Salary Cap: Nazem “Suspension” Kadri – Cap casualty?

kb

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Nothing wrong with him dropping the gloves, but that highlights how the motivation isn't selfish, but the act he chose was stupid.
We aren't having this discussion if he drops the gloves. But knowing that you have been suspended many times for headshots, and not caring about that fact while doing it again is.....well.....both. To me.
 

Daisy Jane

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...that's why it was stupid. The motivation/reasoning is what would make it selfish. Trying to stick up for the team/teammate isn't selfish. How he went about it was simply stupid.

again this might be a guy thing, truly.

but why did Kadri have to stick up for Marleau which was a clean hit. yes - where it was (close to the stanchion) was scary but it was a clean hit. not to mention to be quite honest, I don't buy that he did it for Marleau (or it was 100 percent to defend marleau's honour).

but fine let's split hairs here. he wasn't selfish. he was utterly stupid. (again).
 
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So much overreacting in here. If we had more of what Kadri brings on the team he wouldn't have gotten suspended. I wish more players on the team bleeds blue.

Kadri has 5 suspensions in 7 years.

He’s been suspended with Orr and McLaren on the roster. He’s been suspended without them on the roster.

The common factor?

He gets suspended.
 

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again this might be a guy thing, truly.

but why did Kadri have to stick up for Marleau which was a clean hit. yes - where it was (close to the stanchion) was scary but it was a clean hit. not to mention to be quite honest, I don't buy that he did it for Marleau (or it was 100 percent to defend marleau's honour).

but fine let's split hairs here. he wasn't selfish. he was utterly stupid. (again).

He didn't do it because of the Marleau hit, the Marleau hit was just an excuse to revenge the knee on knee.
 

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again this might be a guy thing, truly.

but why did Kadri have to stick up for Marleau which was a clean hit. yes - where it was (close to the stanchion) was scary but it was a clean hit. not to mention to be quite honest, I don't buy that he did it for Marleau (or it was 100 percent to defend marleau's honour).

but fine let's split hairs here. he wasn't selfish. he was utterly stupid. (again).
Its a hockey thing more than a guy thing IMO. Losing a playoff game, teams being manhandled, noteworthy example of it just happens, so you step in to stand up for the team as much as the player. Stupid execution though, he could have done a number of other things to send the same message. He chose his stick to the head and ends up with a suspension because of it.
 
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NHL is getting faster and faster, kadri has average speed, and is not very well conditioned. I do not see him peeking very long. I hope he is traded while his value is pretty high. Other teams want him for a #2, even “gulp” a #1 center. As a number 3 the leafs are wasting his value... we have bigger holes in the roster to fill.

Of course we should not trade him, unless we get good value back.
 
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I will be a bit sad if Kadri is moved this summer, I like him and don't give a shit about him getting suspensions either
 
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Trouba is most likely a pipe dream. Most likely IMO if Kadri goes is that we get a centre back, if not in that trade then in a separate deal. Whatever, trades are super hard to predict so I'll just wait and see what happens. Best case scenario IMO is that he gets some counselling and that it actually works. And if it does, I hope Babcock makes better use of him next season. Oh yeah, I also hope of course that he doesn't get suspended in the playoffs again. :laugh::laugh:



Really? From the rest of this post it doesn't seem like the ativan has quite kicked in yet.

Thanks Ms Kleo.
 

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He’s no longer a 30G guy. He’s a 16G guy.

He’s also a 6 playoff games played out of 14 kind of guy too.

4.5M is a waste if he doesn’t play.

He’s a good 2C on a team that needs a 2C to get into the playoffs. We have Tavares and Matthews who rotate as our 1/2C.

Time to move on.

YUP.

Lets let the GOAT and Petan play 3C and 4C.

Leafs are going to be instantly better.
 

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YUP.

Lets let the GOAT and Petan play 3C and 4C.

Leafs are going to be instantly better.
They're capable of finding someone better than those guys to take Kadri's spot.

That guy wont be as good as Kadri, but he might actually stay on the ice in the playoffs.
 
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81Leafs50

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So your point is that we need Kadri but we were up 3-2 without him and could have finished them off?

??

Sort of a disconnect there.

I never once said we need Kadri.

BUT where are you going to find a player who can score 30 goals at 4.5M??

Leafs could have won that series without him. They led the series without him.

IF YOU TRADE Kadri, the Leafs will just spend every year looking for a player like him. Its the same perpetual BS this fan base pulls that has the rest of the NHL laughing.

