playoff series he did get. Can't stay healthy either so between that and the consistently cratering March/April play I'd rather send his ass anywhere else.This is the most pathetic shit I've read here and one of the reasons this board has become main board levels of idiocy.
You'll be shocked to know how many goalies that have won the cup have had similar situations as Jarry.He's a choker whose play consistently goes into the toilet down the stretch. He completely blew it the one playoff series he did get. Can't stay healthy either so between that and the consistently cratering March/April play I'd rather send his ass anywhere else.
I don't recall this and you might be reading more into that look he gave Malkin if anything since this is the first time I am hearing this. If he's mid af, Ned is incredibly subpar af.And he completely lost me when he was staring daggers at Malkin after Malkin accidentally tipped a puck in on him. Dude already sucks shit and shouldn't be staring daggers at anyone. He's mid af.
Never once heard him say "yeah I had a bad game" in post game comments either. It's always "oh the team didn't play well enough". He's like Brooks Orpik with that shit. Always someone else's fault that the team is bad.
As for him being better when he goes elsewhere, I'll believe it when I see it. I remember the smug posting about Kapanen being good in St. Louis after he shot 30% for a few months and now he's right back to being the same shitty player he was here.
“You play the game to win,” Jarry said at PPG Paints Arena following the contest. “I don’t think I’ve been giving the guys enough of a chance to win every night.”
“I need to be better,” Jarry said bluntly. “That’s the bottom line. The guys need a save there at the end or one of the other (goals).
“I don’t think I’ve been giving the guys enough of a chance to win every night.”
Ned is fine when you play him like a proper back up, which Sullivan did at first, but then he rode Tristan Jarry into the ground because I mean, if you're Mike Sullivan and you are trying not to repeat the previous season, you'll ride your top goalie as hard as you can before the wheels fall off and it did.Idk, dont love this deal. Ned was good during the first half of the season but dropped off quite a bit with heavier minutes. Goaltending in FA is a barren wasteland though so meh
Jarry wasn't "the" issue in that series, but he certainly was one. His negative 7.9 goals saved above expected was the worst of any goalie that playoffs. His expected goals against that series was 13 and he gave up a whopping 21 goals against. Pretty bad.You'll be shocked to know how many goalies that have won the cup have had similar situations as Jarry.
Btw, did you mean the playoff series he tanked in which...
Sidney Crosby in 6 games had 1+1, same for Guentzel. Jeff Carter led the team with 4 goals, no one else on that roster had more than 2 goals and the 2 other players that scored more than 1 goal was Zucker and Rust.
Jarry wasn't the issue in that series, mate. You just manifested the issues into just Jarry.
I don't have a problem with Jarry's work in 2021-22 playoffs. He was hurt. He tried his best when he came in, but the team couldn't manage anything and the Rangers were allowed to literally cheat and rip a dude's helmet off and score without the whistle being blown. Pens also had a 3-2 lead and spicy pork or no spicy pork they should have been able to close that out at home. But they blew it. Not TJ's fault in that case though.What's the other issue here?
Let's go back to 2021-22 when he plays his first true #1 workload as a starter: He put up 34-18-6 as a record, 2.42GAA and a .919sv% (following year he had that core injury that apparently was a problem for most of the season and was still played 47 games). First that playoffs, Casey DeShit also got hurt in that playoff year and we had Spicy Pork as the only option until the final game where Jarry, still injured from his broken foot and not 100%, was thrown in and the team still couldn't do shit. Jarry literally broke his f***ing foot in 2021-22 when he could have rebounded from the previous playoffs. He never got that chance because of a freak injury.
Does Jarry need to be better? Sure, 2021-22 he has a broken foot, ruins his redemption for the playoffs. 2022-23, he has an upper body injury that he never really recovered from and it was pretty apparent with his movement, at that point they should have shut him down and played DeShit and Tokarski, they had enough time to trade for a third goalie at that point just to not repeat the previous year. This season? The team was a shit show with awful special teams, 7th season running of awful puck management in a system that just gets exploited consistently each game and bizarre line-up choices throughout the season - another running theme. Goalies are easy to blame, because they get all of the blame or they get very little of the praise, they can have a 40 save effort in a 4-1 win and it'd be "well the team played amazing and the goalie did his thing." But if the team manages the puck piss poorly, its "well the goalie was awful and the team had no chance."
“You play the game to win,” Jarry said at PPG Paints Arena following the contest. “I don’t think I’ve been giving the guys enough of a chance to win every night.”
I'll take the L on this point. I'm surprised you found any such quotes.“I need to be better,” Jarry said bluntly. “That’s the bottom line. The guys need a save there at the end or one of the other (goals).
“I don’t think I’ve been giving the guys enough of a chance to win every night.”
I can't remember the game off hand and I don't feel like combing through all of his starts right now to find it, but there was one where Malkin accidentally deflected a puck in on him and Jarry was just giving him this incredulous look. It really rubbed me the wrong way. It was from this year for sure.I don't recall this and you might be reading more into that look he gave Malkin if anything since this is the first time I am hearing this. If he's mid af, Ned is incredibly subpar af.