Lets fire babcock and trade Kadri and trade Gardiner and NOT sign Hainsey and trade Zaitsev.

Lets get Dallas Eakins back here. He was very highly touted wasn't he?

ALso we can just let GOAT play 3C and Petan 4C.

Leafs are instantly better.

LOL same dumb shit every year.

I hate this guy he sucks. meanwhile he's scoring 30 goals in the best hockey league in the world playing against the highest competition. BUT the guy sitting at home with ZERO knowledge and sporting athletic ability knows better.

YUP Toronto definitely has the most educated hockey fans in the WORLD.
 

81Leafs50

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They're capable of finding someone better than those guys to take Kadri's spot.

That guy wont be as good as Kadri, but he might actually stay on the ice in the playoffs.

capfriendly says the Leafs have $8,790,301 cap space. They still have to sign Marner, Kapanen, and Johnsson.

Leafs dont have to the money to replace anyone currently signed.
 

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capfriendly says the Leafs have $8,790,301 cap space. They still have to sign Marner, Kapanen, and Johnsson.

Leafs dont have to the money to replace anyone currently signed.


You do know that the team is allowed to trade players right? If you didnt know this my apologies.
 

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capfriendly says the Leafs have $8,790,301 cap space. They still have to sign Marner, Kapanen, and Johnsson.

Leafs dont have to the money to replace anyone currently signed.
Maybe they will after they move Zaitsev and Marleau
 

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Kadri has 5 suspensions in 7 years.

He’s been suspended with Orr and McLaren on the roster. He’s been suspended without them on the roster.

The common factor?

He gets suspended.

If minor suspensions drive you this far up the wall, I can only imagine how injury prone players like Matthews must irk you.
 

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If we're using his 30 goal seasons as a point of reference, then even as the 3C behind Tavares and Matthews, Kadri averaged half a minute less per game and put up similar expected individual goals for figures this year. The issue was the actual shooting percentage, which, if we piece things together, would mean that he was getting looks but wasn't converting. Obviously the Leafs' analytics will have more nuanced information than what is available for public consumption, in particular his shift in the PP role, but it seems to me that he had somewhat of a repeat of his 2015-16 season.

If we were a rebuilding team looking to accumulate draft picks and promising prospects, trading him would make sense, considering the suspensions and where he's at age curve-wise. However, we are a team that is looking to contend and a player with a favorable contract that can move up the lineup is a premium in the salary cap world. Even if we do trade him to address a weakness, ie the Trouba trade nonsense, the Leafs will still have that gap between Matthews, Tavares and the 3C on the team. Unless Nylander's suddenly gained Babcock's trust (Babcock did like him, Marleau, and Brown in the playoffs) we're going to be spending assets to fill in the 3C position via trade, overpaying a UFA, or going with an unknown from who-knows-where.

It would be nice to have a 3C that can penalty kill with the best of them and who won't be a liability for 15-16 minutes a night but it'll be hard to acquire him for less than 4.5M per year.
 
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Maybe they will after they move Zaitsev and Marleau

Rumor is Islanders are interested in Kadri, I could see the Islanders taking Zaitsev as a dump at even value(not sure if Zaitsev has positive value to be honest) to make it work
 

Gary Nylund

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I never once said we need Kadri.

BUT where are you going to find a player who can score 30 goals at 4.5M??

Leafs could have won that series without him. They led the series without him.

IF YOU TRADE Kadri, the Leafs will just spend every year looking for a player like him. Its the same perpetual BS this fan base pulls that has the rest of the NHL laughing.

So on one hand, you're not blaming Kadri for the loss to Boston as we could have won without him. And on the other hand, you're just freaking out at the very idea of trading him. It's the same perpetual inconsistency that has some of us scratching our heads.

It would be nice to have a 3C that can penalty kill with the best of them and who won't be a liability for 15-16 minutes a night but it'll be hard to acquire him for less than 4.5M per year.

It would also be nice to have a 3C that we can count on to be allowed to play in the playoffs.
 
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BUT where are you going to find a player who can score 30 goals at 4.5M??

Come back to reality.

You have a player who can score 16G at 4.5M.
IF YOU TRADE Kadri, the Leafs will just spend every year looking for a player like him.

Again, come back to reality.

The Leafs have already found AND upgraded on Kadri.

They signed Tavares.

There is $23M in Cs ahead of him. $30M if you count Nylander.

A+ for the rest of the drama and straw man. Dallas Eakins? Bravo.
 
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